Rivals of Aether - Official Thread

[SgtFunShinebear]

If a side Special is parried back at you, you take the burn effect that the opponent would. Yes, you take the added knockback from the fire as well as the 5% damage it builds up before it wears off.


Also idk if I mentioned it above but Neutral Special is an amazing move when not oversused. It sets up for combos really well when used from the air, and can shut down a lot of recoveries if you fully charge it by the ledge. It can sometimes be combo'd into itself if spaced properly, then followed up with another Aerial or a Strong attack depending on percent.

Forward tilt is an awesome kill move.

down tilt is nice to approach with from the ground against anyone but Kragg because of its range. and knockback away.

Moves that can be wavelanded out of:

• Back Aerial
• Forward Aerial
• Up Aerial
• Neutral Special
• Up Special (You can cancel this with an Airdodge before you begin to move)

Up Special doesn't have a hitbox until about halfway through the startup animation before you move.
While recovering, Up Special can be airdodged out of (provided you have an air dodge to use) if you want to reposition yourself or need to use it to avoid something like Kragg rock or some other projectile.

As nice as knowing some of these is, for the sake of time and accessibility I probably won't include stuff like wavelanding out of certain moves or specific matchups. I want to introduce people to the characters while still giving them some wiggle room to learn on their own. That's half the fun of a new game, in my opinion ^ ^

 

[Conradical]

@ Boss N @ Conradical @ Yurya Little known fact, but Pikachu is Yellow/Brown, not Yellow black like most people tend to depict lol. I made a Yellow/Brown for all 4 characters:

Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIiZ3vvZ78s

How exactly do you implement this into a game?

 

[Conradical]

Hey Dan!
I was playing o my favourite stage (air armada) and found a glitch. When you short hop on the spring instead of full hopping, you don't get sprung up (pun intended). Thanks for reading!

Edit: I also found out a new tech for recovering with Zetterbun. Here is the video:

 

[Conradical]

How exactly do you implement this into a game?

Oops. How do you delete posts. Mine duplicated...

 

[Conradical]

Hey Dan! I was playing against some CPU's and wondered "Will there ever be a possiblity to play with other people online?" So, you know what I'm asking, will there? Thanks for reading!

 

[arcticfox8]

WHOA dude.
That's a lot of posts.
From now on please edit previous posts if you have more to say.
What you have there is borderline spam.


To answer some of your questions:
The short hop spring thing was intentional.
Online play is something everybody wants but isn't expected until the full game releases if not a little before that for playtesting purposes.
I know there's a way to add colors but I myself don't know how and I'm sure someone else can answer that.

 

[Boasting Toast]

Hey Dan!
I was playing o my favourite stage (air armada) and found a glitch. When you short hop on the spring instead of full hopping, you don't get sprung up (pun intended). Thanks for reading!

Edit: I also found out a new tech for recovering with Zetterbun. Here is the video:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that tech been known for a very long time. And I think the short hop on the spring thing is intentional, so you're able to choose wether you get sprung or not.

 

[Burnsy]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that tech been known for a very long time. And I think the short hop on the spring thing is intentional, so you're able to choose wether you get sprung or not.

Yea, this is definitely an intentional feature of the spring, and I greatly appreciate it. I think it simotaneously makes the spring more interesting and less intrusive.

 

[Conradical]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that tech been known for a very long time. And I think the short hop on the spring thing is intentional, so you're able to choose wether you get sprung or not.

Oh, well thanks for the info anyways!

 

[RoA_Zam]

@ Conradical There's an "Edit" option once you post something. Instead of posting 5+ posts in a row and just spamming a page, it's better to just edit your thoughts all into one or two posts.

Importing textures: http://smashboards.com/threads/rivals-of-aether-official-thread.360443/page-24#post-18444151
(Be sure to actually Read all of it before asking questions that might already be answered in the post)

Air Armada: Being able to short hop without activating the spring is intentional. Not a Glitch.

Zetterburn: Being able to air dodge out of Up Special is something I also found a lot earlier. It was in a gif on the RoA website from an older build of the game. It has use for things other than recovery. And don't forget you can wall jump as well. You have options to mix up how you recover so that you aren't the same and predictable against other human players. Being able to Up Special, Wall jump, Air dodge, Jump, and Up Special again makes Zetterburn's recovery easily the most versatile of any character in the game so far.

