Resident Evil 4 Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins!!!

[Chaco]

Reasons for this?

 

[CT Chia]

I'd ****ing hate posting like that, so I'm guessing it's a restriction. It fits the crumbed characted, and what he's crumbing as a role perplexes me. I'm not CERTAIN he's not scum, I'm just thinking he's screaming indy. Vibes, man.

I more mean related to the events of him not answering the proposed question, not his posting style

Chibo, since we pretty much won this game if you're right, let me ask you this one thing:

Why did you ask that question?

Thank you!

1. I noticed my role PM was in a darker green (seagreen), which I thought was unusual since it wasn't the lime color most games tend to use

2. I checked the sample pm in the OP and noticed it was for an indy, and no town sample role pm

So no sample for scum to learn from + awkward color = perfect reason to ask that question. Basically any time a mod forgets to put a sample PM for town this can happen, this is like the 3rd game where it's happened I think that I was apart of.

I asked Adum first because he's the strongest not me player imo, and would want him confirmed town or scum. I also knew that Adum would know exactly what I meant by the question, since he was either a part of (or read to my knowledge) Death Note Mafia in the BBR where it happened.

This is the reason sample town PMs exist, and the same reason why at the start of every aim mafia game the mod says town pm is "____"
Scum can sometimes squirm by it if they guess Lime, but using seagreen is rare enough that they wouldn't have guessed it.

Chibo asked that question because he enjoys winning, and does it by any means even if it means going out of the actual flow of mafia to get a victory, however many mods know this now and can make it quite fallible.

Chibo, learn2mafia.

Yup, basically this lol.

hey idk, if I can get an advantage in some way, I'm going to use it.

 

[Dooms]

Because honestly everything I can contribute right now is based on a Swiss flip.

Everything we've discussed so far is based on a Swiss flip pretty much.

Without the Swiss Flip I don't have any more opinions on this game basicly except:

Go after Ran if Swiss flips town

Go after Nix if Swiss flips scum.

:/.

 

[Chaco]

He obviously avoids it because be couldn't answer it, Chibo, you know that. I'm just unsure about him still because I'm leaning way more towards indy. I mean, I'm down with an Indy lynch if there's nothing else that can be done. But we have a long time left still, let's drag a bit more information out on the table.

What do you think about Swiss's crumbs?

Indy status?

 

[Chaco]

Then dig out more info, Joey. Don't just settle because you've exhausted one line of questioning.

 

[ranmaru]

I'd rather go:

Chibo > Joey > Seph

 

[Dooms]

How can I dig more info out of breaking the game?

I'm just going to be straight forward. I want to know if we really broke this game through the color of a role pm. I really want Swiss lynched to show this + him not wanting to give the town that much information at all. All of my reads are based on this flip. I don't have anything to contribute because most of the information in this very short day one is based on that flip. >_>.

I'm more leaning Swiss is asleep/not online than Swiss gave up by the way. Just putting that out there. I have yet to see him give up in a game, and I doubt this game will change anything unless he's really -really- mad.

 

[ranmaru]

Just be patient Joey. No big deal.

 

[Chaco]

I didn't mean about Swiss, Joey. I meant figure out about more of this game in general. Gets feels for players, and so on.

Also, he didn't want to because he didn't have the answer! Damn why is that so hard to realize. I mean, really?

 

[CT Chia]

Continuing on, it can be used as a gambit for Scum Chibo too. So that's why I'm essentially keeping it there as a resource but not basing a days lynch off of it within a matter of hours.

I was hoping to clear myself with the original confirmation of the question, but Ranmaru jumped in and said it when Dark Horse answered lol. However I did decipher (part of at least) Adum's post right away saying how I understood it prior relating to seagreen.

 

[ranmaru]

Looool. You don't need to clear yourself, you should just scumhunt.

But Joey says there might be a scum safeclaim?

 

[Chaco]

Its standard, Ranmaru.

 

[Dooms]

Every read I've tried to pull on this game is based on a Swiss Flip.

Is that worded better?

Here have my scum list:
Swiss
Nix
Kataefi
Chaco
BeatStick
RedRuy

Why? Because of everything that has happened with the colors obviously.

How do I fix this? Wait for the Swiss flip

If Swiss flip comes around and he flips town, then D2 may start over as D1 basicly. We may have to start from scratch and rethink everything based on what's happened and pull different scum picks since 7-6 out of 11 players (At D2 start) will be un-confirmed town. Do you realize how important this flip is to my views?

I can do things based on what happens if he flips town, but I've already stated that the next person I will persue if that's the case is Ranmaru.

I can't "dig deeper" into the game because there's nothing to dig into until Swiss flips.

