Press up, down, up on d-pad (taunts) to turn from Samus to Zero Suit Samus in-game

[Firestorm88]

Since I think many people stopped checking the Dojo, Sakurai decided to give them the finger and reveal something nobody knows since they're too busy making up crappy names for basic techniques!

Now, what we need is someone to test this in reverse. Does pressing up, down, up (or maybe down, up, down?) as Zero Suit Samus turn you back into Samus?

 

[Elbujo]

I dont think it works both ways, cuz then you can just keep creating armor parts.

 

[orintemple]

Yea it made it sound like it is only TO ZSS not back to Samus. That would be cheap to keep making parts. Samus is not Zelda I guess.

 

[Firestorm88]

I dont think it works both ways, cuz then you can just keep creating armor parts.

I don't see the armour bits getting much play considering Samus has missles, super missles, and charge beam while ZSS has her stun gun. Although the only way it could happen is if ZSS transforming to Samus wasn't done like the final smash.

 

[Videogamerpat]

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I'm pretty sure it's probably just to go to ZSS, most likely just so that a ZSS user doesn't screw them self over 'cause they wanted to use a smash ball. =P

 

[Gyumi]

It doesn't seem like it would work that way.
It would only work with changing back to samus(Because just before now nobody knew any other way)
Change back to ZSS using that way there would be no point in getting the final smash to change other than to just cause damage

 

[orintemple]

I don't see the armour bits getting much play considering Samus has missles, super missles, and charge beam while ZSS has her stun gun. Although the only way it could happen is if ZSS transforming to Samus wasn't done like the final smash.

The armor is actually REALLY strong damage and knockback.

In any case its gotta be a one way thing otherwise it would have been mentioned on Dojo.

 

[Burninator]

It doesn't seem like it would work that way.
It would only work with changing back to samus(Because just before now nobody knew any other way)
Change back to ZSS using that way there would be no point in getting the final smash to change other than to just cause damage

Which is exactly what MOST characters do with a Smash Ball.

EDIT: Why doesn't someone with the game just test it and end this argument? Everybody, quick! PM Brawl owners and bug them about ZSS transformation techniques!

 

[Yuna]

No, it does not work as ZSS (just tested). In fact, it doesn't work for turning Samus into ZSS either. I tried both spamming Up and Down on the D-pad and do them in turns. Nothing happens (either way).

 

[Froilen]

No, it does not work as ZSS (just tested). In fact, it doesn't work for turning Samus into ZSS either. I tried both spamming Up and Down on the D-pad and do them in turns. Nothing happens (either way).

too slow... get those buttos a good tap!!

 

[Burninator]

No, it does not work as ZSS (just tested). In fact, it doesn't work for turning Samus into ZSS either. I tried both spamming Up and Down on the D-pad and do them in turns. Nothing happens (either way).

Thing is, you’re going to have to put that command in pretty darn fast in order for it to work.

Quotes don't count as characters, but this sentence does.

 

[Japanese Monk]

No, it does not work as ZSS (just tested). In fact, it doesn't work for turning Samus into ZSS either. I tried both spamming Up and Down on the D-pad and do them in turns. Nothing happens (either way).

Lol. Sakurai cant be a liar. Taunt buttons UP DOWN UP super fast. CMONS!

 

[Yuna]

Could someone link me to this fabled Smash Dojo entry?

I've tried litterally spamming Up - Down - Up Down - Up - Down for minutes. I've tried doing just Up - Down - Up really really fast. I've tried doing it slow, nothing's happening.

 

[Japanese Monk]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/zerosuit_samus.html#3rd

 

[Burninator]

Could someone link me to this fabled Smash Dojo entry?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/zerosuit_samus.html#3rd

EDIT: Rargh, beaten.

 

[Yuna]

It speaks about "setting your taunts". Maybe you need to set written taunts to your buttons instead of using the actual character taunts. I haven't done that (and I don't even know how to), so that could explain it.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

I wonder what Sakurai's definition of really darn fast is?

Try doing it with both thumbs.

 

[ShortFuse]

Too fast = In one single frame?

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Yeah it does (Samus to ZSS)
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/zerosuit_samus.html#3rd

That update is known, why do you think this thread exists?

 

[Burninator]

By setting your taunts, it just means customizable controls. It doesn't require a written taunt.

I wonder what Sakurai's definition of really darn fast is?

A single frame, as seen in Fox's secret taunts in Venom and Corneria in Melee.

 

[Japanese Monk]

It speaks about "setting your taunts". Maybe you need to set written taunts to your buttons instead of using the actual character taunts. I haven't done that (and I don't even know how to), so that could explain it.

