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Rate my team (OU for the most part)

sweetxignorance

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Metagross @Occa Berry
Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
Bullet Punch
Explosion
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

I wasn't really sure what to assign EVs to, so I just copied this off Smogon. He's supposed to be my lead so that I can put SR up and try to cause as much damage as I can.

Togekiss @Leftovers
Modest
Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/104 Spe/152 Spe Atk
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Flamethrower
Roost

Comes in when opponents are paralyzed; continuous flinching

Slowbro@ Leftovers
Bold
Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe Def
HP Electric
Surf
Slack Off
T-Wave

Paralysis; killing Gyara (hopefully... I don't think I have much that can kill Gyara)

Machamp @Leftovers
Adamant
No Guard
EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/8 Spe
DynamicPunch
Payback
Stone Edge
Substitute

used for confusing paralyzed opponents; sub is there to prevent status

Jirachi @Leftovers
Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/ 4 Spe
Body Slam
Fire Punch
Iron Head
Substitute

paralyze; fire punch deals with scizor; iron head flinches

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 Spe
Earthquake
Knock Off
Roost
Stone Edge

goal is to hurt stuff when people are paralyzed

If you haven't noticed yet, my main goal is paraflinch with Jirachi and Togekiss and to confuse with Machamp

Please give me suggestions. I would appreciate it.

THANKS.
 

Gates

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Metagross @Occa Berry
Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
Bullet Punch
Explosion
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

I wasn't really sure what to assign EVs to, so I just copied this off Smogon. He's supposed to be my lead so that I can put SR up and try to cause as much damage as I can.
Use 252 HP/240 Atk/16 Spe instead. You don't really need the extra defense so you might as well make sure you break speed ties with other Metagross.

Togekiss @Leftovers
Modest
Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/104 Spe/152 Spe Atk
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Flamethrower
Roost

Comes in when opponents are paralyzed; continuous flinching
Why not just have TWave on him? You don't need Flamethrower since between Air Slash and Aura Sphere you hit everything for neutral damage or better anyway. This way you don't have to wait for Slowbro or whoever to paralyze your opponent's pokemon before you can start gaying sweeping them.

Slowbro@ Leftovers
Bold
Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe Def
HP Electric
Surf
Slack Off
T-Wave

Paralysis; killing Gyara (hopefully... I don't think I have much that can kill Gyara)
If all you're trying to do is paralyze and kill Gyarados, you could use any number of things. Try out Rotom-A with Discharge in this spot instead of your bro. Or you could give Jirachi Thunderpunch instead of Fire Punch to take care of Gyara and switch this to Blissey with TWave and Flamethrower to take care of Scizor instead.

Machamp @Leftovers
Adamant
No Guard
EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/8 Spe
DynamicPunch
Payback
Stone Edge
Substitute

used for confusing paralyzed opponents; sub is there to prevent status
This is fine.

Jirachi @Leftovers
Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/ 4 Spe
Body Slam
Fire Punch
Iron Head
Substitute

paralyze; fire punch deals with scizor; iron head flinches
This is ok but I hope you realize that he won't be able to paralyze Gengars or Rotoms that switch in on him. You have enough support that this shouldn't be an issue though.

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 Spe
Earthquake
Knock Off
Roost
Stone Edge

goal is to hurt stuff when people are paralyzed
A build with Taunt instead of Knock Off and U-Turn instead of Stone Edge would probably benefit you more as it seems like your team would have some trouble with stall and Gliscor can break stall easily.
Comments in bold.

You should look at a team in the smogon forums called "Ragequit.team". This is very similar to it and I think you'd benefit from studying that and seeing what they did differently from you.
 

Slashtap

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You don't keep it in against Rotom then.

If that ragequit team is by a user named Ragequit, I've decimated that guy. He then proceeded to cry in the chat.
 

Gates

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Air Slash/Aura Sphere fails to hit Rotom-A neutrally. Just thought i'd throw that out there.
Oh right, how could I forget lol. I was preoccupied with thinking about steel types, which I assumed was why he had Flamethrower. If he were concerned about Rotoms he would have put Shadow Ball instead.

You don't keep it in against Rotom then.

