Questions about buffering with C stick

[SUNG475]

I've been buffering with the C stick for awhile now but some things I just can't seem to figure out.

1. How come sometimes I forward smash instead of rolling? For instance, if I'm on the ground then I get up while buffering a roll, I forward smash sometimes.

2. Also sometimes I just get hit randomly while I'm shielding like if someone tries to nair my shield and I buffer a roll (maybe at the exact same moment) I get hit. Are characters vulnerable within the first frames of rolling?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Sometimes I accidentally fsmash because I hit the C-stick before L, although you might be experiencing something else.

Yes, you are vulnerable during the first several frames of a roll.

 

[Strong Badam]

roll invinc starts frame 4 for most chars IIRC

EDIT: jigglypuff is 2, Yoshi is 1. everyone else is 4

 

[SUNG475]

Thanks a lot guys, oh you're probably right about that Fly I'll make sure to hold shield first

And no WONDER about the roll vulnerability thanks again!

 

[_Xanatos_]

Damm that's a sexy avatar.

 

[leffen]

roll invinc starts frame 4 for most chars IIRC

EDIT: jigglypuff is 2, Yoshi is 1. everyone else is 4

could you explain to me how the hell yoshis roll works? where is his vulnerability LOL

 

[Krynxe]

Sorry strong bad, but I'm pretty sure you're counting an extra frame. Normal rolls have 3 vulnerable frames, puff has 1, and yoshi has non at all.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Sorry strong bad, but I'm pretty sure you're counting an extra frame. Normal rolls have 3 vulnerable frames, puff has 1, and yoshi has non at all.

This isn't contrary to what SB said. He listed the first frame of invulnerability rather than the last frame of vulnerability.

 

[Metà]

I'm pretty sure the f-smash thing happens when you hit the C-stick and shield simultaneously.

 

[Jeapie]

Sometimes I accidentally fsmash because I hit the C-stick before L, although you might be experiencing something else.

Yes, you are vulnerable during the first several frames of a roll.

I know how you feel.
Although sometimes the forward smash which was suppose to be a roll hits.