Interesting, hadn't seen that. Granted, we now how Nintendo is with release targets."An outside developer may be enlisted to hit 2015 release target"
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Interesting, hadn't seen that. Granted, we now how Nintendo is with release targets."An outside developer may be enlisted to hit 2015 release target"
Chances are it's gonna end up being 2016 anyway thoughInteresting, hadn't seen that. Granted, we now how Nintendo is with release targets.
Oh Lol I just realized I wrote 2017. I meant 2016. I don't expect a 2 year delay.Chances are it's gonna end up being 2016 anyway though
You can argue about the UP B.Up B 3 is also clearly based on Wolf Up B, even though it animates differently it has the same properties. Charge Blaster is also generally similar to Wolf's Blaster.
Granted, Wolf does have very different normals, but I still feel like he got those moves to sort of make up for Wolf's omission.
Wolf is/was a completely unique character. While some of the Fox/Falco customs maintain some properties of Wolf's, none of them give you the Wolf feel because a lot of Wolf's gameplay was about brawling and his smashes/tilts/aerials were like 90% different from Fox/Falco.You can argue about the UP B.
But man, the neutral B isn't even close of Wolf neutral B.
Wolf neutral B wasn't just a variation of Fox blaster with basic stats changes like being more powerful but more slower.
Wolf neutral B was a salve of green energy that decrease in terms of damage the more it travels, it has a melee attack and can stun, it could also being reversed.
Fox neutral B 3 is a KILL MOVE, it's far more powerful than Wolf neutral B (which isn't a kill move btw). Fox neutral B 3 is a variation of his blaster being more powerful, but take more time to be released.
How much do you want to bet that wolf will come back with a LANDMASTERWolf is/was a completely unique character. While some of the Fox/Falco customs maintain some properties of Wolf's, none of them give you the Wolf feel because a lot of Wolf's gameplay was about brawling and his smashes/tilts/aerials were like 90% different from Fox/Falco.
I miss Wolf (but not his Final Smash).
I've accepted reality even though it's a bitter pill :'(How much do you want to bet that wolf will come back with a LANDMASTER![]()
I know right.Wolf is/was a completely unique character. While some of the Fox/Falco customs maintain some properties of Wolf's, none of them give you the Wolf feel because a lot of Wolf's gameplay was about brawling and his smashes/tilts/aerials were like 90% different from Fox/Falco.
I miss Wolf (but not his Final Smash).
Ugh, I have already thought of that...How much do you want to bet that wolf will come back with a LANDMASTER![]()
Or maybe just having Leon and Panther traveling in the stage dropping grenades randomly too. Kinda with Pit Brawl Final Smash, where there's minions attacking the opponents while Pit can attack too.Ugh, I have already thought of that...
After seeing Falco having a landmaster again I'm scared for Wolf's Final Smash.
They really should do a new type of Final Smash where Wolf will call Leon and Panther to "clean" the stage with their Wolfen while Wolf could be on Oikonny's Wolfen dropping Assault's grenades in a 2D style, and you will be able to move Oikonny's Wolfen from left to right while pressing A to drop grenades.
This could be a lot of fun, it will be original and this will not only represent Wolf but the whole Star Wolf team.
Hope my message get understood like I wanted to be, it wasn't easy to explain my crazy idea.
That's a cool idea, I'm sure with DLC they can make him unique as possible.Ugh, I have already thought of that...
After seeing Falco having a landmaster again I'm scared for Wolf's Final Smash.
They really should do a new type of Final Smash where Wolf will call Leon and Panther to "clean" the stage with their Wolfen while Wolf could be on Oikonny's Wolfen dropping Assault's grenades in a 2D style, and you will be able to move Oikonny's Wolfen from left to right while pressing A to drop grenades.
This could be a lot of fun, it will be original and this will not only represent Wolf but the whole Star Wolf team.
Hope my message get understood like I wanted to be, it wasn't easy to explain my crazy idea.
I'm the only one who think Simon Belmond is not very representative for Konami ?Simon- If Nintendo & Konami want another Konami rep.
^ ThisI'd think costumes would be DLC. Such as:
Hyrule Warriors Outfit for Link, Zelda, Ganondorf
Yes but Knuckles last important role in a game is ... well ... long ago ... Tails is always here in sidekick character and can have a great gameplay with all of his arsenal and why not play him in his Tornado/Cyclone from SA2 in walk mode .A character I'd like to see is Tails or Knuckles. Knuckles would make sense since he is a fighting kind of character. (Sonic is forever alone in Smash)
To each their own, but Simon, I believe, has better reasons to rep Konami in Sm4sh than Snake for these reasons:I'm the only one who think Simon Belmont is not very representative for Konami ?
If it's Konami then Snake will be ( at least for me ) first choice .
Ohw ...To each their own, but Simon, I believe, has better reasons to rep Konami in Sm4sh than Snake for these reasons:
1. Castlevania started on the NES
2. Castlevania has seen more games on Nintendo consoles tham MGS has
3. Konami still seems to release Castlvania on Nintendo while the last MGS game on Nintendo, correct me if I'm wrong, was the one on 3DS and I believe that it was a remake and was the first one in while to be on Nintendo.
4. I like Simon better than Snake
This is just my opinion on the matter so please don't take any of this offensively because I don't feel like arguing with anybody.
