Sniper Maxter
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"THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME" needs to be on a taunt. It NEEDS to be.
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"THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME" needs to be on a taunt. It NEEDS to be.
especially after that patch T-T"THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME" needs to be on a taunt. It NEEDS to be.
That's actually a pretty interesting idea. This would not have been the first time someone in Smash got a move or line from another character in their game, so no boundaries there."THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME" needs to be on a taunt. It NEEDS to be.
If it does knockback or trips, then would it really have any weakness in 1v1s? Sounds like big damage at a range plus a free heal to me.Random idea Anchor shot as an attack that does considerable damage but creates a HP potion that all parties can use, meaning, be careful to not let them recover.
Wasn't Shulk the only character to ever steal a line from somebody else in Smash, and only in the English dub even? As far as I'm aware every other taunt line is original or a self-quote. You're right about the moves though.That's actually a pretty interesting idea. This would not have been the first time someone in Smash got a move or line from another character in their game, so no boundaries there.
I believe so, but I'll double-check.Wasn't Shulk the only character to ever steal a line from somebody else in Smash, and only in the English dub even?
I really like how this game intertwines with the first game. Anyone whom has played the first game will know who the third Aegis, and whom the Architect's other half is.
Overall, I look forward to future games in this series.
who do you think the third aegis is? cause i cant think of anyone who its supposed to be
It's mainly assumed by most people that Ontos is Alvis.
i suppose he's a likely suspect, i was thinking it might have been a set up for a future game mind, i seem to recall reading that the aegis crystals looked like something from xenogears or xenosaga so i thought it could have been a reference to that
i suppose he's a likely suspect, i was thinking it might have been a set up for a future game mind, i seem to recall reading that the aegis crystals looked like something from xenogears or xenosaga so i thought it could have been a reference to that
i suppose he's a likely suspect, i was thinking it might have been a set up for a future game mind, i seem to recall reading that the aegis crystals looked like something from xenogears or xenosaga so i thought it could have been a reference to that
The Aegis crystals are in the shape of the Zohar from Xenogears and Saga. Now here's the kicker. The Conduit in Xenoblade 2 is in the same shape and general color as the Zohar. Both also have the same dimensional abilities.
Conduit
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Zohar
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The Zohar in Xenogears looks much different but i think it has the same abilities
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Also, bit of trivia, the Zohar in Xenosaga was inspired the Monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
The way I see it: Alvis is a Blade, Shulk is his Driver, and the Monado is the weapon which bonds the two.
If Alvis isn't the third Aegis, then I definitely think he was that giant Core Crystal above Klaus's computer. This would also make sense, since Alvis told Shulk that the satellite was "his home", and that he is the administrative computer of an experiment facility. If this theory is true, then that means the third Aegis is someone entirely different. Someone we've yet to see. If so, then it opens up many possibilities for a Xenoblade 3.
There's no solid proof, but I, too, theorise that Alvis might be the third Aegis. However, it is possible Zanza created Alvis, just how the Architect created Malos and Pyra--so I could be wrong. Although, having re-watched the ending of the first game, Zanza looked surprised when Alvis said, "I am Monado." Ergo, that tells me that Zanza had no clue whom Alvis truly was.
In Xenoblade 1, Shulk loses possession of the Monado after Zanza leaves his body. During his coma, Alvis approaches Shulk in his dreams and tells him, "You must find your own Monado." And thus, Shulk was back in action. I don't think Shulk just magically created his own Monado; I think Alvis gave him that power. That speaks to me that he has the same powers as Malos, whom also called his weapon a Monado. Lastly, since Alvis knew Zanza's origins, it's possible he also knew the Architect.
The way I see it: Alvis is a Blade, Shulk is his Driver, and the Monado is the weapon which bonds the two.
If Alvis isn't the third Aegis, then I definitely think he was that giant Core Crystal above Klaus's computer. This would also make sense, since Alvis told Shulk that the satellite was "his home", and that he is the administrative computer of an experiment facility. If this theory is true, then that means the third Aegis is someone entirely different. Someone we've yet to see. If so, then it opens up many possibilities for a Xenoblade 3.
Lastly, I have always theorised that planet Mira in Xenoblade X, and the planet Shulk created, are one in the same. If Alvis is indeed the giant Core Crystal, then I'm starting to think HE was the one whom was translating the alien languages.
