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**POSTPONED** Smash for Relief! SoCal Benefit Tournament (10/11 event is CANCELED)

UnderWing

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IMPORTANT EDIT: EVENT CANCELED/POSTPONED

That's right, as much as it pains me to say this, the tourney's been called off -- up until last week there were vital details (specifically having to do with the charity aspect of the event) still up the air, and even though they've been settled, it's simply too late in the game. I'm planning to find a date to reschedule, with *at least* 4 weeks lead time -- now that we've sorted out the logistics, a focus on providing a good tournament (hopefully with decent attendance) can be had... had we gone through with this weekend's date, it would have been disorganized at best, and many people wouldn't have been able to make it (due to the short notice).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

--UnderWing


Hey guys, time to officially announce the "SMASH FOR RELIEF!" benefit tournament that I've been planning with Oats (this post was supposed to go out over a week ago, but apparently WA sucks and doesn't want to provide me with internets... :p) Anyway, as some of you may remember, earlier this summer I was looking to throw a benefit tournament, to raise money for a non-profit org (NPO). It's finally happening, so, without further ado...


SMASH FOR RELIEF!
Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008
Time: 11:00 AM - 10:00 PM
Location: UC San Diego Campus (specifics to follow, when I can get good directions for you guys)
Events and fees: (fee/prize structure TBD)
Singles and Doubles, all attendees will have a $10 door fee which (after a small venue % cut for the use of the UCSD facilities) goes straight to the NPO.
Organizers: UnderWing, Oats/Marceux, RBNuke, with help from a multitude of other people.
Rules are being ironed out, will post final ones within the next few days.

About the NPO: The Non-Profit we've chosen to benefit is called RB United -- it's an organization that's dedicated to helping out Rancho Bernardo victims of the 2007 Wildfires. They do a lot of great work on many levels, from influencing legislation, to helping individuals who were under-insured or uninsured. They connect victims with people who can help, and offer personal support through the arduous task of insurance company negotiations and settlements, as well as rebuilding and dealing with contractors. All in all, a very worthy organization. Learn more here.

Also, some tentative information: Talking and working with RBU, they're really excited about the tournament... they're pulling some strings, and it looks like we're going to have a couple prizes to raffle off to tournament-goers! I can't say anything for certain, but they're hinting at a couple iPods. I'll have more information as the event gets closer.

Looking forward to running this tournament, sorry for the delay in getting the information out! :p

--UnderWing

EDIT: Posted a quick info page over at AiB, http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=2621

If you need to reach me with any questions, PM me here, over at AiB, or email me (underwing {at} gmail . com). My AIM's SubWinged, which also works. :p Naturally, I'll be watching this thread closely.
 

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Sounds great. Although i didnt read the entire post. ;)
 

Marceux

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Care to explain why, P, in a non-condescending and eloquent manner? The argument for a ten-dollar door fee was because part of the money goes toward a great venue, and all the rest goes to charity. The events are all 5 dollars. And there are set prizes (ipods + maybe more).
 

UnderWing

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You may be remembering a previous thread (one I had posted, and Marco replied in...) probably about 2 months ago -- it was an earlier version of essentially the same event (same Org.), but at the time of posting I hadn't secured facilities (and it was looking to be smaller than this). We've got actual solidified details now, and there's enough different about it (on top of the fact that the old thread was rightfully dead) that a new thread was the optimal course of action. Unless Marco posted while I was away, in which case I feel like an idiot for missing that post :p.

As for the door fee -- the venue's going to be great, but the way the numbers are working out has led us to the $10 decision... The costs (really only a small cut plus a fee for the use of their projector/screen setup) led us to the number, and the thing to remember is that we're not taking any of the money -- *everything* from the door fee that doesn't go to the venue is going straight to the Org., and it's an awesome cause. Just for showing up, you're automatically getting a chance at some really cool prizes, so hopefully that (on top of the "supporting an awesome cause" idea) should be enough to justify the cost in your mind.

--UnderWing

EDIT: Got the word from Marco, he had posted earlier but this is the "official" info thread now. I'd say I was rushed, etc. etc. etc., but, you know... no johns. :p This baby's official, and I think the old one's getting/gotten deleted.

