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Ridleys appearance as a boss character ONLY

Harliart

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Normally I'm all for Ridley.. in fact hes really the only reason i want to buy Brawl.. i want to kick my friends *** with him.. [ he usually uses samus ]

But.. now that weve found out about these "non playable bosses" like petey piranah.. im having second thoughts.. Obviously Ridley is 100% going to be a boss for samus in the subspace emissary.. what with his "boss theme music" and what-not. So this must mean that hes not playable right?

He'll be difficult for Sakurai to make a moveset for being so lanky.. and as everyone has said.. HE IS MASSIVE.. and look!.. the subspace emissary bosses are MASSIVE!.. :O and they use only a couple of menuvours to attack their opponents.

His chances to me.. just got slimmer :(
 

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Prepare to get you *** flamed...


Also Ridley for PC
 

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No... you know what, i'm tired of enlightened noobs about this situation, find my last posts on the petey pirahna thread and read them.
 

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Wouldn't you like to know?
Just because there are bosses doesn't mean a few of them can't be playable. What of Ganondorf?

Next, there are better villain's for Samus's SSE boss. Mother brain, D. Samus/Metroid Prime...

There are more points, but I'll just leave it at this for now.
 

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OMG Bowser is not going to be playable because he is Mario's Boss!!!!
 

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Maybe I can say this again? Petey =/= Ganondorf, Ridley, Dedede, Bowser

Petey is more of a minor boss than a real boss. There was no real huge factor for him to be playable, I knew he would make an appearance. But not as a playable.

-Onyx
 

Harliart

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I couldnt be crummed going through the search option, explored keeps craping up on me everytime i try to use it. Just wanted to see if everyone knew about it.

ps. i aint a noob im just completely ignorant you chunk of fat.

bai!
 

Harliart

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Bowser is way smaller than Ridley.. Bowser doesnt have BOSS music on smashbros.com
 

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One of my posts:

Ridley has the same importance as Bowser and Ganondorf this doesn't confirm anything, we all knew Petey was doomed to not even be in the game, Sak surprised us, but still, not good enough to be a PC.

We all know Ridley has more potential and a bigger fanbase than Petey, the update of the bossess doesn't confirm anything.

And like i sayd, Bowser and Ganondorf will surely be bosses, and Bowser is playable, same with Ganondorf.

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But just 'cause of your last posts i noticed your an idiot, bowser has been bigger than Ridley since always, and guess what? Ridley is a BOSS on the metroid games, where they play the BOSS music, when you fight the BOSS called RIDLEY.

Also even if Ridley is a boss that doesn't mean he is not going to be a PC.

Saying that Petey lowers Ridley choices is the same as saying that it lowers Ganondorf's chances.
 

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Bowser is way smaller than Ridley.. Bowser doesnt have BOSS music on smashbros.com
Bowser is 10' something...I don't know how big Ridley is but 10' isn't exactly small...
 

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OMG when will people stop being stupid??? When god???

Look, Ridley Boss Battle is the name of the song when it was used in Metroid. You know the Yoshi Story Ending song? Do you think just because it has the word "ending" in it that that is what it will be used for? No, because they simply took the name from the game in which it was originally used.

Second, if anyone is bigger than anyone here, Bowser is bigger than Ridley. Size is not a matter in Smash. It has been proven a terrible argument time and time again. Ridley was only big in one game and that was Prime. Unfortunately, Prime is the only game a lot of people have played.

DO NOT ever mess with Ridley for future reference. Ridley fanboys are worse than Sonic fanboys. The only reason you haven't been flamed to death is because you went about this politely.
 

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@Psycho. Let's see... Generations.

NES: Ridley was .5 bigger than Samus, Bowser was 2 times bigger than Mario with a Mushroom.

SNES: Ridley twice as big than Samus, Bowser was 3 times bigger than Mario with a mushroom.

N64: No Ridley, but Bowser was 10 times bigger than Mario.

GC: Ridley around 5 times bigger than Samus, look at Bowser above. Also wasn't Bowser a f*cking giant on Sunshine? Well... Luigi Mansion, King boo's Bowser suit: 10 times bigger than Luigi, and luigi is tall.

So yep... Bowser has always been bigger than Ridley, and on Metroid Zero Mission Ridley is only 2.5 times bigger than Samus.

Besides, we know size is not an issue on Smash.
 

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I dont know, Ridley has so much Potential for being a character I would really hate to see him as a boss. As fun as it would probably be to fight him, I would much rather be him. Let Mother Brain be the boss or Kraid, but leave Ridley out of it please.
 

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Meh, i'm pretty sure he is going to be a boss.

*ridley fans gasp*


Just like Bowser and Ganondorf, very playable.
 

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lol dont even waste your time trying to tell anyone he wont be playable believe me ive tried. so your really wasting your time. when Sakurai reveals that he will be a boss on the Dojo the next reason they will have is he can still be playble. look at Bowser and Ganondorf. so basically again your wasting your time. the most you can do is wait until the game comes out. or until Sakurai on the boss update says he will only be a boss. as he did Petey. after that everyone will go to Sakurai's house with pitchforks.
 

