Rate mah Lucas plz! =P

[Irsic]

Grabbing out of shield frequently is a bad habit.....with Lucas.

 

[Dxt XXII]

Punish more, instead of grabbing out of a sheild use fsmash or ftilt. Use ftilt more to give you space when he is close to you. Approach more with dair than with nair. You have good spacing, though.

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

Punish more, instead of grabbing out of a sheild use fsmash or ftilt. Use ftilt more to give you space when he is close to you. Approach more with dair than with nair. You have good spacing, though.

Didn't most of the Lucas players here say to approach more with PK Fire or Nair?

 

[ToxiCrow]

nair dair pkf are all approaches with lucas.
use whichever feels right for you

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

i hate approaching with pk fire. if it gets powershielded, then you are going to get punished. i think approaching with pk fire is a terrible idea.

dair, followed by nair are his best approach options.

 

[ToxiCrow]

pkf has pretty long range. i almost never get punished when i use it.
i'll pkf then if they shield it, i dash into a sh nair

 

[FireKirby7]

^^^ Huh. PK Fire is pretty safe from my view. I've never been punished for using it. Only way that can happen if you use it really close to your opponent or if you are facing Sonic. Maybe I'm just good with PKF.

 

[ToxiCrow]

yeah from a distance ur ok. i wouldnt use it if i'm a jab's length away from the opponent

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

pk fire goes this far. time for a crappy picture.
x=lucas
o=opponent


it goes this far at max.
x------o
___________

if you approach with it, you should be moving forward. so if you shpkf towards the opponent you should take off at least one dash, maybe more.


at the least.
x-----o
____________

when you land you will be either
back where you started because you wavebounce, which is not approaching. you are spacing.
x------o
_____________

or here

x----o
_____________

pk fire always has 23 frames of lag. if the opponent jumps over it, they have almost half a second to punish, which is quite a bit of time. if they Powershield it they can just dash grab.


approaching with pk fire is not that good of an idea. However, spacing your approach with it is.

 

[Levitas]

PK fire is a terrible approach. PK fire is a decent retreat/zoning tool.

 

[Dxt XXII]

^What he said.

Nair has low priority and can be punished. Full hop fast fall dair can break though sheilds (sometimes), break through many ariels and smashes, combos to dtilt to stick, and is just plain safer.

 

[ToxiCrow]

pk fire always has 23 frames of lag. if the opponent jumps over it, they have almost half a second to punish, which is quite a bit of time.

wow i would've never thought about jumping over it lol
thats a good idea

approaching with pk fire is not that good of an idea. However, spacing your approach with it is.

QFT. good point.

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS-aNuAmUBI&feature=channel_page

I just wanted to know if my Lucas improved some from last time. Tell me what you think.

 

[ToxiCrow]

put the video in the real "Rate My lucas" thread please