Rivals of Aether - Official Thread

[RoA_Zam]

I dont think that would be a good idea., We already have a fire "type" in Zetterburn. However, I do think that the monkey part is a good idea. He could have banana projectiles that bounce or something.

Theres 2 characters to each element. So 2 fire, 2 water, 2 earth, 2 air. That isn't changing.
It's a fire hyena. It's based on smoke and holds a machete.

 

[Cirby64]

For anybody who hasn't seen it yet, here is a picture that Dan posted on his Twitter. It shows the new character's render!

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

For anybody who hasn't seen it yet, here is a picture that Dan posted on his Twitter. It shows the new character's render!

Another character with burn in his name. Also the design doesn't really scream hyena to me.

 

[CaptainCrisb]

I dont think that would be a good idea., We already have a fire "type" in Zetterburn. However, I do think that the monkey part is a good idea. He could have banana projectiles that bounce or something.

inb4 diddy kong 2.0 confirmed (plz nerf)

 

[PoTheDragonSlayer]

Any ETA on Forsburn reveal!? Can't wait to see him yo

 

[arcticfox8]

Hey
If you're a playtesting-person-dude do this
http://strawpoll.me/3799498

 

[Kasado-Bit]

This is a suggestion that was mentioned in the chatroom. Instead of having two jump buttons or two dodge buttons, why not have one of the buttons used for strong attacks? I'm used to pulling of strong attacks with the right analog stick, but not everyone is fine with that. This would at least give people some options as to how they want to do strong attacks while making the tilt attacks a bit more different. If this happens, I think there should also be a strong neutral attack. It'd give one extra move to each character, which is always nice. :D

 

[Puppyfaic]

So, I have an idea. Something to help differentiate RoA from Smash. Right now, it's the same as Smash. You build % and the opponent flies farther when their % is higher. But I feel like there should be something else. I've debated the idea of a Super Meter, but Super Moves tend to be controversial in a Platform Fighter setting. Instead of a Super Meter, why not a sort of Elemental X-Factor?

As you give/take damage, you build meter. When that meter is full, you can enter your Element Boost. During this time, your character reaps benefits from its elemental abilities. For example:
-All of Zetterburn's attacks would burn the enemy, instead of just his special attacks. This would also mean his Smash attacks would always receive the Burn boost.
-Orcane would be able to have 3 puddles out at once, and his Smash attacks would always have their puddle-empowered range and damage, without having to be near a puddle. When teleporting to a puddle, he'll always go to the closest one. Down B would detonate all puddles at once.
-Wrastor would always be under the influence of his Wind Current, without it even being active or being inside it. Having the Wind Current active would further enhance its effects.
-Kragg could gain a large amount of Super Armor(30% or so. Once that damage threshold is reached, he can be flinched and knocked back like normal), and be able to have multiple rocks and pillars out at once.

The above are just ideas of how this empowered form could be implemented, but I think it would add some spice and excitement to the game, as well as help it create its own identity from Smash.

 

[Cirby64]

So, I have an idea. Something to help differentiate RoA from Smash. Right now, it's the same as Smash. You build % and the opponent flies farther when their % is higher. But I feel like there should be something else. I've debated the idea of a Super Meter, but Super Moves tend to be controversial in a Platform Fighter setting. Instead of a Super Meter, why not a sort of Elemental X-Factor?

As you give/take damage, you build meter. When that meter is full, you can enter your Element Boost. During this time, your character reaps benefits from its elemental abilities. For example:
-All of Zetterburn's attacks would burn the enemy, instead of just his special attacks. This would also mean his Smash attacks would always receive the Burn boost.
-Orcane would be able to have 3 puddles out at once, and his Smash attacks would always have their puddle-empowered range and damage, without having to be near a puddle. When teleporting to a puddle, he'll always go to the closest one. Down B would detonate all puddles at once.
-Wrastor would always be under the influence of his Wind Current, without it even being active or being inside it. Having the Wind Current active would further enhance its effects.
-Kragg could gain a large amount of Super Armor(30% or so. Once that damage threshold is reached, he can be flinched and knocked back like normal), and be able to have multiple rocks and pillars out at once.

The above are just ideas of how this empowered form could be implemented, but I think it would add some spice and excitement to the game, as well as help it create its own identity from Smash.

I suggest we wait until release of the game, and then decide whether it's too similar to Smash. I believe Dan has some crazy ideas for characters in the future, so I think it will be different enough through that fact alone.

 

[Supersmash77]

Forsburn looks pretty cool

 

[Burnsy]

I saw it as a Hyena.

You called it! (or did you have behind the scenes info???)

 

[Conradical]

Another character with burn in his name. Also the design doesn't really scream hyena to me.

That looks AMAZING！

 

[RoA_Zam]

Forsburn looks pretty cool

Oh please I know you're holding back ferverish screams of joy for how bad ass it is lmao

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

So, I have an idea. Something to help differentiate RoA from Smash. Right now, it's the same as Smash. You build % and the opponent flies farther when their % is higher. But I feel like there should be something else. I've debated the idea of a Super Meter, but Super Moves tend to be controversial in a Platform Fighter setting. Instead of a Super Meter, why not a sort of Elemental X-Factor?