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Bowser is way smaller than Ridley.. Bowser doesnt have BOSS music on smashbros.com
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xothRxt7yOg

Super Mario Sunshine begs to differ. Just skip ahead to about 4 minutes to get to the actual boss fight.

BOSS music, as you so put it, is entitled such as it is the theme for some BOSS fights in the games and just happens to be Ridley's theme. If there was 1 tune that played every time you fought Bowser, that would be his theme and also BOSS music.
 
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I do believe Ridley will be a boss in this game, and I've thought that for years.

Nothing to say he can't be playable though, or he can be either! We'll just have to wait and see.
 

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I wouldn't really mind if he was a boss but I'll be a bit disappointed if he's a boss and not playable.
 

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now that I think of it..... (you guys are gonna love this one) I think boss characters are going to be special. and NON PLAYABLE. Petey got his own update in game modes which automatically means he's not playable correct?. so if anyone else gets highlighted in that way ala Petey they wont be playable either. why the double standard? Sakurai is practically saying that bosses are completely separate from playable characters with that update. Why should this only apply to Petey? I doubt we are going to see Bowser be highlighted in that way because he's going to be a playable character.same for ganondorf. all of you guys say Petey wont be playable so anyone that's a boss wont be playble is the way see I it. If Ridley is updated as a boss he's out of it. so you guys cross your fingers.

I give myself a pat on the back with that one. please try to think of some reason to dispel this. because we all know how good you guys are.
 

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now that I think of it..... (you guys are gonna love this one) I think boss characters are going to be special. and NON PLAYABLE. Petey got his own update in game modes which automatically means he's not playable correct?. so if anyone else gets highlighted in that way ala Petey they wont be playable either. why the double standard? Sakurai is practically saying that bosses are completely separate from playable characters with that update. Why should this only apply to Petey? I doubt we are going to see Bowser be highlighted in that way because he's going to be a playable character.same for ganondorf. all of you guys say Petey wont be playable so anyone that's a boss wont be playble is the way see I it. If Ridley is updated as a boss he's out of it. so you guys cross your fingers.

I give myself a pat on the back with that one. please try to think of some reason to dispel this. because we all know how good you guys are.
All of this has been said before (and yes, it is a solid theory although the mechanics of the boss fight could be revealed under game modes so Bowser COULD appear there but I doubt we'd see any of the big boss fights like that anyway), and it still doesn't address the question that this topic brings up of why Ridley is being compared to Petey in terms of Boss-only status. They aren't even comparable in terms of chances of being playable and I'm sick to death of people saying "Petey boss only, omg Ridley isn't going to be playable either!". That last part isn't aimed at you though, just venting in general.
 

tstumo

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that's true. Ridley and Petey are not in the same league. but people are going by what they see so far. "Petey is not playble so that means any other bosses wont be playble."that's pretty stupid if you ask me and I wont ever say that .when i say Ridley might not be palayble in brawl it's not because of his size or anything like that. the conclusion ive come to is what ive stated before. and if Ridley appears as a playble character I think Metroid will be getting another boss. If Ridley is the boss then I dont think he will be playble not based off of Petey but based on what was put on the dojo about the bosses. and that doesnt only aplly to Ridley. I could be wrong though
 

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I'm almost positive Ridley's gonna be a boss, and for all you fan boys out there.

WHY DONT YOU JUST GET AN AR IF HE IS?
Because AR most likely not work with the Wii's updates.

Anyway, about this; I think that there will be playable bosses. By that I mean your most likely going to see Ridley as the same size he'd be when your unlock him.

I mean Ridley being a boss only is almost like saying King Dedede is going to be a boss only (Never going to happen). The reason why Petey is a boss only is because he's useless; he's not even notable/important like King Dedede or Ridley.
 

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Because AR most likely not work with the Wii's updates.

Anyway, about this; I think that there will be playable bosses. By that I mean your most likely going to see Ridley as the same size he'd be when your unlock him.

I mean Ridley being a boss only is almost like saying King Dedede is going to be a boss only (Never going to happen). The reason why Petey is a boss only is because he's useless; he's not even notable/important like King Dedede or Ridley.
What updates?

And you tell the fanboys that Petey's useless, guess what. You'll be in the same situation as me. So then, You'll be called an idiot like Anti-Ridley's are.
 

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You know the Wii's Connect24 thing? When it updates the AR won't work with it anymore. I guess if you never update you Wii then you can use AR, maybe.

Tell me that Petey is anywhere near as important as King Dedede or Ridley.
 

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You know the Wii's Connect24 thing? When it updates the AR won't work with it anymore. I guess if you never update you Wii then you can use AR, maybe.

Tell me that Petey is anywhere near as important as King Dedede or Ridley.
Petey isn't, but still. If you say that to a Petey Fan-boy, they'll beg to differ.

And you are the Same as them just with Ridley instead.