Half of the people that are listed as scum picks have very little posts or none at all, while the other half don't really connect to Swiss.

Scum always have a safe claim. They may or may not include town color.

 

[ranmaru]

Its standard, Ranmaru.

Lol I meant colour safe claim

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Like roundabouts how many games total? Number of times town?

8 Games

5 Town - 3 Scum

 

[Chaco]

I understand, man, but here's the deal. The entire system is flawed, and that list of 7 could contain scum easy as ****. Which is why I keep saying note it as a resource, but don't let it dominate, which is exactly what you're doing.

 

[ranmaru]

Still on the phone RR? Sup bro. Don't let me down

 

[Dooms]

Okay.

So basicly, you're saying that the list is too big and that people in there can still be scum.

Me
Seph
Chibo
Adumb
DarkHorse
Ranmaru

These people are 100% town until Swiss is flipped.

I don't know about JTB, but he probably is.

It's dominating because 6 (probably 7 if someone tells me why JTB was in there. I honestly forgot why) people are 100% Town unless the town color was in their safe claims. This is a dominating factor until we have a flip.

 

[ranmaru]

Why did you put yourself Seph and Chibo first, Joey? (You say that's your %100 cleared town list)

 

[JTB]

Joey, I picked up on the seagreen thing and discreetly said it in my #246.

 

[Chaco]

No I'm saying that theres no 100% here and you're assuming Chibo's right. I'm telling you, breaking a game through **** like this is not as straightforward as it seems. I've seen Chibo do it before I believe, it's been awhile though, people know it happens they're going to prevent it.

The only person I don't doubt is town right now is Adumb.

 

[Dooms]

Oh okay.

7/13.

You can't fight this logic until it's proven false. Swiss' flip will prove it true or false.

I stand by my point. This is coming from someone not on the scum side of it by the way.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Seph can you explain this?

From our newbie <3



Could you explain how a quick lynch theory can have holes in it?

I don't remember what context I used that in.

Also, I probably going to stop playing mafia untill this new skin can be changed back to the old one. It's horrible looking, hard to look at and makes playing the game that much less enjoyable.

 

[JTB]

>use smash blue
>profit

 

[CT Chia]

No I'm saying that theres no 100% here and you're assuming Chibo's right. I'm telling you, breaking a game through **** like this is not as straightforward as it seems. I've seen Chibo do it before I believe, it's been awhile though, people know it happens they're going to prevent it.

The only person I don't doubt is town right now is Adumb.

And why is that? (about Adum)

Chaco you're either scum or EXTREMELY stubborn town
Just look at the facts in that thread. All 7 of those people had prior knowledge of the color issue
Swiss did not

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My read on chibo is his actions, he wanted a quick lynch before 2 other even could post on the very first day the game started. He said we had enough info, this only holds true if he is right that all seven people caught on based on their PM, does he know this for a fact? Only person who credibly answered his question was Adum who I have a town read on. Other people seemed to pick up on the message and Ranmaru got the color after DH posted the color as his text. You caught Swiss because he didn't pick up on Adum's answer like others. That was the impreesed I got from everyone who said, "I got it"

Joey is because his reponses to people aren't addressing points, he's blowing off a lot of question and comments saying he'll lynch or that they are idiots.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

All on phone btw, that is why I view those two as my top scum picks.

 

[Dooms]

I'm not considering you important to town until the flip so I really don't care to defend myself, Red Ruy. Since you're possible (and probable) scum.

Lynching order for me right now:

Swiss
Nix
Red Ruy
Kataefi
BeatStick
Chaco

 

[CT Chia]

Can we please lynch Swiss now?

 

[Dooms]

Yes. That.

There is literally no reason to wait that's more important than his flip.

 

[ranmaru]

Nope. 10Nopes.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Let Kat post before lynch please and thank you.

Good to see Joey bring nothing against what I said yet again.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait why is Kati on your lynch list? that makes no sense.

 

[ranmaru]

Sigh. Mass claiming kinda takes the fun away. >_> (Even as a colour)

 

[JTB]

wtf? Why are you bringing up mass claiming?

 

[ranmaru]

Talking about the colour question. Read the post.

 

[CT Chia]

that had nothing to do with mass claiming

are you upset that we practically made people claim town with proof in a game where everyone in the day is assumed to be town

come on ran think

 

[ranmaru]

Well it's fine. I want to win, but I want a challenge, and a chance to argue.

 

[CT Chia]

i don't understand

what your post

has to do with what i said at all

 

[JTB]

lmao

what he's saying chibo is that he's mad that you cleared 7 townies already and he didn't do anything