If that ragequit team is by a user named Ragequit, I've decimated that guy. He then proceeded to cry in the chat.
It's not named after anyone, it's just a really gay team that makes people ragequit.
 

Pink Reaper

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If you're worried about steel types that much you'd realize a neutral Aura Sphere will do **** all to most of them and only Lucario is OHKO'd from the "Still takes SE from Fighting" camp. Flamethrower is for the 4x weaks and SpDef weaks like Scizor which is im sure why you suggested it on the also suggested Blissey(which is ******** btw, since you have to predict the scizor switch in and devote more EV's to SpAtk than any blissey wants to use. Also blissey is terrible)
 

Gates

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If you're worried about steel types that much you'd realize a neutral Aura Sphere will do **** all to most of them and only Lucario is OHKO'd from the "Still takes SE from Fighting" camp. Flamethrower is for the 4x weaks and SpDef weaks like Scizor which is im sure why you suggested it on the also suggested Blissey(which is ******** btw, since you have to predict the scizor switch in and devote more EV's to SpAtk than any blissey wants to use. Also blissey is terrible)
Sorry, let me rephrase that: I was preoccupied with steel types because I thought it was what the op's concern was when making the set. I know that Aura Sphere will do solid damage against every steel type. That's why I said "you hit everything for neutral damage or better", I was referring to steel types. Should have made that more clear.

And the idea with Blissey is not to predict the Scizor switch-in but to predict a non-ground switch and TWave it and react accordingly. If it is Scizor (or Lucario or Metagross or another physical attacker weak to fire), Blissey can deal with it easily now since it's paralyzed and she has Flamethrower. If it's not Scizor, she can react accordingly. You don't need to invest many EVs into SpA to kill Scizor after rocks. 32 to 40 should be fine. You'll still have more than enough for defense/HP/SpD/whatever.
 

Pink Reaper

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Paralyzed most of those pokes can still threaten a OHKO(Scizor especially since he doesnt care about being paralyzed) Also you need i think it was 104 EV's to to do a minimum of 86%(max 102) to Scizor. That's not gonna do much to something like Metagross(Luke is just....luke)
 

Gates

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Minimum yes, average no. It's more consistent to go for the 100% certainty but if doing that would reduce Blissey's walling capabilities I'll take my chances on the low end of the spectrum.
 

Gates

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To hurt stuff when people are paralyzed apparently.
 

sweetxignorance

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Thanks for the comments.

Do you think Gliscor works with the rest of my team? I will probably keep flamethrower on Togekiss to take care of Scizor. Would I need another Pokemon with a paralyzing move?
 

The Real Gamer

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If you really want to paralyze as many Pokes as you can then you might as well put T-Wave on your Togekiss.

If you fail to paralyze some Pokes that Togekiss of yours ends up being pretty bad. Plus Stealth Rocks will destroy it from the get go.
 

sweetxignorance

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So... I changed Slowbro to
Celebi@Leftovers
Modest
EVs: 224 HP/40 Spe/244 Spe Atk
Leaf Storm
HP Fire
Recover
T-Wave

and Metagross to
Infernape@Focus Sash
Naive
EVs: 64 Atk/192 Spe/252 Spe Atk
Fake Out
Close Combat
Fire Blast
Stealth Rock

Should I keep it like this or should I change it back? I also realized that I can't seem to beat Mamoswine, Breloom, or Scarf Heatran very well...
It seems like most of my Pokemon are slow too...

I was also thinking about using Rotom-S's annoyer set on Smogon. Is that a good idea? If so, who should I replace?
 

NJzFinest

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Switching for an offenseive Celebi doesn't exactly beat Gyarados (bounce is gay) and you're losing your one actual wall while you're at it (seeing how pretty much everything is offensive based, this is a problem).
You can replace it with something like, a Vaporeon or at least make something else more bulky.

Also, have you been testing this team yet? Your questions should be more like "ok, I have problems with this, this, and that, what are some things to fix this", rather then "Hey is this good? Is that good? I'm going do this, please tell me if it's good".
 

UltiMario

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Your forgetting that teams to not have to be balanced. They can be bulky offense, like this team is.
 
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