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found this:

http://www.latintimes.com/articles/...se-date-news-marth-confirmed.htm#.UpRFpuJZ7IU

"it will be interesting to see who else Nintendo adds to the game lineup. Check out Marth in action in the avobe screenshtos from Nintendo for "Super Smash Bros." for the Wii U and 3DS. The latest Smash Bros. game was announced by Nintendo during E3 earlier this year but has yet to receive a release date. However, Nintendo did announce that the game is slated for release in early 2014."
 

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Another article (concerning the possible engagement between Peach and Mario) said that the game is slated for a Holiday 2014 release...which I'm assuming to be Christmas 2014.

"The new title was announced at Nintendo's E3 presentation this past June. The company didn't give a specific release date but announced the game would be coming Holiday 2014."
 

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Well if it's not out until the Holiday 2014 hard for me to stay hyped with it being so far out.
 

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A part of me was hoping for a summer release. But yeah I can't stay hyped until next Christmas. Too long of a wait and many other things to look forward to.
 

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To be honest, I think at the very worst it'll release during the holiday season of 2014.

Though, I'm really curious to know how far in development they are right now. Would anyone be able to estimate that? I imagine they make the stages first, then put in characters then make the items. and since they're showing items they might be pretty far along and near the end. I'm fairly certain development of a game is a lot more complicated than that, so I'm probably wrong in assuming this is the order in which it happens, or even if it follows such an order at all. If someone knows more about game development, I'd be interested in learning about how games like this are actually made.
 

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None of these articles know more than we do really, so I wouldn't take their words for it.
 

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To be honest, I think at the very worst it'll release during the holiday season of 2014.

Though, I'm really curious to know how far in development they are right now. Would anyone be able to estimate that? I imagine they make the stages first, then put in characters then make the items. and since they're showing items they might be pretty far along and near the end. I'm fairly certain development of a game is a lot more complicated than that, so I'm probably wrong in assuming this is the order in which it happens, or even if it follows such an order at all. If someone knows more about game development, I'd be interested in learning about how games like this are actually made.
This is interesting. We know that back in early June the game was complete enough for Sakurai to be confident enough to do a live match without fear of the game crashing or something seriously bad happening, he showed that very long direct of gameplay footage, and he mentioned that he plays four player matches every day during his lunch break. That leads me to conclude that the base engine, while perhaps always open to some tweaks, is fully functional and hahs been for probably half a year now.

In terms of the art assets, which are another huge part of game development, we've seen they are taking a lot of assets directly from other games for stages which will save a lot of time there. Characters all seem to be freshly modeled and animated, and between having to make everything high quality HD for the Wii U, scale it down for 3DS, and then make sure it is going to work well with the 3D on the 3DS, that's a lot of work.

Content in general is tricky to gauge because we don't know how much is actually going to be in the game, but it's probably pretty safe to assume that a lot more is in the game internally than we've been shown on the site. Implementing all the characters and stages is the vast majority of the work required on this front without the presence of a SSE style mode, and we've already seen what's probably a good third of the stuff on that front directly with everything we've seen appearing to be fully complete. How much more could remain unfinished really?

In terms of development time, we know it started roughly when Kid Icarus: Uprising released which was in early 2012. If it comes out in the first half of 2014, that's a two year development cycle which is fully reasonable especially with the massive team they have working on it and the fact that the project is being headed by a big workaholic.

The real verdict is that we can't know for sure where things stand, but it's reasonable to guess this game is pretty deep into development. A release in the first half of 2014 is entirely plausible; I kinda suspect they've been aiming for that all along and just announced the vague 2014 to give themselves a chance to delay it without having to announce a delay if they ran into problems.

In terms of the marketing thing, as a last aside, there's no way the game could be actually finished in the first half of the year and then they sit on it for half a year to sell it during the holidays. That would be business insanity; waiting half a year to begin collecting profits on an investment (and large scale game development is one big investment) is throwing away tons of money, far moreso than the honestly marginal boost to sales a holiday release would net over a release during the spring. This is doubly true when you consider that this is a Nintendo game, and those are well known in the industry for having incredible legs. That means that even if they do release it early, it's not like it's going to have stopped selilng by the holiday; they'll just build the sales with time like they do with every game. In other words, if it does come out around the holiday, you can be pretty sure it's because that's how long it actually took to make the game, not because they had a finished product they sat on for half a year.
 