Ridley is just one of the main bosses, and Ridley's just one of the bosses that HAS to be in the metroid games, And Petey seems to be making that standard for mario games.
 

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Petey isn't, but still. If you say that to a Petey Fan-boy, they'll beg to differ.

And you are the Same as them just with Ridley instead.

Ridley is just one of the main bosses, and Ridley's just one of the bosses that HAS to be in the metroid games, And Petey seems to be making that standard for mario games.
I'm not really a Ridley fanboy. I see your point that Nintendo is throwing Petey into every Mario spin-off. Petey overall doesn't seem that important, why would an unimportant character make it into Brawl? ( not refering to Melee at all ). I think a character must have something notable about them. Petey just fails in comparison to other notable characters like Bowser, Ganondorf, Ridley and King Dedede.
 

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Nobody knows what Ridley's going to be. He could a playable character, a boss, an assist trophy, a pokeball, a stage hazard, a 2008 presidential candidate, a Chinese acrobat, a phone sex operator, or an underwear model for all we know. Anyone claiming he definitely will or won't be one thing or another is an idiot.
 

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How can we be "100% sure" of this?

To tell you the truth it's nothing short of ridiculous. We have no idea if all series will be represented with a boss, we have no idea whether some bosses might be unlockable or not, and lastly we have no idea who these bosses will be.

If we think of Petey, he is an unimportant villain in the Mario series. Ridley is like the main boss of Metroid games, right? Of course Ridley could be the boss, seeing as Mario is Nintendo's biggest series, however I just don't really see it happening. Ridley is like at the top of the polls, I just don't think Sakurai would do that to Metroid fans.

Who knows anymore, though? All I know is nothing about this can't be said with 100% certainty.
 

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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=37757464

^^^ orgin of the below post

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Posted by Giga Raver:

I'd like to just point out something. While not fact or anything, it is understandable for people to be saying that Petey Pirahna's being a boss decreases Ridley's chances of being playable...due to the size issue.

While I don't condone the size issue regarding character playability, I'm more receptive to the size issue regarding characters' roles in their own games. Petey is a big character in the game he's in, and Ridley is a pretty big character in the game he is.

(I'd like to note though that both characters have experienced shifting sizes throughout their game appearances; Ridley's size hasn't exactly been consistent, and Petey Pirahna has appeared much smaller in the game Mario Kart: Double Dash.)

Having said all of this, I'd like to bring to the table not only Petey Pirahna's Game Mode update... not only the music update concerning Ridley...but both at the same time.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music03.html

Let's note some things:

- Sakurai makes notice of Ridley's existence within the series he comes from.
- Sakurai mentions Ridley's role in the series he's in.
- While not really as important, the Metroid Logo exists within this update (of course though it's regarding the actual music, not just Ridley himself)

Now I'm not here to argue the relevance of this music. That's for another topic (and I've already explained my side on that issue in other topics).

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea04.html

Now compared to update that:

- Sakurai makes no mention of Petey Pirahna's existence within the series he comes from.
- Sakurai fails to even mention what game Petey Pirahna originates from.
- More important than the 3rd point I typed above regarding Ridley... this update bears no Mushroom Icon.

It seems Petey's sole reason for being in Brawl is to be a boss...an element of this Subspace Emissary Adventure Story...and nothing more. I think THAT...if anything is the true reason why we won't be seeing Petey as a playable character.

Now as for Ridley, he IS referenced by Sakurai. So far it doesn't seem to be that Sakurai is treading lightly around his existence. More importantly, he has his own theme. He seems pretty darn important enough to merit this treatment, compared to Petey Pirahna; the poor mutated plant looks nice and intimidating, but he's been ripped from his roots (no pun intended) and plugged into this game in a role that does nothing to represent himself or the series he comes from. He's a pawn.


Will Ridley suffer the same fate? I'm gonna go on a whim and say...no he won't. What does this mean for Ridley's chances then? I won't say that what I'm posting means a whole lot. It's just something to think about.

It seems those who would become boss-only are bound to be cut from their roots and planted into this game as mere tools. I think it would be kind of strange if, after being honored with getting an upgraded theme and being recognized properly by Sakurai himself, he simply became another part of the adventure...existing only as another piece of a story that has little to do with his true history.

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This is very rare of Gamefaqs.. What do you think of it?
 

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That is a well thought out and intelligent post. I have to completely agree with whoever posted of it.

Sakurai has indeed acknowledged Ridley reffering to him as "Samus’s arch-nemesis". Thats quite an important role :laugh:

Once again, excellent post. Thanks for sharing it, Kirby Knight.

Post that in the Ridley thread if you haven't already :bigthumbu

Dave
 

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That is a well thought out and intelligent post. I have to completely agree with whoever posted of it.

Sakurai has indeed acknowledged Ridley reffering to him as "Samus’s arch-nemesis". Thats quite an important role :laugh:

Once again, excellent post. Thanks for sharing it, Kirby Knight.

Post that in the Ridley thread if you haven't already :bigthumbu

Dave
I concur, RIDLEY FOR PC.
 
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