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Rate my Marth!

Shaya

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Your approach is completely one dimensional and if you were fighting anyone who knew how to SHIELD they would absoloutely obliterate your fair spam.
Your approach causes you to not space properly, you barely even tippered your fairs while spamming away with them, if you're going to be doing such an approach if you're closer than your tip range you CAN get shield grabbed.

This is based on watching your last two (hence 'newest') videos. Rushing off the edge spamming fairs will most likely not work as well as it did in Melee either.

Among other things you used dancing blade maybe twice in those two videos combined.
Everything else (and your whole game) is just fair fair fsmash. I'd like to see how you'd actually fair (get it? :)) against BETTER opponents.

Oh and you also liked to spam dtilt. This really shows that your opponents just don't know how to shield and like to rush into your fully charged shieldbreakers or other moves.
 

chaos_

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wow that rob was a noob your marth is pretty bad start spacing don't spam f-air if you going to keep missing . Grab release up-b is a nice move. TO SHEILD PRESS R-L!!!!. it seems like you only use 2 moves.
dont counter unless u can predict nice. air dodge does nothing when you get knocked away use ariels instead. start facing good people. u just rush your attacks how about timing them instead oh and a good start is f-throw f-smash right after i think its auto sweet spot on most characters
 

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wow that rob was a noob your marth is pretty bad start spacing don't spam f-air if you going to keep missing . Grab release up-b is a nice move. TO SHEILD PRESS R-L!!!!. it seems like you only use 2 moves.
dont counter unless u can predict nice. air dodge does nothing when you get knocked away use ariels instead. start facing good people. u just rush your attacks how about timing them instead oh and a good start is f-throw f-smash right after i think its auto sweet spot on most characters
lmao. hu r u?

anyways don't listen to this guy's advice... grab release up-b does not work on rob and f-throw f-smash is terrible against an opponent that knows how to DI (more damage from f-throw DB).

and trying to grab with marth to set that up is ridiculous. marth's grab game is reactionary and not proactive like some other characters. that doesn't mean you can't grab outside of a shield grab but... it's not recommended as an approach.

what he said about the rob and you sucking is well... true. the rob is absolutely terrible and it's hard to explain everything that's wrong without you playing someone decent.

i honestly think you'll get better practice trying to 3 stock a level 9 metaknight. you'll learn spacing and how you can't just rush down every time.
 

chaos_

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lmao. hu r u?

anyways don't listen to this guy's advice... grab release up-b does not work on rob and f-throw f-smash is terrible against an opponent that knows how to DI (more damage from f-throw DB).

and trying to grab with marth to set that up is ridiculous. marth's grab game is reactionary and not proactive like some other characters. that doesn't mean you can't grab outside of a shield grab but... it's not recommended as an approach.

what he said about the rob and you sucking is well... true. the rob is absolutely terrible and it's hard to explain everything that's wrong without you playing someone decent.

i honestly think you'll get better practice trying to 3 stock a level 9 metaknight. you'll learn spacing and how you can't just rush down every time.
lol i just tried to give him advice i never faced a rob and i said f-throw if hes going to face people that don't know how to di but really don't use it
 

Rovl

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alright. thanks for the input. The latest vid i put was from like 2 months ago. im better now. i use more ftilt and utilt and ALOT of DB.
 

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o.O F-smash is not a viable edgeguard in the least. DS out of shield is **** to the max. You need to fight people who know what they are doing before you post any more videos.
 

chaos_

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o.O F-smash is not a viable edgeguard in the least. DS out of shield is **** to the max. You need to fight people who know what they are doing before you post any more videos.
or just go to tourneys if u don't know anybody that's good
 

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That too I guess... But I know from experience that that is easier said than done, I haven't found a tourney in my area that I could go to since I've been looking for one (about May).
 

DarkRunner00

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yeh.

we can't fully judge your Marth if you're playing mediocre -> crap hole players. No offense.
That ROB didn't know what he was doing, he didn't know the match up... and so forth.

learn your spacing. and learn different approaches. You spammed fair, and you did double fairs too often... it wasn't pretty especially since you didn't hit or shadow hit him. (and shadow hitting isn't even good)

As junk said, Marth's grab game with the exception of those with a f-throw (chain) or death combo. and grab release combo set up... is poor. Shield grab only. If they get too close and lag cause you shield or even better perfect shielded, well grabbing is a good way to GTFO.

Don't shieldbreaker unless you notice your opponent shield a lot, and you've connected a DB combo or a Fsmash to their shield. THAT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU SHOULD DEPEND ON SB.

Short hop. please.

When you Fair approach, DI AWAY FROM THEM... don't follow up. they will punish you.

on occasion weaken their shield first and punish them, since they won't want to use their shields for a bit.

the counters you performed were pretty bad. Don't counter early. Counter comes out pretty fast, and correct me but it comes out as fast as invincibility frames from AD... so yeah learn to time it.


learn to dtilt and dmash, rather than spamming fsmash. in the zelda match, you only dtilted when it was useless and ??? iono why you even did that. EDIT: so in the ROB rematch you quit spamming Fsmash... and replaced it with dtilt. it was working, but that ROB isn't that good. still didn't get better.

dtilt can be viable and followed up my DB. or what ever is appropriate.

DB up is reliable to combo, if you didn't know. DB down, is good for edgeguarding, and DB neutral is overall reliable for knockback off stage.

In the 2nd ROB match and other matches, you used Nair pretty well. tipped a lot of them.

Learn spacing, more approaches, and set up. You do about 5 moves. Oh, and WALK MORE.
 
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