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Project Phoenix: The back-pocket alternative

About a week ago, Reddit user QuasarQuon posted a thread talking about his newest project. With Project Phoenix, Quasar brings an alternative to both GameCube and Wii users by providing a platform much, much smaller than the usual.

Project Phoenix is a modified GameCube, adapted into a more compact case. Instead of using the standard disc reader, Phoenix uses an SD card to load ISO files. Aside from that, the case contains everything from the original Cube, with the exception of a second Memory Card Slot. It's also easy to operate, as the video at the end demonstrates.

Now, why should this concern smash players? Well, with Project Phoenix, you no longer have to carry the Wii/GameCube with you whenever you have to travel to a tournament, which sometimes is a pain. With it's smaller size, Phoenix can be carried easily, fitting in most hand-bags/backpacks or maybe even in you back pocket. Despite being basically an ISO reader, you can play your games just as fine as in a GameCube or Wii, with Phoenix even running the 20XX version of Melee.


The main case, with the 4 controller ports of a standard GameCube/Wii

We managed to contact Quasar for a more detailed insight of what this project is like.

HyperNova: When and how did you come with this idea?

QuasarQuon: I first came up with the idea about 10 months ago, maybe a bit more. It started because I just thought carrying my GameCube around was a huge pain, it’s a big awkward shape. I like to build things and tinker anyways, so I figured I'd try to see what I could do to make it smaller.



A size comparison with the Cube.

HN: Was it difficult to figure out how the Cube worked?

QQ: When I first started this project I really didn't have much knowledge of electronics, I kinda knew how to solder and basic things but I really didn't know what i was doing too much so I had to figure things out as I went. I went through a ton of Cubes trying to figure out how it worked. Now that I know what I'm doing, looking back on it I can say that figuring out how the cube worked was definitely a challenge, it was pretty tricky, but I think if I had started the project with the knowledge I have now it would have been easier.


HN: How exactly does the Phoenix work?

QQ: So when I first opened up the GameCube the first thing I noticed was how much room the disc drive takes up. I’d say a majority of the size of the GameCube is the disc drive. I knew that had to go if I wanted to make it into a small size. Instead of the disc drive, I used an SD card slot that I wired and soldered up, effectively taking the place of the disc drive. That alone made way for a ton of shrinking. Along with that I decided to take anything that wasn't necessary away to make it as small as possible, whether that be extra ports or even circuit boards that I could just make with a few wires, creating my own circuits instead of using the circuit boards. Then with the things I thought were good to stay I had to rearrange them into a fashion that made sense, and would allow me to fit everything into a tiny box.


HN: That sounds really interesting. The fact that you replaced some circuits with your own is amazing

QQ: Way back when i first started I actually had no intention of making any of my own circuits like that. I figured I’d just use what was already there and try to just put things closer together. But the more I worked on it the more possibilities I saw for improvement and the more I realized just how small I could get it if I really strip the console down.



The back of the case, with the regular cables and a single Memory Card Slot.

HN: Is the Project Phoenix done? Or will you still add some more stuff?

QQ: Well up until about a week or so ago it was done, but after the suggestion of headphone jacks I've been trying to figure out a solution for that after that idea got such positive feedback. It's turning out to be more work than I originally hoped, but I think it will be worth it. Beyond that, I don’t think I’ll be adding too much to it. Maybe sometime down the line I'll make a second version and really just reinvent the console and add a ton of new generation features, but for now I’m sticking to just getting the headphone jacks done.

HN: One last thing. Do you plan to sell it? And if you do, what's the plan?

QQ: I do fully intend to start selling them, I just need a bit more time. As I said before, I need to finish figuring out the headphone jack idea which is my first priority. I have plans to set up a website in the near future for sales and information. As much as I’d like to start selling them right away, there’s just a few things I need to take care of first. Hopefully everything will fall into place soon.




So there you have it. While this is not the only option in the market, it still is a more comfortable (and possibly even cheaper) alternative that some players would definitely appreciate. If you want to keep up with Quasar and his project, you can follow him on twitter at @hellaflyballer.

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Did you like the idea? Do you plan to check it out? Let us know in the comments bellow!
 
Alberto "RedNova" Vásquez

Comments

This hands down has to be one of the smartest ideas I've seen out there. Only issue to me is simply this...

Would it still be required to buy or have a friend who has bought any of the said Nintendo system(s) and game(s) to be able to actually use this thing?
 
This is a Brilliant idea

Though i am a little concern that Nintendo might take things that wrong way and well, "lash out" for a lack of a better word, at the create for tinkering with their product. Especially since he plans to sell them

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i am a little concern that Nintendo might take things that wrong way and well, "lash out" for a lack of a better word, at the create for tinkering with their product. Especially since he plans to sell them

Meh... they'd have little reason to care, especially since they don't sell Gamecube games anymore It's conceptually the same as a Retron 5 (though no disc reader), and Nintendo hasn't gone after them even though they actively sell those games. They might go after it because it has no disc reader, but I really don't see that happening. But it is Nintendo, so you knever know
 
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This hands down has to be one of the smartest ideas I've seen out there. Only issue to me is simply this...