As you give/take damage, you build meter. When that meter is full, you can enter your Element Boost. During this time, your character reaps benefits from its elemental abilities. For example:
-All of Zetterburn's attacks would burn the enemy, instead of just his special attacks. This would also mean his Smash attacks would always receive the Burn boost.
-Orcane would be able to have 3 puddles out at once, and his Smash attacks would always have their puddle-empowered range and damage, without having to be near a puddle. When teleporting to a puddle, he'll always go to the closest one. Down B would detonate all puddles at once.
-Wrastor would always be under the influence of his Wind Current, without it even being active or being inside it. Having the Wind Current active would further enhance its effects.
-Kragg could gain a large amount of Super Armor(30% or so. Once that damage threshold is reached, he can be flinched and knocked back like normal), and be able to have multiple rocks and pillars out at once.

The above are just ideas of how this empowered form could be implemented, but I think it would add some spice and excitement to the game, as well as help it create its own identity from Smash.

I don't think that they should add gimmicks to the game just so they can be different from Smash. That's what PSAS did, and look how that turned out.

 

[Boss N]

Sorry I haven't been active a lot recently. Too much life, plus it's hard to contribute when most of the stuff about the game has already been said by everyone else (in terms of testing). Also I haven't had much motive to keep coming back to smash boards since most of the online community (outside this group of coarse) has been making me angry/depressed.

Can we all agree as a new community to avoid all the problems the smash community has if this games becomes huge? (Which it will )

But on a less somber note, Foresburn: Like the pun, and super hyped to see him in action, though I REALLY wished he was a lizard then we'ed have Marowak confirmed4 Pokken

 

[JPIII]

OMG I NEED THE PLAYTESTER DEMO. lol IM SO HYPE!! :D

 

[Puppyfaic]

I don't think that they should add gimmicks to the game just so they can be different from Smash. That's what PSAS did, and look how that turned out.

That wasn't PSAS' downfall. PSAS' downfall was its incredibly poor roster, lackluster stages, and the fact that you could only kill with supers.

Besides, the suggestion wasn't ONLY so it'd be different from Smash; it also suits the game's main theme of "elements". It could be plot-related, too. Maybe they're channeling the Aether in the air or something, idk.

 

[Yurya]

You called it! (or did you have behind the scenes info???)

I'm a Playtester..?

But really I had no clue, aside from maybe having a good eye. Looking forward to testing him out. I hope he plays similar to a Sheik/ZSS, but we will see.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

That wasn't PSAS' downfall. PSAS' downfall was its incredibly poor roster, lackluster stages, and the fact that you could only kill with supers.

Besides, the suggestion wasn't ONLY so it'd be different from Smash; it also suits the game's main theme of "elements". It could be plot-related, too. Maybe they're channeling the Aether in the air or something, idk.

You do realize the fact that only killing with supers was the gimmick I was referring too, right? Roster is subjective, but there were plenty who were fine with it, even without a couple of big requests like Crash missing.

 

[TheSqushiestManatee]

You do realize the fact that only killing with supers was the gimmick I was referring too, right? Roster is subjective, but there were plenty who were fine with it, even without a couple of big requests like Crash missing.

The only people that were fine with the roster were few and far between. Lots of people talked about how poor the roster regardless of roster being subjective. Also the gimmick you refer too is much more important to the game it was in as it was the only way to kill while the X-factor discussed which is similar to instinct mode from Killer Instinct, Isn't a massive change to the game as a mechanic that is the only way to win the game.

 

[Puppyfaic]

The only people that were fine with the roster were few and far between. Lots of people talked about how poor the roster regardless of roster being subjective. Also the gimmick you refer too is much more important to the game it was in as it was the only way to kill while the X-factor discussed which is similar to instinct mode from Killer Instinct, Isn't a massive change to the game as a mechanic that is the only way to win the game.

Exactly. This x-factor ish mode isn't REQUIRED to win a match by any means, whereas in PSAS, you NEEDED supers to win. You had no other choice.

 

[Burnsy]

I'm a Playtester..?

But really I had no clue, aside from maybe having a good eye. Looking forward to testing him out. I hope he plays similar to a Sheik/ZSS, but we will see.

well so am I... I meant how did you guess it was a hyena based solely on the sillouette, before it was revealed on Dans twitter

 

[RoA_Zam]

well so am I... I meant how did you guess it was a hyena based solely on the sillouette, before it was revealed on Dans twitter

At least one person had to guess it right. I knew already from just talking to dan about it lmao

 

[4nace]

Hey Guys!

Haven't had time to read through the thread, but we do have a new post to share about our experiences at GDC 2015!
http://rivalsofaether.com/blog/?p=271



We are working right now on a teaser post for Forsburn as well. Expect to see some details this week about his playstyle and his moveset.

Also congrats to those who guessed him to be a Hyena!

Thanks,
Dan Fornace

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Exactly. This x-factor ish mode isn't REQUIRED to win a match by any means, whereas in PSAS, you NEEDED supers to win. You had no other choice.