This Gif is outdated though because of obvious reasons. The stage is an older version of the revamped Fire Capitol we have now, and Zetterburn's up Special doesn't do damage for the first few frames anymore like it does in this Gif.

 

[ShinyisSilent]

GLITCH: Using Zetterburns neutral special on one of Krugg's blocks makes it disappear rather then it usually breaking.

 

[jhunter_d]

Are playtester applications still being taken? Because I'd love to help out.

 

[ShinyisSilent]

Are playtester applications still being taken? Because I'd love to help out.

Go to the top of the first page you will find out more there.

 

[Cirby64]

Damn, son. I found out about Rivals of Aether like half a year ago, and just found this thread. Hope the player signup is still open, I'm super exited to try this!

 

[Boasting Toast]

GLITCH: Using Zetterburns neutral special on one of Krugg's blocks makes it disappear rather then it usually breaking.

That actually happens with every character. As found by Sanic, pressing neutral special next to Kragg's block with any character makes the character attempt to pick up the block, but since they're not supposed to the block just disappears.

 

[RoA_Zam]

That actually happens with every character. As found by Sanic, pressing neutral special next to Kragg's block with any character makes the character attempt to pick up the block, but since they're not supposed to the block just disappears.

@ ShinyisSilent

Yep. It's funniest with orcane when you're standing next to or on top of the rock.

 

[jhunter_d]

Go to the top of the first page you will find out more there.

I sent an email a good deal ago, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. I guess I have to be patient. Idk though, I'm just so damn hype.

 

[Boss N]

Curious Thought: With a lot of people getting the game early, and so many of us making discoveries on characters and match ups, I wonder if there's going to be a meta before the game is even officially released

(Yeah I know things are going to change between now and the official release and most of you only been playing against computers but still fun to think about )

Also, LETS GET RIVALS INTO APEX NEXT YEAR GUYS!!!

 

[Death By Hugs]

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[RoA_Zam]

So I went over to Xanthus's place and we played RoA for a little while in between SSBM and we didn't get anything useful accomplished other than one absolutely amazing sequence of events that he has a GIF of and that I am going to spam him until he posts on the thread. it's a Wrastor (him) vs Orcane (me) match where we take the concept of mindgames and metagame it even farther.

 

[Xanthus]

Lol @ RoA_Zam talking it up so much. Here are some shenanigans I'm the Wrastor, he's worst-pallete-ever-orcane.

 

[RoA_Zam]

Lol @ RoA_Zam talking it up so much. Here are some shenanigans I'm the Wrastor, he's worst-pallete-ever-orcane.

The worst palette ever made by none other than Xanthus the manthus

 

[Cirby64]

Lol @ RoA_Zam talking it up so much. Here are some shenanigans I'm the Wrastor, he's worst-pallete-ever-orcane.

I haven't got a chance to play yet, sadly. But is that a perfect block that keeps happening?

 

[Yurya]

I haven't got a chance to play yet, sadly. But is that a perfect block that keeps happening?

Kinda, each of those black circles represents a successful parry which is a defensive tool unique to Rivals. Shields are replaced by Parries which act as easier perfect shields (not that perfect shields or Parries are easy) that stun opponents.

 

[4nace]

Sweet gif guys!

Also I really strapped for time right now. Everything is Rivals related and everything is going really well! Unfortunately I haven't even looked at playtester applications since last week. I have over 70 new applicants waiting for me. I have it planned to get to them this week and pick out people who can offer us quality feedback. Unfortunately I have no timeline on if / when you will be asked. Just hang tight. The good news is that everyone added will be on the same build as January playtesters so balance and match-up discussion can continue here.

Thanks!
Dan Fornace

 

[T00nbink]

@ Boss N @ Conradical @ Yurya Little known fact, but Pikachu is Yellow/Brown, not Yellow black like most people tend to depict lol. I made a Yellow/Brown for all 4 characters:

Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIiZ3vvZ78s

I think Kragg and Wrastor especially look awesome!

 

[Boss N]

Lol @ RoA_Zam talking it up so much. Here are some shenanigans I'm the Wrastor, he's worst-pallete-ever-orcane.

