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Rate Their Chances Returns! Day 194: "Predicting the Direct"

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colder_than_ice

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Adam
Chance: 0% - He was a very poorly received one shot supporting character. No way he'll be considered.
Want: 0% - I just don't like him.

Two Donkey Kong newcomers
Chance: 10% - The rosters probably not going to be big enough for two newcomers from any franchise but Mario.
Want: 50% - I'm split, on one hand I like both Dixie and K. Rool, on the other hand there are at least five characters I want to see in before both of them.

Alph, Brittany and Charlie trio prediction: 0.3%.

Hanafuda representation prediction: 19%

Nominations: <10% character becomes playable x5.
 

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Two DK newcomers
Chances: 25% Unfortunately, it's looking like the roster will be limited in newcomers and while it's possible that they could go for this I think it's more likely that they'll appeal to a more wider range of franchises then just one. So due to that, I don't think this scenario is going to be in the cards for this game.

Want: 79% I really like King K. Rool, and from what I've heard Dixie is also a popular character many want so having both in would be the best scenario. Having said that, I do take off a chunk of points because I can't say I completely go for it as I think other franchises could be represented more evenly as well.

Adam
Shoots Samus in the back, -100% Chance and Want

...Ok, for a more serious analysis, I will give him credit for being one of the few characters to reoccur in the franchise and he is an important part of Samus' life (for better or for worse) via the backstory of Other M. However, that's where his good points end, he's not nearly that important relative to Ridley or Dark Samus as his role is limited to two games only, his mechanic is one of the most hated aspects in both Fusion and Other M, and to top it off, Other M really hurt his popularity, hailing from that game also does him no favors in that regard and he has very few requests from either side of the globe.

In short, a poor choice to represent the franchise in any aspect. 2%

Want: 0% The character himself I do not like, Fusion gave him a lot of potential and due to Other M's botched attempt it made the character very dislikable to me and is probably one of my least favorite aspects of the game (mechanic and story-wise). Even ignoring that, I don't really see a lot the character can bring that really gravitates towards me, nothing stands out to me about him. So due to that, he's probably one of my least wanted characters for this game.
 
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Adam:
Chance: 1%. "Hey, Metroid is a series full of creepy aliens and interesting creatures. Let's represent it with a generic army commander." - Sakurai

Want: 0%. Congrats, guy. You're the first person to ever receive a zero from me. That's what happens when you are one of worst aspects of the worst Metroid game.

Two Donkey Kong Newcomers:
Chance: 50%. This depends mostly on the size of the roster. If it around, say, 50 characters, this rating would be lower. But if it is even just a little higher, like 54 characters, then this rating would be a lot higher. As it stands, however, I shall give it a 50/50.

Want: 65%. Having not played DKC games that much, I can honestly say that it would feel slightly incomplete without both King K. Rool and Dixie Kong.

Alph/Brittany/Charlie trio Prediction: 6%.

Hanafuda representation Prediction: 2%.

Nominations: Ghirahim x5.
 
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Shulk dipping down in want is a bit upsetting… but I am glad to see his chance skyrocket to number 5.
Now… let's not nominate him again for a while unless a significant development affects Shulk, OK? (again, I felt as though he didn't need to be re-rated)

Adam Malkovich and Two DK Newcomers have been added to the Directory.

Adam Malkovich
Chance:
0%

This guy has no chance of getting in Sm-

I'm sorry Brawler, but you are unauthorized to give me a 0%.
I'm… unauthorized to give you a 0%? Oh… OK… I'll follow what you said.

REAL Chance: 100%
Alright! He is definitely going to make it into Sma- AW! WHO AM I KIDDING? I WOULD BE LYING IF I GAVE THIS GUY 100%! YOU ARE UNAUTHORIZED TO MAKE MY ORIGINAL RATING UNAUTHORIZED, ADAM!

You disappoint me. You know that I have higher chances than Shulk and King K. Rool!
Oh really?

REALLY REAL Chance: 0%
I am officially authorized to give Adam a 0%. As I mentioned before I got rudely interrupted, Adam has no reason to get in Smash. He has absolutely no demand to appear in Smash, no one is really pulling for him, and he is a part of an infamous gameplay element in Metroid: Other M.
Adam would be incredibly random to put in. Why put Adam in over Ridley? Heck, why put Adam in over Anthony Higgs? I will give Anthony the benefit of the doubt; at least Anthony Higgs is considered one of the best parts in this mess of a game. That smidgin of popularity could possibly push him into Smash. Even then, I doubt either of these two will get in over another Metroid character; after Ridley, there is Dark Samus and she plays an incredibly important role in the Prime games.
Overall, Adam… you are unauthorized to get into Smash.