Anyway, we've got communications out to more potential donors, and we'll be nailing down the raffle prizes soon. Keep your eyes on this space!
 

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Dude, it's a recession. Most smashers don't even have a car. We are a poor group of folks. $10 for a charity tournament -- when it should be obvious why that in itself would be less likely to get as many people (let's be real) -- when no other tournaments ever charge more than $5 for a venue fee is insane. Simple.

I also would think it's much more likely to get a bigger pool of attendees with a $5 venue fee, in which case you'll raise more money, than a smaller but double-the-price one. If this tournament was melee, I'd think about going to this if it was a $5 fee; now, I open this thread and would never think about going.

Remember, self-preservation is instinct No. 1.
 

UnderWing

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Posting from phone ('nets been out for a few days now, thus me going dark X\ )...

After looking at options, and some discussion with the Org., we're re-structuring fees, basically to the point of eliminating the door fee entirely. The pot will remain untouched as well, and the other aspects of the event (raffle, we're lining up more prizes than just the aforementioned ipod or two, potentially drink sales, etc.) will be the actual fund-raising aspect of the event. It'll result in less headaches on many levels, and a much more accessible tournament... the drawback being less per-capita money raised, realistically, but that's okay -- there'll be more people, and part of our goal was just publicity for RBUnited, 'cause they do great work.

Details are being worked out, and a "Now with 100% less door fee" edit will be made in the next couple days (can't from phone, if my 'net still isn't working I'll probably end up wardriving from some neighbors... or just have Marco post it).

Hopefully this'll all alleviate some of your concerns, and entice some of you back. :p

Now then, my thumbs are exhausted. **** my verbosity.

--UnderWing
 

DRaGZ

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So...

Is this just singles or will there also be doubles. I feel like you should have just the door fee and then make it just singles.
 

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Nice triple post, I like that lol.

Anyway, yeah is this really still going on? At first this seemed like a really hyped event when announced all those weeks ago. Now it's like "Wha-"

I'll see... depends who goes.
 

UnderWing

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Ok, just updated OP -- the event's been canceled, we're moving dates. There was just a lot of hecticness (that should be a word) around a lot of the details (I was dealing with the NPO, Oats was taking care of the space, bad communication and disorganization prevailed). I take full responsibility, but since we didn't have the concrete details for everyone until less than two weeks to show time, we decided it would be best to cancel and reschedule (logistically, we're fairly well prepared to throw this tournament... we already have 9+ TV's and 4+ Wii's, and we haven't even asked you guys yet). All that this delay does is increase the chance of a solid tournament with a good number of players, which in turn increases the benefit to the NPO, etc.

So here's the deal: I'm on campus now, and will be taking charge of all aspects of the tournament. I'm going to find an open date that hopefully works with people's schedules, and is far enough in the future to allow people to plan around going to it (work, etc). Depending on the dates I can get the facility, I'll post the details. We still have the iPod for the raffle, and we've worked it out to not even have a door fee. I'm sorry for the inconvenience of the reschedule, but I hope that this can still work out to be a good tournament. Now I'm off to handle the AiB post.

--UnderWing

EDIT: Added emphasis. Seriously, no fee johns -- instead, buy drinks and raffle tickets with all that money you save. :p
 

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Wow, and after you made me change the date of my tourney you guys cancel. Plan better next time plz. . . .
 

**Havok**

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Ok underwing, now promote this like crazy on AIB, here and everywhere you can think of. I'm sure smashers will come for the cause. Flyerssssss, Stat!


we'll help you in the thread.
 

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I fully admit, bad planning (I'm really sorry about that, Race) -- there were too many elements, too many links, and too many people involved, everything was bogged down. There was always a couple days of lag between anything happening and being able to make a decision about it -- Oats would find out dates that could work w/ the venue, they'd be communicated to me, I'd balance the pros/cons, talk with him about it, we'd decide, and we got a reservation -- just in time for someone else w/ better planning (*coughracecough*) to post about their tournament on the same day. Now I'm taking care of the venue reservations, the NPO stuff, and *everything* else, as far as planning goes, so it's a little more direct. (Note that it wasn't Oats' fault in any way, these are just communication johns). We didn't promote the tournament for so long simply because we didn't have solid details, and we didn't want to make a bunch of changes last minute. Ironically, that resulted in us getting here... but I'd rather have a later tournament that does more good for the NPO than an earlier one that has limited attendance just because we didn't get a chance to promote it early enough.

