Rate my real team please!

[KrazyGlue]

Machamp w/Choice Scarf
4 HP/252 attack/252 speed
Jolly nature
Move set: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Ice punch, Dynamic punch

My lead is machamp with a No guard set. Nobody likes a dynamicpunch to the face, and the other moves get great all around type coverage.


Infernape w/Life Orb
128 attack/252 speed/128 special attack
Hasty nature
Move set: Close combat, Flare blitz, Grass knot, HP ice

Pretty much a standard mixape set. I didn't use stone edge because lower accuracy moves always fail me when it really matters.


Slowbro w/Leftovers
252 HP/252 defense/4 special attack
Bold nature
Move set: Surf, Ice Beam, Slack off, Thunder wave

Bulky water set, but not much to say.


Salamence w/Life orb
4 HP/252 attack/252 speed
Adamant nature
Move set: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Fire fang

Another pure physical sweeper that can really eat up a lot of teams.


Blissey w/Leftovers
252 HP/252 defense/4 special defense
Bold nature
Move set: Seismic Toss, Softboiled, Aromatherapy, Counter

Best special wall ever. If the opponent has no physical sweepers, they will suffer. Basic defensive set. Considering toxic; advice please.


Dusknoir w/ Leftovers
252 HP/204 defense/52 special defense
Impish nature
Move set: Will-o-wisp, Brick break, Shadow sneak, fire punch/thunder punch

A tough physical wall. Not much else to say. Can't decide on the last move (currently, I use thunderpunch). Advice? He's my main gyrados counter and FS finisher. His defensive stats and type allow him to switch in safely when needed.

 

[Niiro]

Ok, so lots of people probably think I'm a n00b because of that "Cheap team" thread. But like I said, I don't use that team. I use the following team, and it may not be creative, but I'm more of a team rater than team designer. Just wanted to say that I'm not a complete fail.

Infernape w/Life Orb
128 attack/252 speed/128 special attack
Hasty nature
Move set: Close combat, Flare blitz, Grass knot, HP ice

The feared mixape is my lead pokemon. I didn't use stone edge because lower accuracy moves always fail me when it really matters.

Ton of leads beat this, I dont even know where to start. This is a weak lead, and need Focus Sash and wants SR+Fake Out.

Weavile w/Expert Belt
252 attack/4 defense/252 speed
Jolly nature
Move set: Brick Break, Night Slash, Ice punch, Aerial Ace

Pure physical sweeper. Aerial ace over pursuit because I hate pursuit and all the prediction involved.
Why not Life Orb? Weavile is trash in the current metagame sadly, because of Scizor. Watch out.


Slowbro w/Leftovers
180 HP/200 defense/28 special attack/60 special defense
Bold nature
Move set: Surf, Ice Beam, Slack off, Thunder wave

A slightly different take on the standard bulky water set, but not much to say.

Passable. Explain your EV Spread plz.

Garchomp w/Life orb
252 attack/252 speed/4 special defense
Jolly nature
Move set: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Swords dance, Stone edge

Another pure physical sweeper that can really eat up a lot of teams. I may give him fire fang at some point. Advice?
WTF does Stone Edge do? Use fire fang/Sleep talk please.


Blissey w/Leftovers
252 HP/252 defense/4 special defense
Bold nature
Move set: Seismic Toss/Softboiled/Aromatherapy/Thunder wave

Best special wall ever. If the opponent has no physical sweepers, they will suffer. Basic defensive set.

Blissey wants Toxic over Thunder Wave, because you already have a TWer >.> Consider Counter.


Dusknoir w/ Leftovers
252 HP/204 defense/52 special defense
Impish nature
Move set: Will-o-wisp, Pain split, Shadow punch, fire punch/thunder punch

A tough physical wall. Not much else to say. Can't decide on the last move. Advice?

Fire Punch definatly. Why? Because its awesome like that.


So, as you can see, I'm not very creative at all, but at least the team is decent. I might try to post some more original teams in the future.

Comments in Bold

If you plan on using this in the Smogon Ladder, change Garchompz plz.