You cannot behold the power of the Monado nor be as krool as a certain king, so don't you dare say you are more likely than them!

You are authorized to give me 100% in want! Surely you would love to see me regardless!

Want: 0%
Tremendous waste of a slot if he got it. Why put him in over other characters? Even with my near complete indifference to Ridley, I know that a ton of fans will be disappointed if this no-name got in over him.
Admittedly, there could be some hilarity if Adam could make characters have no authorization towards using their special moves, but that isn't worth it.
For the sake of the Ridley fans, don't put any Metroid character in before him, Sakurai!

Adam, I am authorized to give you double 0%s and you are unauthorized to be in this thread. Now I kindly ask you to leave or I'll have my pretty Princess, Samus, take care of you. Too-doo-loo.

I'm… authorized to make a comment but I don't know what to say…
Just leave… now…

This was a product of boredom.


2 DK Newcomers
Chance:
15%

The same rating that I gave to 4 DK Characters.
Donkey Kong does deserve to have 4 characters and the series has two amazing options with Dixie Kong and King K. Rool. They both deserve to get on the roster… though I can imagine that only one might get in.
Want: 100%
Hell yes. As long as it's Dixie Kong and King K. Rool, I'm happy! Sorry Cranky Kong.

Alph, Brittney, and Charlie Trio Prediction: .12%
Nearly impossible. They're too new and a three in one character is a lot of work… especially with the added on Pikmin. The effort wouldn't be worth it.
Non-Character Hanafuda Representation Prediction: 7.50%
Shot in the dark.

Nominations: Captain Rainbow 5x
 
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Adam:
What I expect from Metroid:
1) Ridley 80%
2) Dark Samus 12%
3) Sylux 5%
4) Rundas 5%
5) Anthony 4%
6) Adam 4%
7) Gandrayda 0.5%
8) Ghor 0.4%
9) Melissa 0.1%
10) Metroid 0.001%
11) Everybody else 0.0000001%

Adam gets a 4%

What I want from Metroid:
1) Ridley 95%
2) Dark Samus 50%
3) Rundas 50%
4) Gandrayda 50%
5) Melissa 50%
6) Sylux 10%
7) Adam 5%
8) Anthony 2%
9) Everybody else 0%

Adam gets a 5%

2 DK Newcomers!
Well, looks look at the 3 potential candidates and Funky Kong, just 'cause.
1) Dixie Kong 89%
2) Cranky Kong 55%
3) King K. Rool 30%
4) Funky Kong 10%
Taking the two highest together, evens out to 48.95%
However, there has always been multiple series getting multiple reps. And DK is the most able to do so. Fire Emblem, Metroid, and Kid Icarus could. But DK is the most likely to, so +10%
Which now means 58.95%

Want:
1) Dixie Kong 100%
2) Cranky Kong 80%
3) King K Rool 10%
4) Funky Kong 7%
Same thing. Want evens out to 90%

Predictions:
Non-Character Hanafuda Representation: 6.12%
Hmmm...
Pikmin thrio: 4.1%
I want it, personally. But it won't do to well.

x5 Once again, the lovely Tiki-wiki

...I hope KRool fans don't hate me now...
 
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Adam likelihood: 1%
Want: 5%

Two DK Newcomers Likelihood: 10%
Want: 50%

Hanafuda representation: 7.35%
Pikmin Trio: 2.1%

Unlockable newcomers x5
 

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Adam Malkovich: 0.5%
Want: 0% I would take Koopa Paratroopa over him. Yes, I hate him that much.

Two DK Characters: 10% I am expecting a 45-50 character roster. That isn't much space for two newcomers in the same series.
Want: 10%

Alph, Brittany, and Charlie: 0.2%
Hanafuda Representation: 9.99%

x5 Toon Zelda/Sheik
 

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-Adam Malkovish:
Chances: 1%
Want: 2%

-Two DK Newcomers.
Chances: 5%
Want: 50%

-Alph, Brittany and Charlie Trio Prediction: 0,4%.

-Hanafuda Representation Prediction: 7%

-Nominations: Chrom X5
 

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Well, it's spring break and I travel tomorrow, so unless I get some random free time, this might be my last legit, non-hurried rating

Adam Mal-- oh man, him? Eh
Chance - 1%
to account for the Sakurai madness factor. Something I like to keep in mind when it comes to Metroid reps.