Nuke's already put together a poster, and it'll get posted when our new date is determined.

And I hope that whatever date we figure out works for you, Edrees -- it'd be great to have you come.

Actually, I'll just ask -- what dates work (3-6 weeks from now) for you guys? Saturdays/Sundays, obviously, and we've already got some good tournaments going on, so I'd prefer to avoid stepping on other people's toes, so to speak. I'm going to contact the venue to see which days might be available, in the mean time.

--UnderWing
 

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It does get pretty complicated if a lot of ppl are planning the event, and by that I mean there is no general leader fo the group because communication IS an issue. . .. plus everyone has to agree= takes time.

What you guys should do is get someone to be the "Leader" of the group. Someone who is responsible for the major planning coordniating and all that good stuff. Hold meetings on aim to get idea and find how you can apply them. See what are good ideas and what arent. Have the leader direct everyone towards the goal and you'll find it a lot easier. Find a sure-fire date, double check that there arent any other tourneys that day (Palmdale's bi-weekiles). And confirm that date with the venue. Then work your way towards that date, Advertise in AIB, keep intrest in the thread here in smashboards. You will get a good turn out.

Don't go planning little by little, set deadlines. IF someone is lagging either get them working or cut them off, you can't afford to let a few people ruin your tourney. All this has to be planned out a long time beforehand, call in all your assests for the tourney frequently to double check if anything is wrong orwhat not. And remeber at all time to keep things fresh and updated, people like that.

I'm not sure about your rep, but having good credebility is key. You can't expect everyone to trust your TO'ing off the bat. But then again i'm not sure if you have done this before, so i'm just throwing that out there.

I'm just giving some advice, so I hope you guys better luck next time. And if you guys wanted to I could help with your planning or give more pointers. Anyways GL
 

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It does get pretty complicated if a lot of ppl are planning the event, and by that I mean there is no general leader fo the group because communication IS an issue. . .. plus everyone has to agree= takes time.

What you guys should do is get someone to be the "Leader" of the group. Someone who is responsible for the major planning coordniating and all that good stuff. Hold meetings on aim to get idea and find how you can apply them. See what are good ideas and what arent. Have the leader direct everyone towards the goal and you'll find it a lot easier. Find a sure-fire date, double check that there arent any other tourneys that day (Palmdale's bi-weekiles). And confirm that date with the venue. Then work your way towards that date, Advertise in AIB, keep intrest in the thread here in smashboards. You will get a good turn out.

Don't go planning little by little, set deadlines. IF someone is lagging either get them working or cut them off, you can't afford to let a few people ruin your tourney. All this has to be planned out a long time beforehand, call in all your assests for the tourney frequently to double check if anything is wrong orwhat not. And remeber at all time to keep things fresh and updated, people like that.

I'm not sure about your rep, but having good credebility is key. You can't expect everyone to trust your TO'ing off the bat. But then again i'm not sure if you have done this before, so i'm just throwing that out there.

I'm just giving some advice, so I hope you guys better luck next time. And if you guys wanted to I could help with your planning or give more pointers. Anyways GL
you are definetely no Smash Apprentice General.
 

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That's basically what's happened -- responsibilities have been consolidated to a central (me) person. That's not to say I'm not getting (and appreciating) help, but I'm the central organizer, and I'm in direct control of the elements of the event planning. If nothing else, I hope that the delay will let the tournament run *smoother* when it actually happens, and I'm going to try to be fairly transparent/upfront about the details and updates as they happen -- hopefully that'll help my credibility to an extent, as it *is* my first tournament we're talking about here (and dear lord I don't want to throw an event that people look back on as a waste of a day, SoCal has had enough of those already :\). I'm investigating the rescheduling dates sometime Thursday or Friday, and I'll hopefully have the options by this weekend. I appreciate the advice, Race, and I'll probably end up taking advantage of your offer for more. :p

--UnderWing
 

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underwing when i see your name i think of upskirt and underboob

wow **** i'm corrupt
 
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