Psychic vs. Magic

[alpha n00b]

this is a topic me & my friends discussed,
which is better? Psychic or magic?.
i've always perfered Psychic cause
it's so much easier to use your head then using spells

 

[Dibs]

Psychic is a Pokemon type. Magic is fake. Ex: David Blaine.

How did you NOT know of this?

 

[alpha n00b]

i meant actual powers, you know, like you see in the movies?
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

[Dibs]

OOOOOHHHH.. Well in THAT case. I'd be magic. You can make crap out of it like animals and stuff. Psychic is more evil no expression torturous type. Fit for a mod or something.

 

[M4g1c]

Where is this "psychic"?! I'll kill him!

Ahem.

Tbh, I'd rather be psychic than magic. My username lies.

 

[pikachun00b7]

Well pokemon the movie.
If you choose Physic tanks like umbreon will **** you. so magic is much better.

 

[Cyphus]

i'm fluent in Pokenese and DavidBlainese and ya'll still lost me...

 

[Skywalker]

The sixth sense has always been more interesting to me than casting a generic levitation spell. Telekinesis is much better.

 

[Inevitable]

Being able to outsmart your opponet is better than silly little tricks, which is why I prefer psychic.

/\/\1|\||)G@/\/\3$

(If you can read that then you need to get off the internet for a while and get some fresh air.)

Edit: Magic is entertaining though, unless you're psychic.

 

[ThatGuy]

Can't psychics mind control magic users anyway?

 

[Rici]

Not when they cast a magic shield around them!

 

[Ensee]

Very true! ^

 

[Elen]

Why not just be a psychic magic user and pwn everyones face? This is like a mindgames vs. tech skill topic. Just take both ^^

 

[notftomearth7]

If a mage and a psychic (sorry for the mispell) got into a conversation


psychic: So it the moon landing WAS fake? I knew it!
Mage: No one's supposed to know DIE!!!! (Crushes mind reader with meteors)


Nuff said, magic is better

 

[Inevitable]

If a mage and a psychic (sorry for the mispell) got into a conversation


psychic: So it the moon landing WAS fake? I knew it!
Mage: No one's supposed to know DIE!!!! (Crushes mind reader with meteors)


Nuff said, magic is better

Not necessarly, the way you put it wouldn't be quite fair.

Since it's a psychic or a "mindreader" as you put it against a Mage, the psychic would always be a step ahead, he'd simply move out of range where the Mage would summon the meteor(s). I mean he is psychic after all so he'd know exactly where every meteor would hit. You can't defeat something you can't outsmart................well in this fight.

Since you've managed to upgrade someone who knows magic into a whole new league known as a Mage, I guess it'd only be fair to upgrade the psychic as well, now wouldn't it?


Edit: Yes, I am psychic biased.

 

[commonyoshi]

Since it's a psychic or a "mindreader" as you put it against a Mage, the psychic would always be a step ahead, he'd simply move out of range where the Mage would summon the meteor(s). I mean he is psychic after all so he'd know exactly where every meteor would hit. You can't defeat something you can't outsmart................well in this fight.

Not really. You can have all the knowledge you want, but if it's not physically possible for you to move out of the way, you're still screwed. Say a magician decides to summon a gigantic ring of fire that slowly closes in on the mind reader. The mind reader knows that it's coming, but there wont be any way for him to dodge the attack. He's dead.

 

[Inevitable]

Psychic's have a few trick up their sleeves, at least the advanced ones, he could crush your mind just by tearing into your thoughts, he could just play mindgames with your head and create illusions to trick the Mage into using self inflicting pain into himself, all of these while the psychic could be sitting a few feet away enjoying a book.

 

[alpha n00b]

*bump* the guy above me knows his superpower stuff.
just imagine how fun it would be to mentaly send screamers
into someone's head!. mental tortue wins.

 

[Zane Fleia]

Magic > Psychic. But in all seriousness, this can and will go back and forth forever, for one simple fact: magicians can do anything psionicists can, and vice versa. It's just done differently.

 

[ThatGuy]

psionicists

You read R.A Salvatore novels, don't you...

 

[dr.neo]

I'd want to have the power to kill a yak from onehundred yards away... with mind bullets.

Thats telekinesis Kyle.

Anyone know what thats from?

 

[Toilet Paper]

Psychic would win over Magic any day. So if the Magic Man used some spell, the Psychic v=could just reverse it on him with his uber mind powers. Like Sylar!

 

[Zane Fleia]

And the magician could reflect it back. And you're totally discounting the fact that, perhaps, the magician retained control over his spell, overpowering the psychic ability. What? You're going to crush my mind? Excuse me while I implode yours.

I've read a little Salvatore, but I doubt he's why I call them psionicists. Probably Dungeons and Dragons as a whole.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

>.>;

This has to be one of the weirdest threads that I've ever seen on the forum.

Needless to say, I'll throw in my two cents anyway.

Here goes: It all depends on the paradigm of the author.

The End.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Inevitable]

This is turning into a DBZ uber thread, but however I will still stay alongside of psychic abilities.

Psychic's can do anything magic users or "magicians" can do, only difference is they can do it better.

And the magician could reflect it back. And you're totally discounting the fact that, perhaps, the magician retained control over his spell, overpowering the psychic ability. What? You're going to crush my mind? Excuse me while I implode yours.

I've read a little Salvatore, but I doubt he's why I call them psionicists. Probably Dungeons and Dragons as a whole.

Magic can only get you so far..