Just because it's not required for kills doesn't mean it won't have a big impact on the game.

 

[Puppyfaic]

Just because it's not required for kills doesn't mean it won't have a big impact on the game.

That's the point: to have a big impact on the game.

 

[Cirby64]

That's the point: to have a big impact on the game.

But then it becomes less about actual skill, and more about the supers, no?

 

[RoA_Zam]

But then it becomes less about actual skill, and more about the supers, no?

If i could just type "this" without it being considered spam, I would. This is so important though.

 

[TheSqushiestManatee]

But then it becomes less about actual skill, and more about the supers, no?

There is skill in properly utilizing supers.

 

[likiji123]

Hey Guys!

Haven't had time to read through the thread, but we do have a new post to share about our experiences at GDC 2015!
http://rivalsofaether.com/blog/?p=271



We are working right now on a teaser post for Forsburn as well. Expect to see some details this week about his playstyle and his moveset.

Also congrats to those who guessed him to be a Hyena!

Thanks,
Dan Fornace

Love the controller designs
and i cant wait for the forsburn teaser

 

[ZXCV]

You guys did it... You made me make an account just say that this game looks incredible and I am sooo glad to see such a great community following already. I tip my hat to Dan and the dev team I only hope to get in as playtester and above all keep up the good work guys :D I shall continue to live in this thread till the end of time waiting eagerly for the release.

 

[Conradical]

Theres 2 characters to each element. So 2 fire, 2 water, 2 earth, 2 air. That isn't changing.
It's a fire hyena. It's based on smoke and holds a machete.

Oh, I didn't know that... Thanks though.

 

[Boss N]

The only people that were fine with the roster were few and far between. Lots of people talked about how poor the roster regardless of roster being subjective.

I liked the roster to PSASBR

To me Battle Royal didn't FEEL as good as smash bros, also I talked to someone who used to go to tournaments for that game and apparently the community was NASTY. Like the "only talked to you to brag about their skills or talk crap when they lose" kind of bad

 

[RoA_Zam]

You guys did it... You made me make an account just say that this game looks incredible and I am sooo glad to see such a great community following already. I tip my hat to Dan and the dev team I only hope to get in as playtester and above all keep up the good work guys :D I shall continue to live in this thread till the end of time waiting eagerly for the release.

You are a good person sir. We gladly welcome you here. Ask any questions you want and we will try our best to answer them all.

 

[4nace]

Hey Guys!

We are revealing Forsburn today!

Forsburn, the Exiled Flame, is all about deception:
http://rivalsofaether.com/blog/?p=281

Check out our blog post to read more and see some of his gameplay. Don't worry, Forsburn will still be in our third trailer, but today you can get your first look at him.

Thanks,
Dan Fornace

 

[CaptainCrisb]

Hey Guys!

We are revealing Forsburn today!

Forsburn, the Exiled Flame, is all about deception:
http://rivalsofaether.com/blog/?p=281

Check out our blog post to read more and see some of his gameplay. Don't worry, Forsburn will still be in our third trailer, but today you can get your first look at him.

Thanks,
Dan Fornace

Huh, he's brothers with Zetterburn! Cool! But... THE DECOY THOUGH

 

[Yurya]

Hey Guys!

We are revealing Forsburn today!

Forsburn, the Exiled Flame, is all about deception:
http://rivalsofaether.com/blog/?p=281

Check out our blog post to read more and see some of his gameplay. Don't worry, Forsburn will still be in our third trailer, but today you can get your first look at him.

Thanks,
Dan Fornace

Hype!

So can you control the Decoy or is it AI?

Either way he looks to have a ton of depth and I am continued to be impressed with the character designs.

 

[someonetookjacob]

Hype!

So can you control the Decoy or is it AI?

Either way he looks to have a ton of depth and I am continued to be impressed with the character designs.

On r/smashbros Dan responded to this question. He said it was AI that didn't do anything defensive (rolling or countering) just attacked, but that it might change somewhat in future iterations.

He also clarified some stuff about the up-special

"Good point! Didn't have a chance to show that off in the blog. It is a teleport similar to Sheik but the hitbox in on reappearing (so maybe closer to Metaknights Down B). It puts you into fall state and has pretty hefty recovery as well.

The Up Special does synergize with his moveset too. If you teleport into a smoke cloud, you do not reveal your location, do not attack, do not go into fall state and get your double jump back. This means if you have multiple smoke clouds out, you can teleport into one and your opponent won't know where you went:http://gfycat.com/CleanReliableGalapagostortoise

You can even pursue opponents into your own clouds and follow up with an aerial very quickly." -Dan

Which also sounds awesome!

 

[JCOnyx]

His DSpecial has him become a Marth Climbers for a short period of time... my god!

Oh so he can't control it? That's a little better. Seriously, a character with sword (dagger really) disjoints, strong attacks that knock the opponent towards you, and wombo combo abilities sounds more broken than Sheik Climbers lol. Although this character is looking really awesome, I think I found my secondary or possibly even a new main!

 

[dquarius]

Just checking in. Forsburn looks sick but hes not really my type of main but his playstyle looks fun to mess around with.