Scizor bends this team over a barrel and ***** it.
78/100

 

[c3gill]

Decent Mixnape, but that shouldnt be your lead.

Aerial Ace is terrible on Weavile, it only hits bugs, and most bugs youd want to hit are Bug/Flying, So Ice Punch does more damage. Not having Ice Shard means that a DDing Mence outspeeds you more often, so your dying from that. Weavile is my teams lead, and lead weaviles typically act as if they are carrying a FS (and really have an expert belt!)- yours doesnt do that. You need LO, or Choice Band.

Your slowbro is pretending to be a Physical Wall? what is up with that EV spread? you need more Def and more HP.

Chomp isnt legal, so if you plan on using it your going to be in Ubers (good luck with this team!) in ubers, the thing that makes Chomp special is its decent speed. throw a Scarf on this baby, and EQ, Outrage, Sleep talk, and Stone Edge. If your not playing Ubers, replace this dude with Mence or Flygon, depending on if you wanna Dance or be Banded.

blissey- listen to niiro

Noir- Shadow Sneak, not Shadow Punch. Thunderpunch, because your team doesnt fear grass or bug, but it does fear water pokes.

 

[KrazyGlue]

What should I lead with, then?I guess I'll lead with weavile. The team has been somewhat updated.

 

[Niiro]

TTar (sashed/lum), Scizor (with Focus Sash), Machamp, any scarf pokemon.

 

[c3gill]

What should I lead with, then?I guess I'll lead with weavile. The team has been somewhat updated.

Weavile is STUPID hard to lead with. While I might get 3 lead kills out of 10 games, I am sacrificing my pokemon. If I had to pick one already on your team I would say slowbro.

Niiro suggest Ttar, which makes a fun and great lead, but your team doesnt like SS. Machamp could be a decent lead for you, or you could try a Bronzong lead.......

 

[KrazyGlue]

Actually, I like the idea of leading machamp. I'll update.

 

[sonic 12111]

uhh for machamp eq or somethin like payback over fire punch. ice punch covers grass types, thunder punch keeps most yanemgas away and dynamic punch covers everything else firepunch covers

 

[KrazyGlue]

uhh for machamp eq or somethin like payback over fire punch. ice punch covers grass types, thunder punch keeps most yanemgas away and dynamic punch covers everything else firepunch covers

Yeah, I was just thinking that fire punch has 300 power against scizor but I guess 150 power with definite confusion from dynamic punch works too.

 

[Zeadro]

One, Salamance = ********, two Garchomp= VERY ********! You see don't focus on the tier list. Dude the tier list sucks and should never have been brought to life. Just use your favorite pokemon. For example my team: Pidgeot, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Empoleon, Zapdos, Moltres. I chose Zapdos becuase he is awesome, and becuase he is the only electric bird pokemon. Moltres Is beautiful and kicks a blazikens but across the floor. (I use bird pokemon) Therefore i suggest only favorites. And none of you better be a smartass and say (Typical idiot response) Well all my favorite pokemon ares UBER legendaries. A-DUH! There case closed!

 

[karthik_king]

Tyraniboah would destroy Zeadro's team. just saying. Hey crazy gue want to play on shoddy

 

[KrazyGlue]

One, Salamance = ********, two Garchomp= VERY ********! You see don't focus on the tier list. Dude the tier list sucks and should never have been brought to life. Just use your favorite pokemon. For example my team: Pidgeot, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Empoleon, Zapdos, Moltres. I chose Zapdos becuase he is awesome, and becuase he is the only electric bird pokemon. Moltres Is beautiful and kicks a blazikens but across the floor. (I use bird pokemon) Therefore i suggest only favorites. And none of you better be a smartass and say (Typical idiot response) Well all my favorite pokemon ares UBER legendaries. A-DUH! There case closed!

Umm... I'm not using garchomp anymore... plus, you have 5 flying types. TTar+rock polich=lose. Swampert=lose. Latios/Latias=lose. Favorites is fun, but not really good for battles.

 

[KrazyGlue]

Tyraniboah would destroy Zeadro's team. just saying. Hey crazy gue want to play on shoddy

I dunno... I haven't used it before... I could try it...