Want - 0%

Two DK newcomers
Chance - 9.56%
I seriously don't remember what rating I gave the four DK characters thing, so I just put in random numbers.

Want - 100%
K. Rool in this game would be one of the best things ever. Throw in Dixie for good measure, and yea, I'll be pretty satisfied. The series deserves the attention, both characters in strong contention are legitimate Nintendo All-Stars ... This is definitely the best-case scenario.

Hanafuda - 11.4%
unsure of what to expect from people
Pikmin Trio - 1.3%
Louie eats them for breakfast. 'Cause that's what Louie likes to do: eat.

Nominations
x10 Balloon Fight stage (didn't use my extra noms yesterday I believe)
 

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Adam...I am not authorized to comment

2 DK Newcomers:
Chance: 40%
Firstly, the DK series is in it's prime as of right now having just had 2 successful console games and a successful 3DS port. Secondly, Donkey Kong is already underrepresented in Smash Bros. Seriously, only 2 characters after over 30 years of being a thing. Thirdly, there are several very popular candidates from this series who are both deserving and well known/liked.

Want: 100%
This would be the most perfect outcome for the series and for me.
 
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Adam Malkovich: 0%
There's no way he will be selected over Ridley or Dark Samus, or heck, even Anthony Higgs.

Want: 0%
Never played a Metroid game, a one timer from from a franchise that I know little about certainly won't interest me.

Two DK Newcomers:
Likelihood: 37%
I gave 50% to the idea of four DK characters. The only change since then is that the Tropical Freeze Direct passed without a mention of Dixie, so that brings down the scores a bit.

Want: 100%
Yes please.

ABC Trio: 0.6%
What the heck?

Hanafuda Representation: 8%

Wild Gunman x 5

Anyways, here are the updated Chant and Want charts with a font similar to the Smash 4 website font.

Chance 10


Want 10
 
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Wow, the Shulk overrating has gotten crazy! Going to be interesting if/when he proves to be this game's Isaac, because from my point of view he looks all too similar to how Isaac did pre-Brawl, and we all know how that turned out. I get the enthusiasm, but Smash history hasn't been friendly to non-Mother JRPG protagonists.

Adam Malkovitch - 0%
The idea of him getting in over Ridley (heck, even with Ridley) is patently absurd.
Want - 0% - Waste of a slot.

Two DK Newcomers - 5%
DKCR in particular was enough of a hit that it's easy to see a third DK character. Two newcomers, though? I just don't think there's enough space on the roster, unless our predictions are way off (certainly not impossible) or it ends up being quite a bit bigger than expected.
Want - 40% - I'm fairly neutral on this, leaning against: both Dixie and K. Rool have appeal, but I'd rather see more variety in my newcomers, and having two from one franchise doesn't really help with that.

Pikmin Trio Prediction - 0.12%
Not quite ridiculous enough to be worth predicting 0.03%, but it's not that far off.

Hanafuda Representation Prediction - 6%
Are people expecting this to suddenly appear the fourth go-around? Seems a stretch.

Nominations
50 or More Character Slots x5
 

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Adam:
Chance: 1%
He exists and is reoccurring. That's it. He's not got Ridley's popularity, he's not as charismatic as Anthony Higgins, nor as famous as Dark Samus. Also there's the whole thing about Japan not really being that into Metroid, so if a newcomer is to occur from the series, it'll be for the western fans, and they're pretty vocal about wanting Anthony Ridley.

Want: 0%
Ridley, Anthony and Dark Samus are all preferable to me and I'm hardly what you'd call a Metroid fan. Judging by Metroid fans reactions to the character a 0% seems pretty spot on.

Two DK Newcomers:
Chance: 20%
Since DK is bigger than Zelda in Japan(or as big as, I forget the official stats) it seems only fair to expand upon the series. I'd be very surprised if we don't get at least one, and I can see us getting an outside chance of getting two.

Want: 80%
Honestly I'd settle just for Dixie Kong, but I know how much others want K. Rool. Having both the tritagonist and the antagonist simply would please everyone...well, everyone but Cranky fans. We waited entirely too long for Diddy to be finally included, and I don't really want to see the rest of the DKC crew suffer from the same pointless exclusion for too long.

Predictions:
Pikmin 3 Trio:
2%
Recent and have access to Rock and Flying Pikmin, but less important and reoccurring overall than Louie and obviously Olimar.

Hanafuda representation: 35%
Providing it includes Trophies or stickers, I can see it happening.

