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RaynEX

Colonel RTSD
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Aug 14, 2005
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Not bad, but your Fox needs alot of work.

The things you should be doing vs. every Sheik...weren't anywhere to be seen in that match.

There were NOT any:

uthrow->uairs

waveshine->grabs, waveshine->usmashes

edge-grab->punish Sheik's laggy up+b on the stage

I saw you doing SHDLs and stuff randomly, so I know the things I mentioned aren't way out there for you. Stick to getting the job done killing her. Start dash-dancing instead of trying to jump in on her or just standing there. Use the fundamental combos to kill the Sheik, because the simple combos are what work best on her.
 

Milos

Smash Lord
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Apr 17, 2007
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Some boring suburb of, NY
Alright thanks a lot. are there any vulnerabilities in shieks up B that fox can take advantage of, particularly in the middle? I know I've bair'd shiek in between the jump and the teleport. but is that something that can be done consistently? if not, what other options do I have for ledgehop edgeguards?
 

Shai Hulud

Smash Lord
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Dec 21, 2006
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Oregon
You can bair from the edge to try to hit before the invincibility part of the up-B. If the bair hits during the invincible part anyway you can either land on the stage, then quickly waveland back to the edge, or you can just regrab the edge if you did the bair fast enough (it's really hard to do this though).

What you want to do is be invincible on the edge during the portion of Sheik's up-B that has hitboxes, because a lot of the time they will try to catch you in the explosion so they can safely land. If you are invincible they are forced to either go on the stage or straight up, hoping you'll go on the stage early so they can grab the edge. If you are good at ledgedashing you don't even need to guess where she will go. Just wait on the edge (refreshing your invincibility with stalls if you need to), and if she goes straight up, sit there, and if she goes for the stage, ledgedash on to grab or shine or usmash.
 

Killress

Smash Ace
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Aug 23, 2007
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SUNY Geneseo
RaynEX had it about right. uthrow->uairs are your best friend vs. shiek.


Also, lol at the Hannah Montana sig o.o
 

unknown522

Some guy
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Aug 17, 2005
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Toronto, Ontario
Alright thanks a lot. are there any vulnerabilities in shieks up B that fox can take advantage of, particularly in the middle? I know I've bair'd shiek in between the jump and the teleport. but is that something that can be done consistently? if not, what other options do I have for ledgehop edgeguards?
you can hit shiek in the beginning of the up-b before she starts flashing (1-2 rotations I think). Also, if they miss the sweet spot you can hit them, but it's not recommended.

I would give you advice, but RaynEX said it all. Just choose your get ups better.
 
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