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Damn, nd hear I thought this game was getting released in the spring of 2014. Well aint that bout a *****!

Oh well. Guess I could always look forward to Mario Kart 8.

No way it is coming out early this year. WAY too much needs to be done in the making of that game, not to mention that it would be far more profitable to wait until Decemberish 2014
Yeah, I guess it'll be worth the wait. Never want a rushed game. We all know the end result for things like that. Although CoD gets praised after getting released like every 10 months :-)
 

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No way it is coming out early this year. WAY too much needs to be done in the making of that game, not to mention that it would be far more profitable to wait until Decemberish 2014
Yes... I think early this year has already passed. :awesome:

In all seriousness, I am an adamant believer that the release date will be Q2 next year (when Nintendo cited that they would release noteworthy IP). The holiday season isn't a good time to compete with the other consoles that happen to actually be successful. There was also a leak (although it is irrelevant) that stated a May release was imminent, if I recall. This would also happen to correlate to previous statements associating the Wii U with Smash and the notion that they need a console seller, not to mention the omission of a SSE related mode. The game is clearly closer to completion than Brawl was when it was originally announced. So, in my opinion, everyone is going to be excited once the release date is much earlier than anticipated. I, on the other hand, will not be.
 

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Yeah, any articles that state the release dates are just guesstimating. I've also see them say around Summer 2014.
 

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Feb - Tropical Freeze
March - Smash
April - Mario Kart 8

While the Xbone and PS4 are trying to get their footing with getting decent games out Nintendo comes out on the heels of 3D World with these three titles making everyone who didn't include the Wii U in the next gen console wars look like an idiot.
More affordable, and better games out.
I'm expecting a huge increase in systems purchased during this time.
It is perfectly timed during the other two consoles waiting phases for more games
And then they drop the new Zelda for the holidays bombshell and hopefully a console Pokemon to make everyone lose their minds
 

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please link me to the site that says winter 2014, and do they have more credentials then the one I linked?

also if they announce a release date soon, I think it could help sells for the wii u THIS Christmas for people wanting to pickup the game day 1.
 

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Considering the game has been in development for what. 20-something months? It has already been in development for nearly as long as Brawl. Longer, after this next summer. I'd expect a summer release myself, unless they REALLY feel like shoveling content into this game.
 
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Things wouldn't end well if it was released early 2014. I can say that.
 

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Ok, so from what I can tell from these comments is that apparently the development for this game is a nearing it's end, at least enough to say that a holiday release is unlikely. Now considering that no release date, except for a vague 2014, that should mean that development is still not close enough to yet confirm a final end to it.

With this I guess I can say that the game should be 75% complete, enough to say it's approaching an end, but not enough to say when that end will be. So, that makes a Q1 release out of the question.

Now we have a Q2 or Q3 release as our most likely candidates. Early Q2 seems too close to not have a release date yet, while late Q3 seems too far for how far development seemingly is. So the highest probability is late Q2 and early Q3.

WHICH MEANS, the probability distribution function of the release of smash bros. with respect to time has the shape of a bell curve with the mean value falling between Q2 and Q3.

Now it's safe to say we have a good guess of knowing the approximate date, or at least a good range of dates, that smash bros can be released. Also, even though there's no statistical data and just a bunch of haphazard assumptions used to get my conclusion, I'm going to go ahead and say I'm right, and none of you should question me on that because I took a stats course once, and even though I failed it, I totally know what I'm talking about.
 

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Ok, so from what I can tell from these comments is that apparently the development for this game is a nearing it's end, at least enough to say that a holiday release is unlikely. Now considering that no release date, except for a vague 2014, that should mean that development is still not close enough to yet confirm a final end to it.

With this I guess I can say that the game should be 75% complete, enough to say it's approaching an end, but not enough to say when that end will be. So, that makes a Q1 release out of the question.

Now we have a Q2 or Q3 release as our most likely candidates. Early Q2 seems too close to not have a release date yet, while late Q3 seems too far for how far development seemingly is. So the highest probability is late Q2 and early Q3.

WHICH MEANS, the probability distribution function of the release of smash bros. with respect to time has the shape of a bell curve with the mean value falling between Q2 and Q3.