Nominations:
5 X RTC Top Ten Member AT
 

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Adam
Double 0s
Ridley exists

2 DK Newcomers
45% Chance
100% Want
Dixie and K Rool basically. So yay

Pikmin 3 Trio 1.11%
Non Character Hanafuda 7.77%

Nominaying Lucas (The Wizard) x5
 

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Adam:

Chance: 3% - He's more likely than Anthony Higgs by being a reoccuring and important character that can do everything he can, but better. However, he's still not Smash material, and has a giant Space Dragon blocking his way.

Want: 0% - Ridley or bust.

2 DK Newcomers:

Chance: 20% - I'm not too confident that we're going to receive two newcomers for any franchise, however, if any franchise surely it'd be DK. With that said, the only way I see this working out would be with K. Rool as a prioritized newcomer and Dixie as a last minute clone.

Want: 80% - Don't really care for Dixie, so it's 10% down from my K. Rool want.

Pikmin 3 Trio Prediction: 1.27%

Hanafuda Representation Prediction: 22% - Perhaps, not sure why it'd get it now when it didn't get any representation in Brawl or Melee though.

Nominations:
5x Other M Ridley
 

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Adam Malkovitch

Chance - 0% - What little scraps that are left over from Ridley are consumed by Dark Samus and others. The only reaction we can expect out him is ourtright hate.

Want - 0.05% - Merly because it feels insulting to place him admist the likes of Sandbag and Scrooge. Even he doesn't deserve that.


2 DK charaters

Chance - 10% - Yeah, halving the score. Dixie took a huge hit with not being revealed for Tropical Freeze, and so it looks like she'll be left out.

Want - 70% - Yep, still the same. K. Rool is somewhat interesting, but I couldn't care less for Dixie Kong.


Predictions

The Pimin 3 Captains - 0.78% - Yeah, they're doomed.

Hanafuda Representation - 12.5% - Not certain, but no harm in guessing, right?


Nominations
Halcandra Stage X5
 

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2 DK Characters Chance: 15% I think the chances are slim, I think Dixie will be the only one making it in over K. Rool (I see him as a bonus character to add for later).
2 DK Characters Want: Only interested and predicting Dixie, even though she is less popular than K. Rool.

Alph, Brittany Chalrie Prediction: 7.3% The only way to make Alph unique, but people will illogically conclude with importance as the main factor, when it is clearly uniqueness. Also too new? :lucas: Right here for his merits. Alph, Brittany, and Charlie have their merits and have their uniqueness as a trio, plus there's a Pikmin 3 stage, so there's at least some consideration for a second even though community thinks we don't need it. Too hard to make? Ridley (whom hasn't been confirmed), Rosalina, and Olimar himslef says otherwise.
Hanafuda Representation Prediction: 14.56% It will improve better, but not enough to make it over 20%.

Nominations:
Here's a new one, this will fix off the popular logic and how it will do.
x5 All Popular Newcomer Candidates in the Final Roster
 
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Adam chance - 0.1%

I feel like I'm being generous....

Adam want- 0%

From someone who isn't really a Metroid fan there's only one character I'm remotely interested in seeing and that's Ridley.

2 DK newcomers chance - 7%

Can't really see the DK franchise with four reps. It's King K Rool VS. Dixie Kong.

2 DK newcomers want - 0%

I don't even really want one Donkey Kong newcomer let alone two. I'd be fine with either either K Rool or Dixie Kong, but not both.
 

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Right now, our least wanted character is Athena Cykes at 6.08%. Adam Malkovitch is on pace to get roughly a tenth of that want score.

...you are authorized to fail, Mr. Malkovich.
Pros and Cons?
I see, it's... spreading. My rating system really does have an influence, eh... Gotta step up my game!
Pros and Cons System
Pros:
+Quicker than full sentences
+Efficient and effective conveyance of data
+Great for understanding a situation

Cons:
-Lack of a detailed explanation
-Not as exhilarating as a courtroom battle

Chance 10


Want 10
WHAT. FONT?

Well, it's spring break and I travel tomorrow, so unless I get some random free time, this might be my last legit, non-hurried rating
Enjoy the break. Wish I had one, but the snow we keep getting here cannibalized that.
 
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2 DK Newcomers:
Chance: 25%
-I really doubt that we will be receiving two newcomers from the series even if both of the candidates are quite likely. It doesn't seem like this will occur, but this is the series that probably deserves it the most
Want: 0%
-I am not a fan of apes or monkeys, so I would prefer if we only had the two.