 

[Zane Fleia]

Care to add a little reason to that statement? I say that psionicists and magicians can do the same thing. Why in the world do psychics do it better? Aside from "They can do it better" please. And also, explain why "Magic can only get you so far." Just saying it's not enough, and I believe that magic - as well as psionics - can go much further than merely far.

 

[Inevitable]

1.) Magic isn't real.
2.) Psychic's are considered to be fakes as well.


I'd like to know where you gather your informative sweet pool of abyss from..


We can't speak direct but we can speak for animes and such I guess..


And psionicists and magicians can't do the same thing, they have their weaknesses and their strengths.

I'd like to see how you would be able to approach a psychic with your magical hats and what not, let alone defeat one.

I stand for both, I just prefer psychic over magic.

Psychic>Magic

4e\/3R

 

[Zane Fleia]

Magic may very well be real, as well as psionics. You can say it's fake, I can say it's real. And I would love to see how you approach a magician with your psionics, let alone defeat one.
As with you, I like both. I think they are equally balanced. However, I prefer magic and stand by it. What are a psionicist's great strengths and a magician's great weaknesses? Show me why they can't do the same things.

Magc > Psionics
Until time ends. ^_^

 

[Schweppes]

Couldn't the magician cast a spell that give himself psychic powers? Magic winz.

 

[Inevitable]

Psychic's don't approach, I don't think they're the assualt type. They're more defensive.

I can't say exactly what the psychic would do unless you tell me what the spell caster would do first. It's routine.

Aside from the fact that the psychic could just teleport you to the core of the sun and have you destroyed instantly, what is the magician going to do to stop this inevitable death?

 

[Zane Fleia]

It depends on the Psychic. Some are defensive, some do assault. It's the same with everything, including magicians.

I note you didn't tell me what the psionicist would do in your post. And if I did say what the magician would do, this would turn into a literal turn-based battle thread. XD

Well, the magician could do any number of things. First, he could deflect the mind power back to the psychic, thereby teleporting the psychic into the sun. A magical shield could block the teleportation completely. The mage could go on the offensive and, say, replace the psionicist's heart with a gelatin mold. And are you insinuating a mage couldn't teleport the psionicist into the core of the sun?

 

[alpha n00b]

magicians can't read minds like Psychics, therefore, the Psi user
could predict what's going to happen & take down the magician
when he least suspects it.

 

[gcboy]

psychics are better... they'll make the magicians blow themselves up...

 

[Zane Fleia]

magicians can't read minds like Psychics, therefore, the Psi user
could predict what's going to happen & take down the magician
when he least suspects it.

Now THAT'S a vile lie! Magicians can absolutely read minds! Where did you ever hear that they couldn't?

And to gcboy, that's if the magician doesn't blow the psionicist up first.

 

[alpha n00b]

well, for one, magicians rely on spellcasting.. Psi's use their brain,
you can't rely on Magic.

 

[Zane Fleia]

I disagree, and the inverse can be stated. Psionicists rely on their brain. You can't always rely on that. Especially when magic OR psionics is involved. You can't always rely on anything for that matter.

 

[Dragon_Hawk]

I say that in the case of low level psychic vs low level mage the psychic wins, simply because thoughts process faster than incantations.

Now... if both can actually turn conscious thoughts into reality warping spells or psionic entities, then it gets complicated. In this case, however, I would say that simply due to the higher diversity in ability, magic takes it by a slim margin.

However, the assumption there is that the magician can cast spells at the same rate that he thinks. I say the magician would win in that contest simply because anti-psi shield = gg psychic. Or be flashy and blow their head up. But yeah. If the magician can do magic at the same rate that he thinks then he wins. Otherwise he loses because he realizes how hot the sun actually is.

 

[Zane Fleia]

When you say incantation, do you mean something like screaming "KAMEHAMEHA"? Because the general way to complete a spell can be as easy as literally waving a finger, which does not take THAT much more time than forming the thoughts of a psionic ability, if any. You seem to be basing psionics on the assumption that it takes literally the same time as a single thought process to enact the power. I think that it requires a bit more than a single thought process. This is especially true at the low levels of ability. There is more than the speed of a thought involved. It has to be a calculated thought with focus and concentration behind it, similarly to a magician's gesture. As they become advanced in their practices, both the magician and psionicist become much more used to the correct focues and concentrations behind their thoughts and gestures, but the same still applies. Psionicists are very marginally faster if anything at best.

 

[Dragon_Hawk]

When you say incantation, do you mean something like screaming "KAMEHAMEHA"? Because the general way to complete a spell can be as easy as literally waving a finger, which does not take THAT much more time than forming the thoughts of a psionic ability, if any.

I was thinking more along the lines of blinking or flicking a finger but, yeah, I didn't take into consideration the concentration required. Although I'd argue that concentration would also be demanded from the mage. On the other hand, if that's the case, does the concentration of the mage have to be the same as the psychic? Because mages draw power from magic, not from their minds. So do they require the same focus to produce their reality-warping effects? Or is the margin still enough to make thought process faster than blinking?

I still believe this would come down to a speed contest, where whoever is faster would win and if that margin is sufficient enough to let the psychic get the first blow in before the mage, then he wins.

Although if the margin isn't large enough and the mage has time to react (or the mage is just faster) I'd say mage wins because of overwhelming amounts of diversity.

 

[Zane Fleia]

I like to think it's a different kind of concentration or focus required by the mage than the psionicist's. One's power comes from the mind, and the other's comes from the arcane. The base difference between the two is the theory and practice behind it. The margin of time required to cast a spell, if it isn't the same as a psionicist's, is enough to react to a psionicist's power. This of course goes into theory here, due to the fact I can't honestly say I'm a practiced magician or psionicist. XD