Now it's safe to say we have a good guess of knowing the approximate date, or at least a good range of dates, that smash bros can be released. Also, even though there's no statistical data and just a bunch of haphazard assumptions used to get my conclusion, I'm going to go ahead and say I'm right, and none of you should question me on that because I took a stats course once, and even though I failed it, I totally know what I'm talking about.
I dunno. Considering how long it's been in development and how much seems to be working, it seems reasonable enough.
 

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mario kart don't have a release date yet either but it be released in q1
 

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Sakurai is hiding the release date and will just one day tell everyone "the game is out starting now".
 

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Sakurai is hiding the release date and will just one day tell everyone "the game is out starting now".
They might announce a legit date during the VGX thing or whatever it's called. Trust me, I'm Sakurai :troll:.
 

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please link me to the site that says winter 2014, and do they have more credentials then the one I linked?

also if they announce a release date soon, I think it could help sells for the wii u THIS Christmas for people wanting to pickup the game day 1.
http://m.latintimes.com/articles/8643/20130924/super-smash-bros-4-release-date-news.htm#.UnuwNvnrxpk

As I said before, Holiday 2014 is highly likely Dec 2014.

I'm not sure about it having the same "credentials". Neither article had an author or cited sources. I was trying to make the point that any possible release date "rumor" is moot since they all give a different date. Plus, I'm hesitant to put trust in a random unrelated-Smash news site...especially with such a confidential secret as the release date.
 

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This tells us nothing useful.

Why would they release this early 2014? Mario Kart 8 and Donkey Kong Country Wii U come out then. They wouldn't want Smash to compete with those 2 games. Smash is the IDEAL game for Nintendo to release around Christmas time 2014, and it gives them almost another whole year to tweak it.

Also, since when has Latin Times been a credible source for video game rumours? Give your head a shake.
 

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I really hope Sm4sh releases on April of 2014...it would coincide with my summer vacation!
 

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I really hope Sm4sh releases on April of 2014...it would coincide with my summer vacation!
Summer vacation in April? Kids these days have it good. We had to wait until the end of May when I was in school!

Part of me hopes it's released sooner rather than later. On the other hand, I hope the rumor of August 2014 is true, as my birthday is on the 4th!
 

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Sorry, but I don't think it will. I checked myself, and Lego The Hobbit is releasing for 3DS and Wii U on April 8, 2014. I think that's the real game at hand, not Smash Bros 4.
 

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Summer vacation in April? Kids these days have it good. We had to wait until the end of May when I was in school

Might be talking about college and university- my summer break starts in April as well.

It'd be awesome if that were the case. I'd have all summer to just smash :]
 

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Summer vacation in April? Kids these days have it good. We had to wait until the end of May when I was in school!

Part of me hopes it's released sooner rather than later. On the other hand, I hope the rumor of August 2014 is true, as my birthday is on the 4th!

LOL I said April because that's one of the rumoured dates, I actually have my vacations in July, but what I mean is that I could play it during my summer vacation...getting a December release would be lame :I
 
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I'm not trusting any release date rumors at all. I don't believe things until I see them.

I'm expecting SSB4 to be released around the summer of 2014, around holiday season of 2014, or early 2015. (the last one CAN happen) I guess that we will have to wait and see.
 

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Well it seems that Gamespot has listed the game to be released in April of next year, so it seems something is going on, here is the link.
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Well it seems that Gamespot has listed the game to be released in April of next year, so it seems something is going on, here is the link.
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Interesting. I'm not in the loop with these kind of things, but how often are Gamestop's initial dates right?
 

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Seems like a placeholder tbh, just like usual
Aren't placeholder dates usually marked at the end of a month though? Which would mean 30th April in this case. At least that's my experience while waiting for Brawl to release in Europe.
 

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Well it seems that Gamespot has listed the game to be released in April of next year, so it seems something is going on, here is the link.
.n_n.
I'd be okay with that date. But if true that would also mean Sakurai would really need to speed up the character reveals.
 

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Damn if April is right than Mario Kart and Smash Bros within a week of each other would completely destroy any momentum PS4 and Xbone have... that would be a HUGE summer for Nintendo and will see incredible increase in Wii U sales. Smart from a marketing situation.
 
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