Adam Malkovich:
Chance: .2%
-I don't think he'll get in over such a popular character as Ridley. He is also from Other M, which we all know how well that was received...
Want: 0%
-Don't really know the guy too well.

Pikmin Captains: 1.2%
Hanafuda Representation: 15%

Nominations:
5x Jack Frost (SMT) (It would be surprising, but pretty amazing to see Atlus getting representation in Smash.)
 
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Adam Malkovich

2% Chance: It's a relevant character when Samus is wearing her Other M suit, but not one that easily leads to a set, nor one that is popular. In fact if Other M is currently being shunned by Nintendo and Sakomoto pegged by critics somewhere in a remote parking lot, I'd say Adam Malkovich is basically the fall guy. He's the most memorably bad part of the game's derided story.

Other M may not be the only game he appears in, but it's his biggest role and he really doesn't do anything that Anthony Higgs could not do.

1% Want: It'd be incredibly funny but nah, there are other obscurer Metroid reps I'd take over this one. I'm no Metroid fan but I watched the Retsupurae of Other M in its entirety, Adam is a horribly boring character and his main purpose is as a plot device. An assist trophy that pops out that players can laugh at would serve the same purpose with a fraction of the development time.

DK Newcomers x2

25% Chance: This is one of the big franchises that is fairly under-represented right now in Smash Bros. Metroid's representation consists of only one character, but two original movesets, Donkey Kong has two a-piece. This is a good example to use, as both series had big releases last generation. Other M, personified in today's rankings by Adam Malkovich, bombed, Returns was a huge success and preceded Tropical Freeze, whereas Metroid is back to the drawing board.

Donkey Kong is an incredibly successful series and has outstretched its current amount of playable characters in Smash Bros as far as what it deserves. Not only did Tropical Freeze just come out and was announced in the right place for Sakurai's consideration, it also had that DKCR port to the 3DS. I think that solely K. Rool is the most likely outcome.

I'm honestly not sure if I'd expect no DK newcomers over two, I doubt Sakurai would spend all that time on another one after K. Rool would naturally have taken up so much time to nail and finish off a comfortable trio of DK characters.

80% Want: I'd actually not mind a second newcomer as long as K. Rool is confirmed, he's apparently the most wanted newcomer around these boards and definitely for me.

However, this includes any combo of DK newcomers, so I basically have to put it high. Cranky, Funky, Chunky, Lanky... or any number of great DK newcomers and King K. Rool is one of the best things I can imagine. The series has already produced some of the most creative movesets in Smash Bros with Donkey Kong and Diddy, I'm sure Funky or Cranky, the ones that are likeliest besides Dixie, can be made really fun sets.

Alph, Brittany and Charlie Prediction: 3.5%
I've seen very low scores for Louie, who is by far the most likely of the other Captains, so a combo of three less popular ones isn't doing well.
Hanafuda Prediction: 1%
I really don't know what to make of this one.

Arino (Retro Game Master) x5
 
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The perfect military mind:

Chance: 0%
He's a joke, and only memorable because he's a joke... he's not getting in.

Want: 0%
AI Adam was cool, but they kinda ruined him (and everything else) in Other:M...



Donkey Konga-line of newcomers:

Chance: 25%
DK deserves it with his sales, but it's difficult to give it him because both major options have issues. Dixie doesn't have enough to differentiate herself from her boyfriend, and K.Rool is suspiciously absent from his most recent games... if the world was perfect they'd both be in, because DK's sales and importance to Nintendo both more than make it deserve 4 reps... but the world isn't perfect, or Slime would have been revealed already! :p

Want: 100%
I don't really care about Dixie, but Cranky or K.Rool getting in too would be great, whichever character it may be. I obviously prefer K.Rool, but beating people up with Cranky would be hilarious.



Spaceman Army!: 0.06%
Slightly more believable than Yarne Owaine... slightly...

Card games on smash bros!... cycles...: 17.2%
A mix of over inflation by Bluepikmin and deflation by the overly conservative slot counters... ultimately think it'll be infalted a little, but it'd be understandable at
least.



Slime*10
(Gooooo! I won noms! That's a slurprise! It's a blubbly shame it's not 8 noms, bec-ooze then I'd be able goo merge into a king slime!)
 

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Adam Malkovich

Oh boy…Where do I begin.

First off, you might be asking yourself "Who the hell is this guy, and what makes him so important and potentially unique to add into Smash Bros."? I feel as though many of you have encountered this thought whenever you've met with someone who seriously considered this guy to be the most logical choice for a Metroid rep. Why, do you may ask, is some sexist jerkass who's only purpose is to be Mission Control such a supposedly interesting character to the small groups of Metroid "fans" who believe Ridley to be such a ridiculous choice?

