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Rate my Marth Please

elvenarrow3000

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I would shield a little less and cut down on the full jump/double jump approaches. Other than that, your Marth is doing well =)

EDIT: Oh, and work on your movement a little. Dashdancing and stuff like that.
 

Ndot

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I'd say we cant really rate your Marth based on this video because of the fact that your skill is clearly dominant over the people you faced in this crew battle. So it looks like everything you do is almost perfect.

To get better rates or to see what to fix, you need a video where someone is in the same range of skill as yourself, so that it requires you both to go all out.

From what I saw though, you need to wavedash out of shield to grab or w/e, I noticed you tried to grab when IC's spaced their fsmash and you missed, this shouldnt of happened if you did wavedash out of shield to grab. Also, you almost always do this one thing, you dash towards your opponent then wavedash back then jump or fair. You need to change that up a bit, as it was pretty predictable watching you do it almost everytime, just mix it up.

Your Marth is looking good, but don't expect heavy detailed critiques from a video where you look almost perfect. We need a video where you're working harder and getting a challenge to get the win to look at, to better critique you.
 

elvenarrow3000

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Uhhh... wavedash out of shield isn't as fast as you think it is, and he'd probably just get smacked if he tried after something like a fair, even if it wasn't L-canceled.
 

Ndot

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Uhhh... wavedash out of shield isn't as fast as you think it is, and he'd probably just get smacked if he tried after something like a fair, even if it wasn't L-canceled.
You are wrong, wavedash out of shield is pretty **** fast. He could have gotten the grab if he did it. Maybe you just do it slow. And you think wavedash OoS would get punished by a non l-cancelled fair? Man, you don't know what you are talking about.
 

elvenarrow3000

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O M F G

I HATE it when people make unbacked claims like that. Do you KNOW how much lag wavedashing out of shield is?

It's FIFTEEN frames as Marth. FIFTEEN. Then you tack on the seven frames of lag for the grab and you have TWENTY-TWO frames if it's FRAME PERFECT.

Ice Climber fair has TWENTY frames of lag. Even not including shield stun, it's faster.

So shut UP and do your research before you make an idiot of yourself.
 

Ndot

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lmao dood, the move that Marth blocked was fsmash, not fair. >_>

And if fsmash is less frames than the wavedash OoS and grab, then w/e I'm wrong. But you need to seriously calm the **** down. **** man. You're making yourself look like an idiot, you emo.
 

Ndot

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lol doesnt really matter to me. I'm still sure you can wavedash OoS to grab against IC's fsmash, not fair which I made a typo, if you can do that to Marth. Anyways, I don't know stuff about frames, correct me if I'm wrong. No need to ***** about it.
 

KirbyKaze

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ic's range is rather misleading. it's really not that good (ie. it's just above average).

if your shield gets f-smashed you can probably do stuff oos maybe even fair LOL.

unless they do like the double hit because for some reason nana's alive.
 

elvenarrow3000

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You can wavedash grab the fsmash, yeah.

Sorry I overreacted, there're just a lot of stupid people out who're like... dur, ur st0pid & cant wd rite.

But for the record, you DID say fair at first, so I was right and thus I can't be an idiot =P
 

Kels88

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Thank you all for the comments. I have been working on wavedashing oos but haven't really mastered it yet. By the way Elven arrow, Wding oos really can allow marth to grab after blocking.
I've had it done on me plenty of times.
 

ArcNatural

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thank You All For The Comments. I Have Been Working On Wavedashing Oos But Haven't Really Mastered It Yet. By The Way Elven Arrow, Wding Oos Really Can Allow Marth To Grab After Blocking.
I've Had It Done On Me Plenty Of Times.
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KosukeKGA

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Thank you all for the comments. I have been working on wavedashing oos but haven't really mastered it yet. By the way Elven arrow, Wding oos really can allow marth to grab after blocking.
I've had it done on me plenty of times.
PLEASE read what everyone has said thus far.
 

elvenarrow3000

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Y'know what? I give up. If you're not really going to listen to what I'm saying, then fine.
 

Ndot

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You can wavedash grab the fsmash, yeah.

Sorry I overreacted, there're just a lot of stupid people out who're like... dur, ur st0pid & cant wd rite.

But for the record, you DID say fair at first, so I was right and thus I can't be an idiot =P
yea my bad, i made typo :p, I meant fsmash as you already know
 
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