Rate my Marth. [Marth Dittos Added]

[Pyrostormer]

I think my Marth is pretty solid except for a few mistakes. I moonwalk with Marth a few times in the videos. Pretty cool I guess if you like flashiness...
Critique please.
Xeno (Mario) vs. Jim (Marth) 1/3 *VIDEO 100!*
Xeno (Mario) vs. Jim (Marth) 2/3
Xeno (Mario) vs. Jim (Marth) 3/3 [****ing Awesome Ending!]

Thanks in Advance!

Marth Dittos
Xeno (Marth) vs. Jim (Marth) 1/3 [Got *****]
Xeno (Marth) vs. Jim (Marth) 2/3
Xeno (Marth) vs. Jim (Marth) 3/3


Ok, So I tried to be more patient and take the advice from everybody. Meaning, I went less beserk, BUT it seriously wasn't working at all for me. If you could critique the new mathces and also tell me who has the better Marth.

Thanks again.

 

[onlymaskde]

I really like your Marth dude. I started semi-maining him like 3 weeks ago. I haven't mastered him yet, but compared to yours, I like to use neutral B, down B, and Dair a little more than you do. Just saying that's me. I can't give you much of any critique other than that, but yeah, your Marth is sick.

 

[Miggz]

Your tech skill is excellent. You're movement is very fluid. However, I don't think you play all that smart. You are constantly in attack mode, ya know? Less attacking, more thinking is my best advice. Don't be afraid to run up to run up to your foe and wait to react upon a reaction of their's. Overall, I enjoyed watching your Marth.

 

[4 Aces]

I'm not very proficient with Marth though, so my advice may not be very useful.

I noticed that you countered in an effort to protect yourself when you're in the air, which is fine, but you also have your fair, so that's something to keep in mind.

It's harder to ko foes at higher percentages, because Marth's combos don't work too well at high percentages, so maybe you could do reverse upb out of shield move since it has great knockback especially at high percents (and that awesome slashing sound). Make sure your enemy is right next to you though, since the sweetspot is a the very beginning of the move. It shouldn't matter whether or not you hit with the tip or the center of the blade for this move. It's just a thought.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the reverse upb out of shield, is a "one shot deal" (I think that's how you say it). In other words, if you miss, then you're screwed, so make sure you connect with it. Just an extra tidbit, if you didn't already get that. One last thing, you don't have to do it strictly out of a shield; be creative, do it in the middle of a combo (at lesser percents, I'd advise something else), just like how people will just pull out a midair shieldbreaker.

 

[xiaonomercy]

i gave you an awesome ^^

 

[4 Aces]

Cool, thanks. Wait, what does that mean and how does it work? What did you do?

 

[Proverbs]

As you can see, I only recently registered here and am considered a 'Smash n00b', so my advice might not be worth much. I'm sure that your Dolphin Blades used while on ground were only mistakes, so watch out for those; otherwise, your Marth, as others have said, is excellent. A technique that might work for you, though, if you are facing a more aggressive opponent, is, while you are recovering, to use Marth's counter technique and employ DI to help you get back to the stage while constantly guarding yourself. I accidentally did this once three times in a row instead of forward+b during the same recovery, and it actually didn't inhibit my recovery much at all when compared to Dancing Blade. Keep in mind also that Counter lets you slow fall for a while. Just an idea, I haven't tried it yet as a part of my playstyle, but let me know what you think of it.

 

[オビ (Obi)]

I'm gonna be sincere with you. I didn't like your marth. Let me tell you why.

Though your tech skills are excellent, during the whole fights, you are just throwing random attacks here and there looking for the "lucky shot" that will help you win. I think that when it comes to improvement, you already have the advanced skills you need to win, BUT you need to improve the way you use those skills. In other words, less berserk.

Here is an example of a good marth player, in my opinion of course. Is from Lord HDL, a moderator in this site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lH4qfgwfjw

 

[stingers]

Worst marth ever!
jk <_<
I'm the mario in those videos

 

[Pyrostormer]

Added Marth Dittos. Tell me who has the better Marth please!