This may be an indication that Rex and Pyra, or another XC2 character, have an almost-guaranteed chance to get in Smash 5.This seems relevant.
https://twitter.com/AllSourceGaming/status/956883334327447552
She's best Xenoblade character, soHow would everyone feel if Rex didn’t make it but instead we got Poppi?
(Only time I’m bringing this up so don’t worry)
There is a certain someone who doesn't really agree with that statement...She's best Xenoblade character, so
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I kinda want my big dumb Shulk vs. Rex magic laser sword fight. Any one of the other party members would make a great Assist though. Or should I say two? A Driver without their Blade or vice-versa just wouldn't be right.How would everyone feel if Rex didn’t make it but instead we got Poppi?
(Only time I’m bringing this up so don’t worry)
In all honesty I see both Elma and Rex+Pyra being added, but whenever Rex is in really depends on when the development on Smash begun. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has been in development for several years (even before the release of X), so it isn't unlikely that the Smash team had prior knowledge of him, just like how it happened for Greninja.I am wholeheartedly a Rex (Well, Rex and Pyra, specifically) supporter; I would like to voice my support.
However, I would like to have a (friendly) debate, because I do not think Rex is a likely newcomer at this current point in time. I want to hear arguments from you guys who think he's likely.
Every Smash Bros. game to date has had a tendency to include newcomers focused on highlighting games from the generation before the home console on which the game was developed.
Smash 64 (SNES and Gameboy+Obligatory): Entire Roster
Melee (N64 and Gameboy Color):
Exceptions:Brawl (Gamecube and GBA):
Exceptions:Smash 4 (Wii and DS+Early 3DS*):
Exceptions (Mostly 3rd party and DLC):
*Note that the 3DS had been out for almost two years before the Wii U's release, making it a bit of an oddball when it comes to console generations. I consider early 3DS from its release to the Wii U's to be before the Wii U's generation.
With this in mind, I think it's a whole lot more likely that we're going to see Elma than Rex. She's has other factors going for her as well that Rex doesn't have:
While Rex does have a lot going for him also (namely, he's popular and from the best selling game in the franchise), I can't help but see Elma as being more likely given the history of the series' inclusions so far.
- Dual swords and guns (unique in Smash)
- Director is interested in porting X to Switch (Source)
- X has a chance to get a sequel (cliffhanger ending)
- Arguably represents a different core style than Chronicles 1 and 2. (Less story focus, more sci-fi inspirations, more open world than even Chronicles) (Source)
That's a fair point. I would certainly say that Rex is more likely if we get an entirely new Smash 5 than if we get a Smash 4 DX. That said, the reason Greninja was an exception is because GameFreak tends to promote their most recent games, not because Sakurai went out of his way to get the newest Pokemon character. I'm not convinced that Monolith Soft has any desire to tell Sakurai to include Rex if he's planning on adding Elma instead. Especially considering that Elma's game is due for a port and a sequel at some point that will probably release on the Switch.In all honesty I see both Elma and Rex+Pyra being added, but whenever Rex is in really depends on when the development on Smash begun. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has been in development for several years (even before the release of X), so it isn't unlikely that the Smash team had prior knowledge of him, just like how it happened for Greninja.
I would argue otherwise. Sakurai is a fan of Fire Emblem, and likely decided that he wanted to include Ike as the series' newcomer early on in development since he played his game. Plus, Ike appears very early in the Subspace Emissary, so he wasn't finalized last-minute.And it could be said that Ike's inclusion in Brawl was also due to his appereance in Radiant Dawn, because his slot was "Fire Emblem" when finalizing the roster. They wanted a character from the latest FE, which was Radiant Dawn, and it happened that it was a sequel of the GCN one, so Ika was picked.
I would see the following characters as potential candidates from the Wii U+3DS era:Besides all of this I see them going with more recent characters because they have already used most 3DS characters and there really aren't that many Wii U characters that would be good newcomers. I can think to Elma, Inklings and Captain Toad, but that's it from the Wii U.
I could see Sakurai wanting to add both Elma and Rex, since they both have a lot to offer in Smash, and Xenoblade keeps on growing as a series (and it even developed into two parallel series, being the regular one and X). And Sakurai has shown his appreciation for the series several times.That's a fair point. I would certainly say that Rex is more likely if we get an entirely new Smash 5 than if we get a Smash 4 DX. That said, the reason Greninja was an exception is because GameFreak tends to promote their most recent games, not because Sakurai went out of his way to get the newest Pokemon character. I'm not convinced that Monolith Soft has any desire to tell Sakurai to include Rex if he's planning on adding Elma instead. Especially considering that Elma's game is due for a port and a sequel at some point that will probably release on the Switch.