Would it still be required to buy or have a friend who has bought any of the said Nintendo system(s) and game(s) to be able to actually use this thing?
No other consoles are required, but you do need an ISO of the game. If you want to keep things legal, you will need a copy of the original game to get that ISO.
 
This hands down has to be one of the smartest ideas I've seen out there. Only issue to me is simply this...

Would it still be required to buy or have a friend who has bought any of the said Nintendo system(s) and game(s) to be able to actually use this thing?
If they don't include the cables with the Phoenix and you don't own them, yes, you would need a Gamecube. Also if you want to get the ISO files quote unquote legally, you would need the original discs.
 
I hope Nintendo doesn't get mad that QuasarQuon quite literally built "Pirating, the Console". If it runs ISO files, you could play pretty much any Cube game, and some Wii games, provided they support cube controllers. I still want to see this succeed, though.
 
If they don't include the cables with the Phoenix and you don't own them, yes, you would need a Gamecube. Also if you want to get the ISO files quote unquote legally, you would need the original discs.
Alright, awesome! Thanks for helping me clear up some confusion. c:
 
*begins praying that it will be sold at a relatively decent price*
I honestly have an idea on the estimate, considering that this is a console with the are essentials. My guess would be similar to the price of the Gamecube when it was released, so about 200... Which is astounding compared to the price of consoles right now.
 
Meh... they'd have little reason to care, especially since they don't sell Gamecube games anymore It's conceptually the same as a Retron 5 (though no disc reader), and Nintendo hasn't gone after them even though they actively sell those games. They might go after it because it has no disc reader, but I really don't see that happening. But it is Nintendo, so you knever know
Well, judging by the fact that they aren't too fond of tool assisted speedruns, they may raise the eyebrows a bit, but it's really a shot in the dark on what Nintendo's reaction will actually be.
 
This is a Brilliant idea

Though i am a little concern that Nintendo might take things that wrong way and well, "lash out" for a lack of a better word, at the create for tinkering with their product. Especially since he plans to sell them

:135:
Wouldn't worry too much about that. People have been modding DS and 3DS systems for years and selling them and Nintendo hasn't done anything about it. (Mostly it's modding in some extra ram or w/e and an HDMI out so you can record DS and 3DS gameplay.)

The only potential snarl is that you'll have to use downloaded games to play, which kinda supports piracy. As long as he doesn't advertise that you can play TP on the thing he'll be fine, lol.
 
can it be SDHC cards or just SD cards?
Purely SD would be the most likely answer. However, SD cards are kinda cheap. You can get a 64 GB one at 20 bucks. 4 of them would be worth 80 dollars, but that's 256 gigs of space compared to your 200 gb one at the same price.
 
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Seems really good!

The only thing it seems lacking is a disk-reader. Would be nice if it could read disks as well, if you want/need to.
 
Seems really good!

The only thing it seems lacking is a disk-reader. Would be nice if it could read disks as well, if you want/need to.
It's built that way. A disc reader would beef up the size of the system a lot, and the guy built it purely for the sheer mobility of the thing. It has the processing power, which is more than good enough.
 
This is a Brilliant idea

Though i am a little concern that Nintendo might take things that wrong way and well, "lash out" for a lack of a better word, at the create for tinkering with their product. Especially since he plans to sell them

:135:
The only reason i'd see them going after it is because they still are (somehow) making money of selling wii's for the gamecube functionality.
 
I hope Nintendo doesn't get mad that QuasarQuon quite literally built "Pirating, the Console". If it runs ISO files, you could play pretty much any Cube game, and some Wii games, provided they support cube controllers. I still want to see this succeed, though.
He's just booting a homebrewed GC with Swiss and an SD card soldered onto ports from a memory card.

The same can be done with a normal Gamecube, Super Smash Bros. Melee, HomeBros w/ Swiss GC payload on a Memory Card, and an SD Gecko (or a soldered SD card).

Nintendo has reached the point in the console's lifecycle where they made sales that this wouldn't touch, especially since they aren't being manufactured nor are the games being sold (save for a select few re-releases). Datel was straight up selling SD media launchers with region free and DOL loading during the console's lifespan too.
 
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Does this play only GameCube games or do Wii games (well, the ones that work with GC controllers) work with it as well? I don't see much clarification in the article, since the caption of the image mentions the Wii, but it doesn't say Project Phoenix can play its games.
 
Does this play only GameCube games or do Wii games (well, the ones that work with GC controllers) work with it as well? I don't see much clarification in the article, since the caption of the image mentions the Wii, but it doesn't say Project Phoenix can play its games.
Just GC. It is, after all, just the guts of one minus the disk drive.
 
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