Project M Falco to Melee Falco

[Jackson]

Hey guys. I was originally a Brawl player who switched to Project M. I've been maining Falco in there and doing alright. But, after watching the Melee documentary and Melee matches in general, Melee seems a bit more interesting to me. Since I have access to it, I'm gonna pick up Melee and main Falco. What are his differences between Melee and PM, and what are the most important things I'll have to get down to have success with him?

 

[Red Rice]

IMO PM falco and Melee falco have similar if not identical playstyles. The only difference that I've seen is that PM falco feels klunky to me. Melee falco is much smoother

 

[Jackson]

IMO PM falco and Melee falco have similar if not identical playstyles. The only difference that I've seen is that PM falco feels klunky to me. Melee falco is much smoother

Honestly, I've heard that too and that's the main reason I want to switch. Melee Falco matches seem to have much longer combos compared to PM. It's relieving to hear its similar though.

 

[Russ The Love Muss]

I haven't played much but I'm able to play both versions of Falco pretty much exactly the same. PM Falco just feels like he moves a bit differently, but everything I know about the character carries over.

 

[Jackson]

I haven't played much but I'm able to play both versions of Falco pretty much exactly the same. PM Falco just feels like he moves a bit differently, but everything I know about the character carries over.

Yeah, seems like it. I'm just gonna play him in both like you. But I have to say: Melee Falco feels a bit more fluid and easy to combo with. Just my opinion though.

 

[Russ The Love Muss]

Yeah, seems like it. I'm just gonna play him in both like you. But I have to say: Melee Falco feels a bit more fluid and easy to combo with. Just my opinion though.

Yeah he definitely feels better, and does better, in melee, but I don't think there is any difference to how you actually play him.

 

[Jackson]

Yeah he definitely feels better, and does better, in melee, but I don't think there is any difference to how you actually play him.

Agreed. I still use the same moves and all that. (Although in PM I think his Jab is a lot better, and you have access to techs like RAR and Gatling Combo)

 

[Russ The Love Muss]

Agreed. I still use the same moves and all that. (Although in PM I think his Jab is a lot better, and you have access to techs like RAR and Gatling Combo)

Oh I did forgot about some of the brawl engine stuff, I don't think there are any melee specific techniques. Good luck transitioning

 

[Jackson]

Oh I did forgot about some of the brawl engine stuff, I don't think there are any melee specific techniques. Good luck transitioning

Thanks man!

 

[TunNel]

I feel like the actual movement of Falco is different in PM. Try dash dancing in Melee then trying the same thing with PM Falco - you'll see what I mean.

 

[Jackson]

I feel like the actual movement of Falco is different in PM. Try dash dancing in Melee then trying the same thing with PM Falco - you'll see what I mean.

I did it, i do see what you mean. It just feels a bit weird in PM.

 

[krazyzyko]

I don't think there are any melee specific techniques.

You forgot to mention light shield and shine drop.

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

Easier to Multishine lol

 

[Jackson]

Easier to Multishine lol

Lol, still not easy for me.

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

Lol, still not easy for me.

Multishining as Falco is hard for me but easier with Fox in both Melee & PM

 

[tauKhan]

Easier to Multishine lol

That's an untrue myth. It's probably actually very very slightly harder in pm if landing after shine after jumpsquat takes longer. That would mean there would be a longer window for falco to mess up multishine by double jumping out of shine. I'm not sure about that though, since the pm has different landing detection, but it's very likely thanks to the momentum delay.

However a significant difference is that shine turnaround in pm is 1 frame instead of the 3 in melee, which makes getting stuck in shine because of accidentally turning not happen in pm. Also you can of course do faster shine turn aerials.

 

[Abaddun]

Falco in Pm has blue laz0rz..

 

[Jackson]

Falco in Pm has blue laz0rz..

It makes all the difference.

Ahh, 666 posts!

 

[MALVM MALVM]

It also has a lot to do with context. If you want to fight PM characters, you should continue with PM Falco and if you want to play a game that rewards offensive play a little more you should try more melee. Ultimately it's whatever's more fun and there's no reason you can't play both.

 

[Jackson]

It also has a lot to do with context. If you want to fight PM characters, you should continue with PM Falco and if you want to play a game that rewards offensive play a little more you should try more melee. Ultimately it's whatever's more fun and there's no reason you can't play both.

Yeah I plan to play both. But to be honest, i'm liking melee at bit more as of late.

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

Yeah I plan to play both. But to be honest, i'm liking melee at bit more as of late.

Remember it can mess your tech skill up when you play Melee

 

[Jackson]

Remember it can mess your tech skill up when you play Melee

Yeah... I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My buddies play PM exclusively. Maybe I can convince 'em to take up Melee.

 

[FriendGuy]

I like to play Marth in PM. He transitions more smoothly from game to game for me and I don't have to mess up my melee falco.

 

[Jackson]

I like to play Marth in PM. He transitions more smoothly from game to game for me and I don't have to mess up my melee falco.

I might revisit him since I've played Marth a bit in the past. I've heard people say that PM Marth is identical to Melee Marth(basically).

 

[Spak]

Also, you may want to SHL in Melee a bit to get more used to it. When I played some PM Falco, it felt like the timing is a little different from Melee.

 

[Jackson]

Also, you may want to SHL in Melee a bit to get more used to it. When I played some PM Falco, it felt like the timing is a little different from Melee.

I'm converting to only Melee basically, and i think the PM timing is still screwing me up.

 

[MALVM MALVM]

The sounds are so ugly in P:M; I can't stand playing Melee chars in that game.

 

[victinivcreate1]

The sounds are so ugly in P:M; I can't stand playing Melee chars in that game.

Bruh its called add Melee SFX in the SFX folder in sounds.

Thats what I did with Fox. Now he can scream gibberish. FYAAH, OOHAHHH, MISHUN KUMPLETE!

 

[SomethingRaven]

The fact that pm is a mod of brawl means that the pm and melee falco cant be the same. While I'd agree with most people on this thread I wouldn't advise playing pm falco and expecting to do well as melee falco (and vise versa). Skill will carry over but it won't be 1 to 1.

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

If you don't have Netplay or anyone to train with PM Wifi could work but it does take a little time taking use to though

 

[TechMage299]

IMO PM falco and Melee falco have similar if not identical playstyles. The only difference that I've seen is that PM falco feels klunky to me. Melee falco is much smoother

I have to agree with you there, I tried both worlds and PM is just slower and a little wierder to play with.

 

[PCHU]

I feel like PM Falco's jab might be better because of the overall system, but I dunno.
I'm usually able to get more mileage out of it than Melee jab, but outside of that, the only difference is that PM Falco feels a bit more "slippery" and everything feels a lot less strict.
Seems like it's a bit harder to combo, but movement in general comes off as smoother in PM.