Well he said "if you've set the taunts to the + pad". So im thinking that was an all encompassing statement. Probably taking into note other control schemes that MIGHT not have taunts on the D pad (like the classic set-up)

Gamecube by default should be fine. I guess you just need faster fingers!

 

[Froilen]

It speaks about "setting your taunts". Maybe you need to set written taunts to your buttons instead of using the actual character taunts. I haven't done that (and I don't even know how to), so that could explain it.

it is setting your taunts.... in the +D pad.... it wont work if you have your taunt setting in other buttons... like "side taunt = Z" just to is as HELL as fats! until your hand start bleeding (or it works)

 

[InvincibleAgent]

It has nothing to do with text, he's talking about reconfiguring your button setup, which isn't required.

 

[Weed]

Yes, this is what his months of delay time were for, taunt cheats..

 

[Time/SpaceMage]

I wonder if this only works in a certain mode?

 

[MrCheez]

Hmm I can't get it to work in game either.

My poor fingers can't go any faster! ;_;

 

[Yuna]

I wonder what Sakurai's definition of really darn fast is?

Try doing it with both thumbs.

I've already tried that. I'm telling you, it must have something to do with setting custom written taunts to the D-pad.

 

[Gea]

Remember doing extender? GOGOGO.

 

[MrCheez]

O CRAP! I got it.

You have to do it REALLY fast. I had to use both my hands... turned the controller sideways and had a thumb on up and a thumb on down

When it happens it interrupts her taunt - she immediately starts to glow and kneels down and puts a hand on the floor, then light flashes from her and the armor falls off.

Tried doing it again as ZSS but nothing happens

 

[MechanisMs]

FASTER, FOOLS, FASTER! Why would there be a dissemination of false information on an OFFICIAL DOJO MESSAGE as such :[ it's clearly a lacking on your part. DESTROY YOUR FEEBLE FINGERS, >=[

EDIT!!!: @MR. Cheez: thank you, now we know that someone else (to not be named) just has some *cough* controller issues *cough* not to suggest anything about their lack of dexterity

 

[Japanese Monk]

O CRAP! I got it.

You have to do it REALLY fast. I had to use both my hands... turned the controller sideways and had a thumb on up and a thumb on down

When it happens it interrupts her taunt - she immediately starts to glow and kneels down and puts a hand on the floor, then light flashes from her and the armor falls off.

Tried doing it again as ZSS but nothing happens

Kewl. Now you knew this would happen....

Youtube it.

 

[MrCheez]

Kewl. Now you knew this would happen....

Youtube it.

I already made my thumbs sore for you guys, isn't that enough?

 

[Japanese Monk]

I already made my thumbs sore for you guys, isn't that enough?

Haha! Are you kidding? Its not going to be enough until your thumbs have SNES blisters!

 

[Yigguth]

Can you set taunts to the c stick? I think it'd be a little easier that way.

 

[jacer]

Can you set taunts to the c stick? I think it'd be a little easier that way.

yah but then you cant use the cstick to smash .. so that would be very impractical

 

[PanzerOceania]

are you sure it doesn't work with ZSS? if itś so F*CKING hard to do it at all, how can you ever be sure?

 

[Jellybelly]

Though it's a nice feature, do people really expect a lot of use out of it?

I suppose in some scenarios it might work, and in tournaments the switch was thought to be impossible.

But really, If your playing one of those 2 minute wifi battles, you'll want to play as samus until forced because zero laser is that powerful. The only way i can think of is half way through the match you decide to completely change your game, which may affect yourself more than the opponent.

I'm a fan of samus/zamus though, so any dojo updates about them are cool.

Oh as well. I doubt that it works in reverse and you can recieve her varia suit. Where would it come from? Zeldas transformation is magical, samus's is mechanical. Though i suppose i could be wrong.

 

[Gea]

It is probably one frame... as extender was. So...

 

[jacer]

Oh as well. I doubt that it works in reverse and you can recieve her varia suit. Where would it come from? Zeldas transformation is magical, samus's is mechanical. Though i suppose i could be wrong.

thats doesnt make sense... when you use zamus' FS she gains the suit back out of nowhere... so why not with the taunts.... also has anyone tested her super long grab yet... that thing was awesome to playy with and made it fun to chase noobs with the grapple beam

 

[Jellybelly]

thats doesnt make sense... when you use zamus' FS she gains the suit back out of nowhere... so why not with the taunts.... also has anyone tested her super long grab yet... that thing was awesome to playy with and made it fun to chase noobs with the grapple beam

First off, it would be specified in the dojo update whether it could work the other way.

secondly, zamuses final smash does involve her recieving her power suit, but also causing damage to those near it. So she either has an absolutely pointless final smash that does something a simple button command can do, or she can exectute her final smash anytime.