My answer to your questions is…I have no effing idea. There's absolutely no reason at all whatsoever to have the most hated man in Metroid get in over more deserving characters. Even Anthony Higgs deserves it better than him.


But the Too Bigots and "real" Metroid fans cry out: "But he's like one of the few recurring characters in the series!! That means he better qualifies than Ridley because Ridley's too big!!!!1!!1 D:<"


Two. He's appeared in only two games in the series, and the first one's a stretch because not only is he dead by that point in time, but that the Adam in that game is almost completely different from the one in Other M. So no, he is NOT a recurring character.

"Adam's like real important to Samus because, um, he's her father figure and stuff. So that makes him more relevant to Metroid than Ridley *coughtoobigcough*".

Oh yeah? If we're going by that logic, then why the hell aren't people clamoring for James McCloud from Star Fox? Or Flint from MOTHER 3? Those two characters played pivotal roles in their respective games, leading their children to becoming who they are as heroes, and were much better written. Where is their support?

Adam was only shoehorned into being her "daddy" because the writer-who-shall-not-be-named somehow thought to himself that this cool universe of deadly aliens and past civilizations wasn't interesting enough for his "avatar" to fit in. Samus's real adoptive parents, the Chozo, have had far more of an impact on the franchise's setting and helped morph Samus into who she is. Which planet was Samus raised on in her backstory? Who crafted the Varia suit that Samus wears? Who created the Metroids and Mother Brain? Now tell me who are her real adoptive parents.

Adam…well, we'll just have to take Fusion and Other M's word that he's been helpful to Samus in the past.

Now, Ridley has been extremely pivotal to the storylines in each Metroid game despite his admittedly small screen time. By killing Samus's parents and everyone else in K-2L, he's fulfilled the Chozo prophecy that a great warrior will come and destroy the intergalactic threats that haunt civilization (e.g. Metroids, Phazon, SA-X, Space Pirates).

Ridley has been around the franchise since the beginning, before Bowser was fully established as the main villain for Mario, and before Ganondorf was but a gleam in Miyamoto's eyes. He is also the foil to his arch-enemy in almost everything imaginable. Ridley is cruel, bloodthirsty, and unfeeling towards others, while Samus is altruistic and just, serving only to fight when it is necessary. They are both highly intelligent and great warriors, admired and feared alike. One cannot exist without the other, as they are meant to face each other forever (or until the Metroid series is cancelled for good).

"But…But…Ridley's too big?"

I'm not going to bother responding to that drivel. I feel I've spent too much time ranting on Adam's overall irrelevance to Metroid and the fact that there are seriously Metroid "fans" out there who think Ridley doesn't matter as much as Adam or Anthony.

Chance: 0.00000000001%

He has absolutely no chance in my book. But there is that slim, and I do mean slim, possibility he might make it in as a joke character. As a substitute for the sandbag.



Want: 0%

Do I have to repeat myself again? If Adam seriously makes it in over Ridley, then I'm boycotting everything Sakurai is involved in from here on.


Two new DK Newcomers

Chance: 45%

It could happen. Remember that Zelda went from being a one-rep series in 64 to having five in Melee? Or that Kirby suddenly got two newcomers from Melee to Brawl? With the massive success of DKCReturns and Tropical Freeze in recent years, I can seriously consider the possibility of both K. Rool and Dixie making it into the game.

Want: 100%

Hell yes! That would be a win-win in my book. They are both truly deserving characters, and deserve a chance to duke it out with the other All-Stars.
 

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Chance: 0.001%
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Two New DK Newcomers
Chance: 20%
Want: 70%

Pikmin Captains
Likehood: 3%

Hanafuda Concept
Likehood: 10%

Nomination
Concept - Seven or more villains playable x 5

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Adam Malkovich

One thing I'll give to him: I don't think The Other M was all bad. I mainly disliked the plot, and Samus's interactions with Adam Malkovich were one the worst parts (along with THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY). The gameplay was not bad though, and I wouldn't call it the worst Metroid as far as playing it nowadays (the original Metroid is not very fun to me as a modern player, but it was a pioneer). If it's the worst, it's partly because the standard set by the other games are so high.

Anyway, he's not popular and I don't see Metroid getting a newcomer unless it's Ridley. And if by some chance it's not Ridley, I'd expect either Anthony Higgs or Dark Samus.

