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Spin Dashie

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You have a really good Sonic IMO, but your up-b will become pretty predictable after a while, especially if you cancel the landing lag. And your Sonic reminds me of mine, on the offensive most of the time. I rate your Sonic 8/10 as far as handling a lv 9 cpu. Keep up the good work.
 

Shoop70

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You have a really good Sonic IMO, but your up-b will become pretty predictable after a while, especially if you cancel the landing lag.
Ya, the problem is you can't really test predictability against lvl9 computers (they don't think like humans) which is why I'm sticking to online with friends to practice. But otherwise, I play about the same as you :)
 

OFY

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Ya, the problem is you can't really test predictability against lvl9 computers (they don't think like humans) which is why I'm sticking to online with friends to practice. But otherwise, I play about the same as you :)
Exactly. I would play online but the button delay still messses me up alot. I have another video here of me beating lvl 9 Ike and lvl 9 Marth on a team =]/

Ill upload that later
 

rushdown

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I can't tell if you're ******** or I am. There were definitely some moments of quickness/genius there. Short hopping, and the way you finished Pit off in the air definitely smelled advanced to me. But the shear frequency and predictability at which you used the Up B to down air was pretty horrendous. Had it not been for that rhythm, I would have said yeah 8/9 out of 10. But with it... Maybe 6/7 out of 10.

Spin dash to homing, I've never even seen before. Looks like a nice juke.
 

OFY

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I can't tell if you're ******** or I am. There were definitely some moments of quickness/genius there. Short hopping, and the way you finished Pit off in the air definitely smelled advanced to me. But the shear frequency and predictability at which you used the Up B to down air was pretty horrendous. Had it not been for that rhythm, I would have said yeah 8/9 out of 10. But with it... Maybe 6/7 out of 10.

Spin dash to homing, I've never even seen before. Looks like a nice juke.
********? I kept spamming Up B and Dair because it's a CPU. Trust I wouldn't spam it that much in a real tournament.
 

Shoop70

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Now that I think about it, is there really a standard for a "good" Sonic yet?...Maybe I just haven't seen enough videos or something, but I can't really think of a real scale to go by till we see more...thats just my 2 cents :)

EDIT: spelling
 

OFY

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Now that I think about it, is there really a standard for a "good" Sonic yet?...Maybe I just haven't seen enough videos or something, but I can't really think of a real scale to go by till we see more...thats just my 2 cents :)

EDIT: spelling
Other than me and Sonic Orochi. I haven't seen any other advanced Sonic users.
 

zamora

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you dont have any local players to play against?

idk... i guess against a lvl 9 computer your ok??

up-b can be out prioritized by alot of other characters...characters with range such as...Marth, MK, Ike, ud get ownd by lucas up-smash..Fox...falco

it seems your trying to play too much rush down than actual mind-games which sonic seems to be best at ( you can do a little both but try to stick to mind-games )

I know you cant play Mind games with the cpu at lvl9, and its stupid to play mind games with characters at lower levels.

try and practice combos on the lvl 9 computer, such as shorthop F-air (get that to auto-cancel) and then shorthop F-air again, if you get the timing right for the autocancel it should connect, then follow up with a reverse ariel or try n spring spike him if they got nocked off the stage.
 

OFY

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you dont have any local players to play against?

idk... i guess against a lvl 9 computer your ok??

up-b can be out prioritized by alot of other characters...characters with range such as...Marth, MK, Ike, ud get ownd by lucas up-smash..Fox...falco

it seems your trying to play too much rush down than actual mind-games which sonic seems to be best at ( you can do a little both but try to stick to mind-games )

I know you cant play Mind games with the cpu at lvl9, and its stupid to play mind games with characters at lower levels.

try and practice combos on the lvl 9 computer, such as shorthop F-air (get that to auto-cancel) and then shorthop F-air again, if you get the timing right for the autocancel it should connect, then follow up with a reverse ariel or try n spring spike him if they got nocked off the stage.
Man, I know about the the autocancel for the fair and I DO try to knock off my oppnent then using a B to knock him off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJhENn_SvU

In that video I used exactly what you just adviced me to use. Although I don't knock the CPU back with B, because I wanted to keep him alive.
 

Spin Dashie

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Ya, the problem is you can't really test predictability against lvl9 computers (they don't think like humans) which is why I'm sticking to online with friends to practice. But otherwise, I play about the same as you :)
That advice was directed at a human player. Its obvuious a cpu cant think for itself. I assumed he'd use the same stradegy, but I was wrong.

As for "good" Sonic players, look up LuCKy's videos. He has arguably the best Sonic today.
 

memphischains

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your learning, ill give you that.

define your definition of "good".
its such a vague word, expecially with a new game. your not terrible, if thats your ultimate goal.
 

DDM

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You spam the Up-B to D-Air the same way I do. I think you use the F-Air a little more often than I do...I've been trying to incorporate that more. Looks pretty good to me.
 

Nao Hikari

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pretty good tech, that side b to homing is pretty spiffy i'll have to start using that :D, love the spring spike on the fox vid. Overall i'd say 8/10 still need some polishing on your edge guard game and less up B to d-air
 

Boxob

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seconded :D
Not thirded, I have been doing that since the first day the game's been out and I'm sure many others have too. I'm not going to say you're terrible because it seems as if you have a basic idea of how to control sonic (and you definitely know how to upB to Dair >_>.) But I would never say you're 'good' seeing as you were extremely predictable, even excluding the upB to Dair crap. Try dash dancing and some good Nair> Dtilt > Uair combos ;D Now that's flashy.
 

Nao Hikari

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I'm sure other people have done it, but it's the first time i've seen it recorded in video...at least i think so .__.;; it was just done so consistantly that i remembered it and made note to try and use it next time i play
 

OFY

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It's not a new mind trick at all. Thanks though for praising my leechness =]
 

LuCKy

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Other than me and Sonic Orochi. I haven't seen any other advanced Sonic users.
are you and spin dashie the same person???


either way im pretty sure me and InterminOfZeal are pretty good............lol just sayin
 

LuCKy

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yeah that was dumb of me lol sorry about that......

but either way InterminOfZeal and me pretty much **** lol
 

ArakniD

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lol

Other than me and Sonic Orochi. I haven't seen any other advanced Sonic users.

lol....
but SonicOrochi doesnt get hit that much by Cpu Level 9's
against those me and you play about the same
I'm trying to have Sonic as one of my mains
its kinda hard but i've learned alot just by watching his videos.

Him, Izzy and lucky are the only REAL advanced Sonic users ive seen
 

Soloman

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Sorry to brake it to u but, showing against lvl9 bots is first day stuff when u are learning to play sonic, this doesnt show anythign at all. Bots cannot be compared to humans a bot knows u;re moves and reacts quicker than u. u may use combos that work awesome coolness on bots cuz they are capd off at a limit, they dont adapt, they predict through input based on their programming. Against humans. Wut u have shown is nothing but how to beat lvl 9's likes its a world first. hehz.
 

FrostByte

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The guy didn't say he was good so I don't see the reason in bashing him. I'm sure he just wanted a little critique. Is this how our Sonic maining/playing bretheren should be treated?
 

LuCKy

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Hey dude, i did apologize you know. I just wish I could record my games..
lol i did'nt know what you apologized for.....at first i thought you made this thread and thats what you were apologizing for.........then i realized what you were talking about lol

but i was telling the guy who made this thread.....me and intermin are good,since he said he had'nt seen any advanced sonic users
 
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