I would argue otherwise. Sakurai is a fan of Fire Emblem, and likely decided that he wanted to include Ike as the series' newcomer early on in development since he played his game. Plus, Ike appears very early in the Subspace Emissary, so he wasn't finalized last-minute.
I would see the following characters as potential candidates from the Wii U+3DS era:
Inklings (Splatoon)
Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
Captain Toad (Super Mario 3D World, Treasure Tracker)
Dixie Kong (Tropical Freeze)
Decidueye (Sun and Moon, Ultra Sun and Moon)
Bandana Dee (Kirby Triple Deluxe, Kirby: Planet Robobot, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse)
Paper Mario (Sticker Star, Color Splash, Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam)
Kamek (Yoshi's New Island, Yoshi's Wooly World, NSMBU, Paper Mario Series)
Tetra? (Wind Waker HD, Hyrule Warriors Legends)
Impa? (Hyrule Warriors+Legends, OoT 3D, kinda A Link Between Worlds)
Ganon?? (A Link Between Worlds, technically Breath of the Wild, Hyrule Warriors+Legends)
Wolf (Star Fox Zero, veteran)
Then, naturally, there's the matter of third parties and veterans (Ice Climbers) to consider. That is a really solid pool of characters to pick from. That said, a few Switch characters could totally appear, especially when DLC is considered. (Spring Man is an obvious one to consider, but Rex is as well.)
Alph is indeed a notable exception. That being said, there may be a caveat regarding clones (what Alph almost was), since Roy and Dr. Mario were also exceptions. Maybe since they tend to be decided upon late in development, they coincide more with newer titles?There is one exception you sort of forgot
Yes he was just a costume, but he's still playable and also made his debut in the Wii U.
And Sakurai played and loved Xenoblade 2, and it sold over a million, and it has likely been in development for quite a while.
I can easily see this to being a similar case to Pokemon (Location debut on the DS) and Fire Emblem, the most recent character gets in.
I do believe that there's a real chance of Elma and Rex coming alongside one-another in the next Smash game, but I'm just skeptical that we'll get two Xenoblade characters. It's possible that Sakurai would consider them two parallel series, though, which is important to consider.I could see Sakurai wanting to add both Elma and Rex, since they both have a lot to offer in Smash, and Xenoblade keeps on growing as a series (and it even developed into two parallel series, being the regular one and X). And Sakurai has shown his appreciation for the series several times.
I left out Bandana Dee, Paper Mario, Dixie Kong, Tetra, Kamek, Wolf ecc. because they didn't debuted on the Wii U. I mean it isn't like Diddy Kong's inclusion in Brawl was for his cameos in Mario Sport games on the GCN, but for his achivements on the Snes and N64. Or Little Mac wouldn't have been added if Punch-Out Wii was the only game in the series.
About veterans there are only a few worth bringing back (Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake). In regards of the TP we must remember that Sakurai sees Smash as a celebration of JAPANESE gaming, so I doubt we will see any western characters in the near future. And of the Japanese gaming scene the only big names missing are Metal Gear, Castlevania, Bomberman and Dragon Quest.
Well, Xenoblade 2 is the first Xenoblade game to break 1 million sales so Sakurai could easily add Rex (at least) to celebrate. Xenoblade 2 is one of Nintendo's million sellers now (the game, not the series obviously) so it's easily a sign of enough popularity to warrant Rex in Smash.I do believe that there's a real chance of Elma and Rex coming alongside one-another in the next Smash game, but I'm just skeptical that we'll get two Xenoblade characters
well if you think about it rex can wield a large variety of weapons each with its own arts, and while its likely he'll just have the aegis sword the fact that he has so many arts makes it arguable that he has more moveset potentialI will say that I do support for some Xenoblade 2 content in the next Smash (if there’s gonna be one whether a new installment or a port), however, I’m not so keen about seeing Rex as a fighter. I rather see Pyra or Mythra instead since they have more moveset potential than him but that’s just me. Not saying Rex is a bad character or anything in case someone says something about it. Regardless, I’m all in to contribute here.
P.S. Xenoblade 2 is an awesome game. Spent 200+ hours into it and I enjoyed it a lot.