Uuummmm you mean BEST palette Orcane? (Besides Banana Orcane of coarse)
On the subject of Parries, how long did it take everyone to break out of the habit of shielding?

 

[Yurya]

Uuummmm you mean BEST palette Orcane? (Besides Banana Orcane of coarse)
On the subject of Parries, how long did it take everyone to break out of the habit of shielding?

The habit of grabbing was worse for me. I still need to get in the habit of Parrying though. I kinda play Rivals with a block-free mentality when it is actually very effective.

 

[Cirby64]

Kinda, each of those black circles represents a successful parry which is a defensive tool unique to Rivals. Shields are replaced by Parries which act as easier perfect shields (not that perfect shields or Parries are easy) that stun opponents.

Oh cool. I actually really like that mechanic.

 

[Beets]

Don't thin me too rude but,

most people I play with are not quite stupid enough that they require a P1 indicator above their heads to remind them which character they chose to play.

This was seriously one of my largest complaints about Brawl, whereas Melee did not have anything of the sort unless you stood still or wore a nametag, and Smash 4 beautifully remedies by having your tag (whether it say "P1" or "MEL") disappear completely when the screen is zoomed in enough (as in, when the characters are all close enough in proximity to each other).

I have not played this game as of this writing, so perhaps you have already addressed this issue, but the GIFs on this forum page (page 28) seem to me clear evidence that they are ever present.

If I turn out to be misinformed I shall edit this entire post to laud this game for being already fifty times finer than Brawl.

 

[Sol_Vent]

Alrighty, with Apex over, I have no more excuse not to get to posting these character recolors. So here they are, my latest themes:

Candy (Indigo/Pink)

Spoiler: Images

Spoiler: Text

//Zetterburn Candy Color (Cotton Candy)
//Body
40
25
93
//Hands
200
240
240
//Body Shadow
0
5
63
//Flame_Upper
250
190
230
//Flame_Lower
241
109
149
//Flame_Outline
228
50
99

//Orcane Candy Color (Bubblegum)
//Body
75
35
150
//White
250
190
230
//Body Shadow
45
0
120

//Wrastor Candy Color (Taffy)
//Body
81
45
173
//Hands
40
25
93
//Body Shadow
50
45
113
//Belly
170
240
240
//Scarf Light
241
109
149
//Scarf Dark
228
20
69

//Kragg Candy Color (Jawbreaker)
//Rock Light
81
45
173
//Skin
241
109
149
//Rock Darkest
20
0
63
//Armor Light
130
180
180
//Armor Mid
90
140
140
//Armor Darkest
60
100
100
//Rock Second
61
35
143
//Rock Third
40
25
93

Clean (White/Blue)

Spoiler: Images

Spoiler: Text

//Zetterburn Color (Clean)
//Body
70
70
100
//Hands
200
240
240
//Body Shadow
40
40
60
//Flame_Yellow
240
240
240
//Flame_Orange
180
200
200
//Flame_Red
50
150
150

//Orcane Color (Clean)
//Body
220
235
250
//White
160
222
240
//Body Shadow
175
185
200

//Wrastor Color (Clean)
//Body
70
70
100
//Hands
160
202
220
//Body Shadow
40
40
60

//Kragg Color (Clean)
//Rock Light
240
240
240
//Skin
80
80
110
//Rock Darkest
60
80
80
//Armor Light
160
240
240
//Armor Mid
120
200
200
//Armor Darkest
80
160
160
//Rock Second
180
200
200
//Rock Third
100
120
120

Dirty (Brown/Burgundy)

Spoiler: Images

Spoiler: Text

//Zetterburn Color (Dirty)
//Body
150
70
70
//Hands
180
120
120
//Body Shadow
110
55
55
//Flame_light
180
160
120
//Flame_mid
120
100
60
//Flame_outline
100
80
30

//Orcane Color (Muddy)
//Body
100
80
30
//White
160
100
100
//Body Shadow
40
35
30

//Wrastor Color (Dirty)
//Body
150
70
70
//Hands
100
80
30
//Body Shadow
110
55
55
//Belly
160
100
100
//Scarf Light
180
160
120
//Scarf Dark
120
100
60

//Kragg Color (Dirty)
//Rock Light
140
120
100
//Skin
160
100
100
//Rock Darkest
30
10
0
//Armor Light
150
70
70
//Armor Mid
100
40
40
//Armor Darkest
50
10
10
//Rock Second
90
70
30
//Rock Third
50
30
0

I might not do any more themes for awhile. But I think I enjoy doing these too much to completely stop, so I'll probably have more one-offs popping up at least.