 

[karthik_king]

do you know how to get on and stuff like that?

 

[Niiro]

One, Salamance = ********, two Garchomp= VERY ********! You see don't focus on the tier list.
Ur an idiot, what the hell are you trying to say?
Dude the tier list sucks and should never have been brought to life. Just use your favorite pokemon. For example my team: Pidgeot, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Empoleon, Zapdos, Moltres. I chose Zapdos becuase he is awesome, and becuase he is the only electric bird pokemon. Moltres Is beautiful and kicks a blazikens but across the floor. (I use bird pokemon) Therefore i suggest only favorites.
some people here think winning is fun. you should try it. And none of you better be a smartass and say (Typical idiot response) Well all my favorite pokemon ares UBER legendaries. A-DUH! There case closed!
i am running out of insults here. you might not like winning, but that doesnt mean nobody else wants to, so keep your stupid ideology to yourself.

ignore the guy i quoted.

 

[c3gill]

One, Salamance = ********, two Garchomp= VERY ********! You see don't focus on the tier list. Dude the tier list sucks and should never have been brought to life. Just use your favorite pokemon. For example my team: Pidgeot, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Empoleon, Zapdos, Moltres. I chose Zapdos becuase he is awesome, and becuase he is the only electric bird pokemon. Moltres Is beautiful and kicks a blazikens but across the floor. (I use bird pokemon) Therefore i suggest only favorites. And none of you better be a smartass and say (Typical idiot response) Well all my favorite pokemon ares UBER legendaries. A-DUH! There case closed!

what if salamence and garchomp are my favorite pokemon, and thats why i use them? this thought process doesnt work. In brawl if you pick a low tier character, you can easily overcome your disadvantage by CP a stage that benifits you- in pokemon, if you try to play NU pokes in a OU or Uber environment, your going to get rocked.

Your little "play my favorites" strategy may be working for people who dont care about winning, but for those of us interested in furthering the current meta-game, your strategy is a failure.

by the way, someone mentioned Boah- what about some old-school McIceGar? that rocks his team too, lol.... oh wait, any one pokemon who can learn bolt-beam combo wins.

I dunno... I haven't used it before... I could try it...

never used BOAH!?!?!?! go play GSC!

 

[WouW]

One, Salamance = ********, two Garchomp= VERY ********! You see don't focus on the tier list.
Dude the tier list sucks and should never have been brought to life. Just use your favorite pokemon. For example my team: Pidgeot, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Empoleon, Zapdos, Moltres. I chose Zapdos becuase he is awesome, and becuase he is the only electric bird pokemon. Moltres Is beautiful and kicks a blazikens but across the floor. (I use bird pokemon) Therefore i suggest only favorites. And none of you better be a smartass and say (Typical idiot response) Well all my favorite pokemon ares UBER legendaries. A-DUH! There case closed!

Wait, apparently we are ******** even if only we use it because it is OUR favorite? Salamence and Garchomp are not just good, they are badass as well. Also, our teams are partially influenced by favoriting - otherwise every team would be *insert 6 extremely common OU pokes here*. There's a reason the OU tier has 50 pokés, and not 6.
The tier list apparently sucks ****. One, that's opinionated. Two, it actually does make sense as your team probably gets ***** by anything competitive. Tiers exist for a reason. Hell, you failed to use the right format when posting a team here, and therefore you're not competitive, and as you're not competitive you should just get the **** out of this subforum. I repeat, gtfo this subforum.
Also, we apparently are dumb for being a smartass. Ty for the wtf logic.
Also, idiot response. Typical usually has bad grammar.

 

[KrazyGlue]

do you know how to get on and stuff like that?

I just made my first team, but I don't know how to battle people...

 

[KrazyGlue]

never used BOAH!?!?!?! go play GSC!

No, never used shoddy. I love boah.

 

[karthik_king]

Oh then Register a username please use KrazyGlue and create your own secret pass word on the SMOGON server.

Then log on and you will see a screen with a chatroom and a list of people on the right side.

