Question for all Sheik mainers

[brawlerbrad91]

Who fares well against Sheik, or what types of characters do well against her?

I am using Zelda and Pikachu, but I need to decide on a third character to cover my weaknesses.

 

[Player-1]

Again, I think a GOOD Ike, one who can make up for his lack of speed, is good against sheik

 

[Zankoku]

Olimar shouldn't be able to lose against Sheik.

 

[Squidster]

I disagree with above poster...

1) Needles > ike
2) Sheik is one of the best character to punish Ike's lag. Boost smash or grab comes to mind
3) Sheik's game revolves around edgeguarding. Ike is easy to edgeguard.


Imo... Zelda is one of the best against sheik... looks like you're in good shape

<Edit> And by above poster i mean above ank

 

[Player-1]

Thats why i said one who can make up for his speed, but i don't main sheik any more, i did in melee, but i use him from time to time. Ike's strength can easily KO Sheik at around 55ish damage. His needles won't be a problem for good ike users because the ike user should be staying close to Sheik as much as possible. Also I find Sheiks very easy to edge hog as well as Ike's.

 

[goodoldganon]

As Ankoku said, Olimar is a pain to fight as Sheik. No one else really sticks out for me otherwise. I find good DKs to be tough as well.

 

[imdavid]

Zelda, game and watch, and ROB. Maybe its just me though.

 

[Squidster]

Zelda, game and watch, and ROB. Maybe its just me though.

Nope, that's about right.

 

[Drephen]

metaknight is a reallllllllly hard matchup for shiek IMO

 

[imdavid]

oh oh oh, and IC... their chain grab is hella annoying, but thats the only problem with them really..

 

[3xSwords]

I disagree with above poster...

1) Needles > ike
2) Sheik is one of the best character to punish Ike's lag. Boost smash or grab comes to mind
3) Sheik's game revolves around edgeguarding. Ike is easy to edgeguard.


Imo... Zelda is one of the best against sheik... looks like you're in good shape

<Edit> And by above poster i mean above ank

Yes but Ike takes a million years to kill (esp for shiek), and generally your put in a position where you can't counter the smash attack even after you dodge it b/c Ike mainers try to put you in situations where even if they miss they won't be punished very badly.

 

[Zankoku]

They'll try, but all of their smashes are punishable anyway unless they slide off the stage by hitting your shield :V

And why would it take a million years to kill Ike when Sheik has a solid edgeguarding game and Ike has one of the most vulnerable recoveries in the game?

 

[3xSwords]

A good Ike will just save the 2nd jump, then when hear the edge air dodge, 2nd jump, upB. This is pretty hard to edgeguard depending on who you are. And Shiek has low knockback on a lot of her moves so it will take some time before Ike is hit very far out which is where he is most vulnerable in his recovery game. Although my million years was an exagerration, I just don't think Ike is as simple as the guy described b/c generally we don't use our smashes that much and when we do they are in favorable situations.
I would also think a shiek would have trouble b/c Ike's aerials just pretty much own hers in terms of range. Btw I'm on the shiek forums b/c I'm thinking of her as a good secondary. I mean who cares about the nerfs shiek is still awesome.

 

[Cobra]

A good Ike will just save the 2nd jump, then when hear the edge air dodge, 2nd jump, upB. This is pretty hard to edgeguard depending on who you are. And Shiek has low knockback on a lot of her moves so it will take some time before Ike is hit very far out which is where he is most vulnerable in his recovery game. Although my million years was an exagerration, I just don't think Ike is as simple as the guy described b/c generally we don't use our smashes that much and when we do they are in favorable situations.
I would also think a shiek would have trouble b/c Ike's aerials just pretty much own hers in terms of range. Btw I'm on the shiek forums b/c I'm thinking of her as a good secondary. I mean who cares about the nerfs shiek is still awesome.

IMO, Rob and Zelda are the hardest matchups for Sheik. To the above post though, I think that Sheik's aerial game is more then good enough to keep an Ike far enough away from the edge so that he's unable to use his Up+B , and at that point, when he has to rely on his forward B to recover, he's at the disadvantage to Sheik.

 

[Soma]

Any character that has good range and/or priority. As Drephen mentioned, MK sucks to fight, its hard to get through his range and speed. Zelda and Pika should be well too considering you can be quite gay really easily.

 

[sFoster]

Here is what angers me about the sheik matchups..

She is best against larger, heavier characters.. which is exactly where Zelda excells
I wish that sheik and zelda were ideal against DIFFERENT body types, but alas.

 

[Squidster]

Here is what angers me about the sheik matchups..

She is best against larger, heavier characters.. which is exactly where Zelda excells
I wish that sheik and zelda were ideal against DIFFERENT body types, but alas.

No way, ganon owns zelda.

 

[imdavid]

zelda also owns toon link

Edit:
Sheik's aerials don't have much knockback... but against an ike player there is always that possibility of a stage spike