Adam Malkovich chance: 0.01%

Adam Malkovich want: 0%
I'd be pissed to see this annoying character get in over Ridley.

2+ DK newcomers

I think the fact that Tropical Freeze's release has come and gone really hurts here. If Diddy had been revealed before Tropical Freeze, it would've been a perfect time to reveal Dixie, one of the most likely DK newcomers. But it also wouldn't have made sense to reveal K Rool then. But if Dixie and K Rool are getting in, they would've wanted to get Diddy out of the way earlier I think. Now they'd have to reveal both newcomers at random times (although E3 2014 will probably get more than one newcomer, so it's possible they could save K Rool to be part of the big E3 reveal and reveal Dixie at a random time). It is true that it is only the second series to have its whole cast revealed, aside from the singletons (Pit, Villager, Olimar and technically Sonic and WFT). So it has been set up for a newcomer to be revealed earlier than most other series (Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Star Fox, Earthbound). Then again, with a cast of two, this seems a much less important indicator than all four Mario characters being revealed in the first 3 months.

It's also unusual for a series to get 2+ newcomers. In Melee it happened with Mario (3), Zelda (3-4), Pokemon (2) and Fire Emblem (2), counting clones as full characters. This is mainly a reflection of how tiny the Smash 64 roster was, though. In Brawl it only happened with Pokemon (2-4) and Kirby (2). Mario, Pokemon and Zelda are the three highest selling series, and Zelda is the most critically acclaimed. Kirby just had poor representation through Melee. But now DK is still among the least represented relative to sales (it's the 4th highest selling franchise in Brawl) and importance (DK is huge in Nintendo history). So DK getting two newcomers is quite possible. But it sticking down at the 3 slot level also seems quite plausible. If DK still had only one slot, I'd say definitely DK should get two newcomers, but moving from 2 to 4 is less likely.

I would be surprised and annoyed if it got no newcomers though.

The last consideration is how many newcomers we'll get at all. Sakurai has revealed 5 newcomers so far, and 4 of them were from new series. It seems that perhaps he will favor new series over old ones, so maybe no series will get 2 newcomers. And even if one does, it might be Mario or Pokemon and not DK. But there isn't a lot of room if we'll be seeing fewer newcomers this time, as expected. If there are only 10, two DK would leave only 3 more slots for any other new series, a possible retro, Ridley, new Pokemon, etc.

Two DK newcomers chance: 13%
All in all, I am less optimistic than before. We're not getting a larger batch of newcomers than Brawl (18) or Melee (14, including clones), and most likely a smaller one. It could be larger than Melee's 8 unique newcomers though. I'd think 14 is probably the upper bound though.

Two DK newcomers want: 65%
If we get on the higher end of the roster size, I'd definitely like both K Rool and Dixie. But I'd be fine with just K Rool.

Predictions:
Pikmin sidekicks: 1%
Hanafuda representation: 10%

Nominations:
5x Paper Mario
5x 50+ character slots

For the first one I found 55% of 89%
And for the second I just found the middle of the 2, to give a higher score.
I was thinking more about the chance scores you were giving to all the Metroid characters and all the DK characters. The scores you gave for them actually imply that there's a 66% chance that we'll get at least two DK newcomers, if you're treating them as independent. I don't think they should be treated as independent, however (I think two more Kongs are less likely than a Kong and K Rool, since that would provide more variety and uniqueness).

Also thought it was crazy how you gave Cranky 55% and Funky 10%, but K. Rool only 30%. And Dixie 89% even though the evidence for her doesn't give that much certainty. She has fan demand (but K Rool has higher fan demand), her appearance in Tropical Freeze (which could've been used to reveal her, but wasn't) and the expectation of a DK newcomer (which applies equally to K Rool), and less interesting move set potential than K Rool.
 
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Adam Chances: 0%.
Adam: You are not authorized to give me a zero.
@ Depressed Gengar Depressed Gengar : Too bad, KingShadow time. Besides, Ridley exists.
Want: 0.%
Adam: Again, you are not authorized to give me a zero.
@ Depressed Gengar Depressed Gengar : Annoying human, I am the great KingShadow!
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Two DKC Newcomers Chances: 75%. We are guaranteed to see another one at least. Either way, Rool's near shoo-in and Dixie is pretty likely.
Want: 60%. Would like it a lot.
Drake's Crew: 0.5%. It's going to be lower than Alph's was, that's for sure.
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Err... Hanafuda Repping: 2.8%.
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Want 10
I love this but maybe now we can put Little Mac in a Champion space and move all the characters one place so we can still have 10 new comers on both lists (sorry If it sounds weird but I didn´t know how put in words).