 

[karthik_king]

accept my challenge

 

[Niiro]

a)he wont challenge you
b)stop challeging everyone who disagrees with you
c)dont double post
e)dit boah is trash

 

[Circa]

This team is actually pretty decent, although I do have a couple of ideas to throw out there to make some members of your team more reliable. For Infernape, I'd put serious thought into exchanging flare blitz for flamethrower. Mixing flare blitz with life orb on a nape is almost like trying to create your own suicide bomber, and the reasoning behind the death is probably about as redundant as well, considering the fact that you could probably do about the same amount of damage with a lot less punishment. Flamethrower is weaker, yes, but it's still strong and will more than likely still get the job done for what you needed it to do. Plus, it will live longer on average, and that's ALWAYS a plus. The other main thing I can tell you is the thing I mentioned when I was watching you fight that other guy when he was using his Dusknoir. Pain Split. It's a very good move, especially when put on something which such horrid hp like Dusknoir. I can't tell you what move to get rid of for it, though, although I'd personally take out brick break. You already have two fighting types in your group as it is, and they're both powerful, so they can cover that area pretty decently already.

Although an unoriginal team, it does carry a lot of good aspects that can make it really good as long as its used right. So apart from the things I mentioned, good job.

 

[KrazyGlue]

Thanks, timssu.

I still like flare blitz, it really scares people (which can really help) and it's unlikely to die from it unless I kill 3+ enemy pokemon or I get hit and then use it. It just packs more of a punch.

As for dusknoir, I'm thinking of taking him out. He's just not filling the role that I wanted him to fill. If I keep him, I probably will put pain split in. But despite his horrible hp base stat, he has 294 (passable) right now because I maxed the EVs there.

I'm reluctant to change my team because it's been pretty successful (30-19) but I think other ghost types could do better than dusknoir. Then again, he takes down some important pokemon, such as gyrados. What does everyone suggest?

 

[Niiro]

Ok, so lots of people probably think I'm a n00b because of that "Cheap team" thread. But like I said, I don't use that team. I use the following team, and it may not be creative, but I'm more of a team rater than team designer. Just wanted to say that I'm not a complete fail.

Machamp w/Choice Scarf
4 HP/252 attack/252 speed
Jolly nature
Move set: Earthquake, Thunder punch, Ice punch, Dynamic punch

My lead is machamp with a No guard set. Not much to say, except that he's a beast who kills on average 3 enemy pokemon.

Change the set to:
EQ/Stone Edge/Ice or Thunder or Fire Punch/ Dynamic Punch

Infernape w/Life Orb
128 attack/252 speed/128 special attack
Hasty nature
Move set: Close combat, Flare blitz, Grass knot, HP ice

Pretty much a standard mixape set. I didn't use stone edge because lower accuracy moves always fail me when it really matters.

Fire Punch over Flare Blitz unless you like seeing big numbers like 300%

Slowbro w/Leftovers
252 HP/252 defense/4 special attack
Bold nature
Move set: Surf, Ice Beam, Slack off, Thunder wave

Bulky water set, but not much to say.

This is one member of the team that imo, needs to go. Replace it with Scizor or some ****, to revenge things.

Salamence w/Life orb
4 HP/252 attack/252 speed
Adamant nature
Move set: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Fire fang

Another pure physical sweeper that can really eat up a lot of teams.
Fine


Blissey w/Leftovers
252 HP/252 defense/4 special defense
Bold nature
Move set: Seismic Toss, Softboiled, Aromatherapy, Counter

Best special wall ever. If the opponent has no physical sweepers, they will suffer. Basic defensive set. Considering toxic; advice please.

Remove either ST or Counter

Dusknoir w/ Leftovers
252 HP/204 defense/52 special defense
Impish nature
Move set: Will-o-wisp, Brick break, Shadow sneak, fire punch/thunder punch
fine

A tough physical wall. Not much else to say. Can't decide on the last move. Advice? He's my main gyrados counter and FS finisher. His defensive stats and type allow him to switch in safely when needed.