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Jesus

I've got dial up, pick one match and I'll critque it well.

Or take a trip down to bladenboro and I'll test your marth firsthand.


edit: I got bored and picked one.

I watched the 3rd match

You try to be fast with your marth, thats obvious, but you fail in doing so. after the second f-throw chaingrab on you I seen and the marth killed himself then you taunted, I almost couldn't watch anymore but then I see the pathetic f-airs you did following that.... the problems are obvious from the short clip I seen.

You both had sessions of dance dancing then went all out aggressive, that was very bad, there was no mindgames.

You can't combo with him well and your di sucks. Whoever said you were technically sound wasn't a wise comment. Your spacing is off and all you have to you is blind speed. You need to really focus on what makes marth and play him correctly, trying to overwhelm with speed and inaccurate attacks will get you nowhere. You couldn't combo him well despite marth comboing himself very easily and your Di was really bad on most things. You made many mistakes and so did your opponent so I wouldn't focus on who has the better marth.

I take it you two don't play marth much

Both of the marths are lacking, so it doesn't matter who has the best marth.


Edit again: Gofg told me you have improved with these videos since the last videos he seen of you....eh?...Good I guess? but you need quite alot of work, perhaps I'm harsh but I live in NC and I like to think its a state that is good in smash. You need to be praciticing with people like me, pac, lozr, T.C and the others.

Work on:
Your blind aggressive-ness= your biggest fault.
Your speed= accuracy and ability to combo over being fast and missing or doing one hitters.
Your di= you should not be chainthrowed by the horizontal throw that far and some of the hits he gave, it seemed like you di-ed towards him to be hit again?...
Your combos= learn how to double fair properly and basic marth vs marth combos and setups.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Yo're not good at all. You're fast but you're not smart, and being fast doesn't mean technical. Your spacing on your forward airs is horrendous, your jumping patterns are predictable and you are constantly attacking which means you can be easily manipulated. You don't utilize the spacing of Marth at all and don't combo well either. Marth has many areas of his game where he can manipulate and limit his opponent, but you don't do any of them well.

That Mario is a much better player than you, although that's not saying much. Your Marth isn't horrible -- the ground work is there -- but you have no idea how to utilize his strengths properly.

 

[2-Tone]

most of what i could say, blue already did. Your dash dances are very sporadic and it almost seems like there is no strategy involved in them other than intimidation factor. Try to make them a bit longer and slowly edge towards your opponent (pretty much competetive smash 101, there).

Also, I'm guessing you play Roy a lot bc most of the time you were right up in his face hitting with the meat of the blade. Basically, work on spacing and DI, and don't look so mean when you play.

And you were kind of full hopping everytime you did a double fair. I'm guessing most of those were mistakes and were meant to be short hops. Although in that first match you still seemed to hit with it, it's not always the best choice to come down from the full hop with another fair.

BTW, counter has it's uses, but I wouldn't use it so much. It can really do you in.

Also, coming back to the edge, don't worry so much about be chased (especially against mario). You made it kind of obvious you were going for the sweet-spotted up-b, too. Since he was camping that edge you could have over-b'ed right in front of him and faired through the edge to make your recovery safer.

You are fast, don't get me wrong, but you need control as well. A lot of times it seemed like you were desperate for those few (non-tipped, mind you) air hits.

Last but not least...as aggressive as you play, I'm surprised there weren't many fsmashes in there. I know spamming it is stupid (and I've been done in by marth dittos against fsmash spamming noob players) but you didn't seem to utilize it at all.

Finally, before any of this is taken to heart it should be said that I only wathced the first vid. So some of this might be debunked by the others.

 

[Miggz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFgG-1CRsgQ this vid is more recent/better. I'm really the green one. XD

I'm no pro but nonetheless I'm smart/skilled. Watch this Marth ditto between me and my mate. Notice how I don't dash dance all crazy and I try and keep my foe within my range at times? Not to mention we both do some sick mindgames. Just watch and note the patient qualities.

I use to play like you a long time ago, all speed and no thinking. But you can change. I know you can. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them. You just need a new mindset is all. XD