I could even see myself eventually doing requests if people are interested but I'll have to approach that idea a bit carefully. Let's see what happens when I run out of ideas first...

 

[CaptainCrisb]

Wait, kinda a dumb question, but you can make custom color palettes? How?

 

[Cirby64]

Wait, kinda a dumb question, but you can make custom color palettes? How?

Sanic made a guide on page 24. I'd link it, but I need 10 posts to share a link.

 

[Boasting Toast]

I made this guide for transitioning from Smash to Rivals. Covered almost everything.

 

[RoA_Zam]

I made this guide for transitioning from Smash to Rivals. Covered almost everything.

I like. Little things I would have changed though:

SDI exists if you toggle to vectoring by pressing D, so to say it doesn't exist isn't entirely accurate.

I might be wrong but I think you missed talking about teching on walls or floors out of an attack.

Everything else looks pretty solid.

 

[Boss N]

I made this guide for transitioning from Smash to Rivals. Covered almost everything.

Watching this REEALLLY makes me wanna play
Only two days left…. hopefully.

This seriously looks like the game Melee should've been as a competitive game (minus shielding or grabbing but parrying looks like a unique alternative at least)

 

[Boasting Toast]

I like. Little things I would have changed though:

SDI exists if you toggle to vectoring by pressing D, so to say it doesn't exist isn't entirely accurate.

I might be wrong but I think you missed talking about teching on walls or floors out of an attack.

Everything else looks pretty solid.

I thought about that after I rendered. I might add that stuff in and reup it.

 

[Sol_Vent]

Taking a break from recolors to bring up a few balance/gameplay things.

Wrastor's dtilt animation is misleading. It looks like the hitbox should start somewhat closer to him. Actually, it looks like the attack should extend a bit behind him. I think the animation could be tweaked to better match the hitboxes, or... vice versa?

Orcane's usmash... Does it have a sourspot? Because it should probably have a sourspot.

Finally, does anyone else wonder if Kragg's downB might be too versatile? It stuffs pretty much all frontal approaches, sets up for combos, and seems almost impossible to punish unless it's used catastrophically poorly. It's not so much that I or others have trouble with the move, it just seems like it's kind of a momentary stalemate-maker because backing up and staying in neutral is usually the best way to deal with it. I think toning back any one of the three things I mentioned above might make it a more interesting tool.

So, any thoughts on this stuff? On the mark? Totally off base? Old news? Wow, Sol, you sure are good at playtesting?

 

[RoA_Zam]

Taking a break from recolors to bring up a few balance/gameplay things.

Wrastor's dtilt animation is misleading. It looks like the hitbox should start somewhat closer to him. Actually, it looks like the attack should extend a bit behind him. I think the animation could be tweaked to better match the hitboxes, or... vice versa?

Orcane's usmash... Does it have a sourspot? Because it should probably have a sourspot.

Finally, does anyone else wonder if Kragg's downB might be too versatile? It stuffs pretty much all frontal approaches, sets up for combos, and seems almost impossible to punish unless it's used catastrophically poorly.

So, any thoughts on this stuff? On the mark? Totally off base? Old news? Wow, Sol, you sure are good at playtesting?

Wrastor's dtilt is a bit disjointed and extends past his actual sprite. I have noticed that before.

Sourspot on strong attacks used out of puddle could have a sourspot in the center or near the beginning of the water spout thingy and get stronger the farther along the sprite they go.

Kragg Down Special in my experience only serves as a way to condition you to parry faster and react quicker. Once you can parry it semi-consistently at least, then approaches are easy every time haha.

Get back to colors! jk. That's my job lol

 

[Cirby64]

Hey guys. I tried to recreate the Super Smash Bros "How To Play" video in Rivals of Aether! I only took about an hour, so it is a bit unpolished. Tell me what you think!