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And Dixie 89% even though the evidence for her doesn't give that much certainty. She has fan demand (but K Rool has higher fan demand), her appearance in Tropical Freeze (which could've been used to reveal her, but wasn't) and the expectation of a DK newcomer (which applies equally to K Rool), and less interesting move set potential than K Rool.
Excellent post Erimir and I do agree with the majority of what you said, but this bit is something I've seen popping up a lot and everyone seems to have forgotten one important tidbit of info:

There was no way in hell they were going to introduce Dixie before Diddy.
Likewise they wouldn't introduce K. Rool before Diddy either.

I'm not saying Dixie WILL get in over K. Rool, but I think people take no Tropical Freeze reveal as a bigger strike against Dixie than it actually is. Again, this isn't aimed at you in particular Erimir, but it's something I've noticed a lot recently and it does sort of irk me.
 

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I love this but maybe now we can put Little Mac in a Champion space and move all the characters one place so we can still have 10 new comers on both lists (sorry If it sounds weird but I didn´t know how put in words).
I agree with this. This should be a list of how we rate potential newcomers, and now that Mac isn't potential, but real, he should not be on this list. Perhaps we should make a section with revealed newcomers/deconfirmed characters with our ratings next to them as a reference though.


On a different note, I still find it kind of hilarious how Ridley and K.Rool are looking at each other mind, I like to think K.Rool is waving, and Ridley's shouting 'hi' before they chat about old times and general villainy.
 
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I love this but maybe now we can put Little Mac in a Champion space and move all the characters one place so we can still have 10 new comers on both lists (sorry If it sounds weird but I didn´t know how put in words).

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Oh I understand.

You want Little Mac to be in a separate list, and make this one a list of Top 10 "Yet to be Confirmed" Newcomers.

Well, if Groose is fine with it, I don't have problem.
 

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Oh I understand.

You want Little Mac to be in a separate list, and make this one a list of Top 10 "Yet to be Confirmed" Newcomers.

Well, if Groose is fine with it, I don't have problem.
Yeah exactly, it will be helpful to see the new comers to come in both want and chance rate :D

@ Groose Groose are you fine with that idea, if not is alright.

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Excellent post Erimir and I do agree with the majority of what you said, but this bit is something I've seen popping up a lot and everyone seems to have forgotten one important tidbit of info:

There was no way in hell they were going to introduce Dixie before Diddy.
Likewise they wouldn't introduce K. Rool before Diddy either.

I'm not saying Dixie WILL get in over K. Rool, but I think people take no Tropical Freeze reveal as a bigger strike against Dixie than it actually is. Again, this isn't aimed at you in particular Erimir, but it's something I've noticed a lot recently and it does sort of irk me.
I am aware and I know that other people think this, which is why I've explained this multiple times.

It was not by accident that Diddy wasn't revealed before Tropical Freeze's release date, and that's where your reasoning falls apart.

Diddy could've been revealed whenever Sakurai wanted. Sakurai could've revealed him in November and Dixie for Tropical Freeze. So the fact remains that Tropical Freeze's release still would've been a great time to reveal Dixie, and Sakurai instead chose to reveal Diddy only. He had plenty of time to plan out the reveals.

The only thing is that it should've been obvious earlier that Dixie wasn't getting revealed for Tropical Freeze. Once it got to be February without seeing Diddy, it should've been clear she wasn't getting revealed.
 
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I am aware and I know that other people think this, which is why I've explained this multiple times.

It was not by accident that Diddy wasn't revealed before Tropical Freeze's release date, and that's where your reasoning falls apart.

Diddy could've been revealed whenever Sakurai wanted. Sakurai could've revealed him in November and Dixie for Tropical Freeze. So the fact remains that Tropical Freeze's release still would've been a great time to reveal Dixie, and Sakurai instead chose to reveal Diddy only. He had plenty of time to plan out the reveals.

The only thing is that it should've been obvious earlier that Dixie wasn't getting revealed for Tropical Freeze. Once it got to be February without seeing Diddy, it should've been clear she wasn't getting revealed.
I dunno, that still sounds kind of dumb.

Rosalina is the only one who has had some relevance to her reveal when it's come to tie in games and that was 3D World, which is vague at best since it wasn't even on the release date just 'around' it. Not exactly concrete evidence that newcomers are tied in to game releases.

Have I missed something important with Little Mac's reveal date?
 
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