So, as you can see, I'm not very creative at all, but at least the team is decent. I might try to post some more original teams in the future. I'm trying to get a new pokemon in, but I'm not sure who to take out...

Not a bad team. needs more team strat. 73/100

 

[KrazyGlue]

Thanks Niiro.

I got rid of seismic toss for toxic on blissey and I'm working on a replacement for slowbro. But I refuse to get rid of flare blitz. I'm also not sure about stone edge... it always misses for me...

 

[Niiro]

no guard....

 

[KrazyGlue]

no guard....

Oh, right.

Lol.... that was stupid of me.

 

[Circa]

Thanks, timssu.

I still like flare blitz, it really scares people (which can really help) and it's unlikely to die from it unless I kill 3+ enemy pokemon or I get hit and then use it. It just packs more of a punch.

As for dusknoir, I'm thinking of taking him out. He's just not filling the role that I wanted him to fill. If I keep him, I probably will put pain split in. But despite his horrible hp base stat, he has 294 (passable) right now because I maxed the EVs there.

I'm reluctant to change my team because it's been pretty successful (30-19) but I think other ghost types could do better than dusknoir. Then again, he takes down some important pokemon, such as gyrados. What does everyone suggest?

Nicht zu danken.

Hmmm...alrighty. I guess I can see that. I like to play a bit of a switching game to minimalize damage, so usually I do get hit when switching in Infernape. But then again, that's just the way I play as compared to you.

Like Niiro said, I'd take out Slowbro before I'd take out Dusknoir if getting rid of anything defensive. Slowbro's good and all, but for the most part your Dusknoir is actually more of a threat. Actually...I honestly found Dusknoir to be the sturdiest and possibly most reliable thing on your team, even without pain split. It usually has rather monstrous defenses, and no one ever liked being will-o-wisped in the first place, so people are usually initially threatened by it when it enters play.

As for everything else, I agree with Niiro. I sort of forgot about what No Guard did as well when thinking of moveset. XD

 

[woody72691]

not bad man, Machamp is a decent opener but your dusknior should use fire punch, helps in the long when the enemy is burnt cause u already have a pokemon that can cause parlayzis

 

[Circa]

not bad man, Machamp is a decent opener but your dusknior should use fire punch, helps in the long when the enemy is burnt cause u already have a pokemon that can cause parlayzis

Thunderpunch on Dusknoir isn't for the sake of causing paralysis, but for the type coverage. Apart from thunder wave on the Slowbro, he has absolutely no other electric-type moves in his entire team, and the one that does exist doesn't even do damage. He already has a fire-type sweeper and another sweeper that already knows a fire-type move, however.

Thus, thunderpunch is his more logical choice for type coverage. Plus, the dusknoir knows will-o-wisp, so it's not like attempting to burn with fire punch will help it anyway. If anything, it'd just be stupid.

 

[woody72691]

Thunderpunch on Dusknoir isn't for the sake of causing paralysis, but for the type coverage. Apart from thunder wave on the Slowbro, he has absolutely no other electric-type moves in his entire team, and the one that does exist doesn't even do damage. He already has a fire-type sweeper and another sweeper that already knows a fire-type move, however.

Thus, thunderpunch is his more logical choice for type coverage. Plus, the dusknoir knows will-o-wisp, so it's not like attempting to burn with fire punch will help it anyway. If anything, it'd just be stupid.

guess i didnt read all the way through. i usually skim and people point out my errors. i usually go for the high power moves. i want the match to end quickly half the time.

sorry for the errors

 

[KrazyGlue]

Thanks woody and timssu.

For a while I though the rating room was dead XD.

I'm still working on a replacement for slowbro. Some of my ideas are: zapdos, swampert, gyrados, metagross, and scizor. Opinions, anyone?

After testing toxic on shoddy, I decided that with toxic I don't really have enough firepower to finish anyone off, especially if the other person is using an aromatherapist. Plus, steels are way more common than ghosts, and they would kill me w/o seismic toss (actually, most beat this set anyway XD).

 

[woody72691]

Krazyglue go and please rate my team. i think u should go with metagross idk u just love his god like defense