That costume is based on the one Mario wore in the game NES Open Tournament Golf. Now, I haven't played that game but I doubt there were costumes resembling another nation, so don't think it's just special treatment.For example, WHERE IS MY MEXICO/ITALIAN FLAG LUIGI SKIN? Why is there America Mario -- 50 characters in the game and there's only one that has a national flag on it? I would also love a Pikachu with the Ruby/Sapphire protagonist hat.
Wolf wasn't a semi-clone, he just wasn't a clone at all.Reallistically, unless this is the last Smash Bros game, I don't expect many new characters as DLC. If I had to order there chances based on current circumstances though, it would be as follows from most to least likely.
Veterans:
1. Wolf, Wolf in my opinion is the most likely veteran to rejoin the battle. He should be in the New Starfox game, and even if he isn't, he can be used to promote the game anyhow, as he would be easier then making a newcomer from scratch. Yes, some of Fox's special moves do act similarly to Wolf's but I think this can be worked around in this case.
2. Lucas, Lucas, like Wolf, was a semi-clone in Brawl which would make him a good choice for a DLC character, as much less work would be required to include him than others. However, some of his Specials were integrated into Ness's Custom moves, lowering put not killing his chances. Combining this with Sakurai's statement on dead(finished in this case) franchises not getting new characters, his odds are fairly slim.
3. Snake, Originally I though that Snake would have no chance of being a DLC character in the game if he wasn't in the default roster. However, he was the only cut veteran(not named Mewtwo) that was mentioned in the Livestream event. Yes it could have just been giving an example, but with Kojima's interest in seeing the character return, as well as the name drop, I think his chances are better than some people expect.
4. Squirtle, Squirtle and Ivysaur would make good choices as DLC characters as they are both very unique and would need minimal re-working. However, there are now six Pokemon characters in the game, and one of them is the DLC character, so I don't think their odds are as good as many people want them to be.
5. Ivysaur -see Squirtle
6. Roy, Man I loved Roy in Melee, but we already have four Fire Emblem characters, and one is already a clone. If he were to return, they would need to re-do him from scratch, which I don't find likely. Mewtwo only gets this treatment because he is so ridiculously popular.
7. Ice Climbers*, Arguablly the one character who got absolutely screwed out of there spot by Sakurai's mindset and hardware limitations. They will not be DLC characters unless the 3DS hardware issues are solved. IF they are solved though, these characters immediately jump to spot #1.
7. Pichu, The other Brawl Pokemon vets have much better odds, as Pichu was terrible and literally a Joke character.
8. Young Link, Literally an outdated Toon Link, isn't going to return.
New Characters:
1. Dixie Kong: Was supposed to be in Brawl, was heavily rumored for this title(despite no solid evidence), starred in a popular, recent title, and could easily be created using Diddy Kong as a template if need be. This would also fill the void in this title of having no new DK characters when the series has arguably earned more representation than it is receiving. She is undoubtedly the number one most likely new character to appear as DLC if any other new characters are to appear as DLC.
2. Chorus Kids, I have a suspicion that the Chorus Kids were planned to appear in this game at one point, and were likely dropped during development due to technical limitations just like the Ice Climbers(as well as other characters for different reasons, Chrom for example.)
3. Impa, If only for the constant rumors surrounding her inclusion.
I don't think new characters are very likely but I feel we will get at least one more and it will probably be Dixie Kong. So, in conclusion I believe we will get 3-4 new characters most likely being Wolf, Lucas, Dixie Kong, and of course Mewtwo. Stages are a whole different topic, and considering this post is far too long as is, I will just say that we are much more likely to recieve more stage DLC than additional character DLC.
TLDR: Dixie Kong, Wolf, Lucas and some stages.
> Lucas reskin for NessI feel like if we do get more DLC, it's gonna be more veterans than new characters such as Lucas and Ice Climbers for example. That being said, I'd prefer to see new characters with new move-sets. Y'know, I would still love to see Chrom as his own character...That would seriously be a dream come true. I'd say it's realistic, after all the love for Awakening. Hell, even if he was just a reskin, I would be satisfied. Another realistic character I'd love to see would be Bayonetta. Never played the games, but I feel like she would bring a lot to the Sm4sh. UNREALISTICALLY SPEAKING...I feel like Paper Mario, Waluigi, Majora, and Ridley would be pretty sick, but I think it's obvious why these characters aren't gonna make it.
And just for the hell of saying it... I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for some alt skins as DLC. I mean, it wouldn't take near as long to develop these character skins compared to brand new fighters. Seriously, just make a Lucas reskin for Ness, a Wolf reskin for Fox or Falco, Roy reskin for Lucina, etc.
And there are so many other reasonable possibilities...
- Dry Bowser for Bowser
- Daisy for Peach
- Dixie for Diddy
- Funky Kong for DK
- List goes on and on, too lazy to keep writing.
Take it easy, it's just an idea. I personally would rather more new characters than more semi-clones. I loved Lucas and Wolf in Brawl (especially more than their counterparts), but at this point, if we are going to get DLC, I think it'd be of everyone's interest to get NEW characters. No it's not ideal to get reskins, but it would be better than nothing.> Lucas reskin for Ness
> Wolf reskin for Fox
Get out, just get out.
Relegating veterans as alternate costumes, disgusting.
You know nothing of Wolf and Lucas if you think you can just replace them by alternate costume.
> WolfTake it easy, it's just an idea. I personally would rather more new characters than more semi-clones. I loved Lucas and Wolf in Brawl (especially more than their counterparts), but at this point, if we are going to get DLC, I think it'd be of everyone's interest to get NEW characters. No it's not ideal to get reskins, but it would be better than nothing.