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Pokemon trainer is an official character!

commonyoshi

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I would have liked that pokemon trainer to be Koga. :(

But it's good he isn't technically on the stage, but cowarding in the backround instead. I was worried for a second.
 

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Pokemon Trainer, Red, Ash, it's all the same. I mean the guy looks like Ash. I'm betting most people are gonna call him Ash when the game comes out anyway.

And yes, I'm glad he made it. Very original character. Only time will tell if he will be balanced or not, however.
 

Umpy

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i almost craped my pants when i saw this.


he is the most orginal character up-to-date. IC's amazed me


Pokemon Trainer>IC's
 
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looks like a terrible idea.

No one likes the ice climbers, and no one wants an ICs wannabe.

Switching will either be terrible (like zelda/sheik) and you'll get combod 0-70, or it'll be broken like sheik's vanish stall @ the edge.

Terrible idea all around. I think nintendo intentionally ****s up their own games at this point just to **** with people or to see what they can get away with.
 

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i think it'll be a certain point at which the pokes are invincible during the switch

i'm an ICs player...i want them back
 

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Frankly, it just seems like a gimmick. UmbreonMow was right about how it will be freakishly easy to abuse the switch-in.

Oh, and I like Ice Climbers. >_>

Edit: I like Jigglypuff too. Both Umbreon and Wii4Mii can die in fires. :(
 

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omg why are most of you not happy with this marvelous update : (
I dunno... It's just... unusual. Read what UmbreonMow said.

Besides, I don't have to like everything about Pokemon. Watch: I hate Jigglypuff.

...Oh... No offense, jigglyppuff8.

Please don't kill me. :skull:

Until wii meet again,
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You guys aren't giving Sakurai any credit here. Do you think NO ONE in their development team thought about these issues? They wouldn't put this guy in the game unless they ABSOLUTELY thought he was balanced. I mean I thought of switch-in abuse the second I read that part of the update. You don't think they would, especially when Sakurai has explicitly stated that they have balance in mind for this game?

And how are the Ice Climbers at all related to this? You only control one pokemon at a time
 

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i agree with aryman. and since noone here has ever played the game yet, theres no point saying how broken or stupid it is. the transformation from sheik to zelda was a nice input in the game. i actually think that this is a nice idea, and another reason to get the game. there will obviously be more surprises later on.

i guess i was one of the few who were surprised and excited about this new update...
 

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I like how everyone can judge the abilities of this character from a few pictures.

"Oh you can abuse the switch to avoid damage"

Yeah? And when your opponent sees you switching pokemon what's going to stop him from charging a smash attack and hitting you just as you land on the field?

Wait until we see some video before you start complaining the character is broken. At least the team is trying to bring unique players to the game instead of the same old stuff we've already seen.
 

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i agree with aryman. and since noone here has ever played the game yet, theres no point saying how broken or stupid it is. the transformation from sheik to zelda was a nice input in the game. i actually think that this is a nice idea, and another reason to get the game. there will obviously be more surprises later on.

i guess i was one of the few who were surprised and excited about this new update...
I like how everyone can judge the abilities of this character from a few pictures.

"Oh you can abuse the switch to avoid damage"

Yeah? And when your opponent sees you switching pokemon what's going to stop him from charging a smash attack and hitting you just as you land on the field?

Wait until we see some video before you start complaining the character is broken. At least the team is trying to bring unique players to the game instead of the same old stuff we've already seen.
i agree with both of you and i think the pokemon trainer is going to be a really fun character to play with wether he is broken or not
 

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It's a curious idea. I wonder how Ivysaur would recover from a distance. I would imagine Squirtle would use rapid spin or skull bash and Charizard seems rather obvious.
 

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with its vine whip of course.

in the anime, bulbasaur uses its vine to lift itself from the ground.
 
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At least the team is trying to bring unique players to the game instead of the same old stuff we've already seen.
"Unique" is not a good thing to have in competitive games, which I think most people want brawl to be. Ice Climbers were "unique". No one likes the IC except IC players. Switching between zelda and sheik was also unique- so unique that no one uses it, since most players choose either zelda or sheik and then do not switch. Yoshi's shield is unique. So is ness's recover. unique generally sucks.

While I'm calling predictions, I predict ivysaur will be gay to fight against.
 

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if no one had anything unique about them, the game would be boring. the pokemon trainer here is extremely unique. which i think gets people excited about the game even more and will add more excitement in the game itself.

btw on ign, i checked the top 10 games and everytime a new update was made for a game, it would rise to number 1 or 2 most of the time. it happened with halo 3's flamethrower...just a random find.
 

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"Unique" is not a good thing to have in competitive games, which I think most people want brawl to be. Ice Climbers were "unique". No one likes the IC except IC players. Switching between zelda and sheik was also unique- so unique that no one uses it, since most players choose either zelda or sheik and then do not switch. Yoshi's shield is unique. So is ness's recover. unique generally sucks.

While I'm calling predictions, I predict ivysaur will be gay to fight against.
Did you ever consider that most people don't switch between Zelda and Shiek because they main one of them not both? You're only focusing on things you don't like.

Kirby and Jiggs have distinct jumps I guess those suck. Peach has a rather different recovery technique, that sucks too right? Unlike other characters Fox has a almost guaranteed reflect technique. Ugh, lame.

What's your definiton of sucks anyways? Recently people have asked that a technique only the IC's can perform be banned. If it sucked so much why would anyone want it banned? Unless of course it doesn't.
 

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_Slick_, you have an awesome avatar.

Come on UmbreonMow, I thought you'd be a better sport than that.



Sheesh, 4chan is right about many smashboardians. It's not about winning, tiers, and competition. I am amazed by this new character out of sheer coolness factor. That's what really sells it for me. Who gives a **** if Bowser sucks in Melee, people will still use him because they are fans. Look at Gimpyfish. He doesn't have too many qualms about losing just because his character sucks. He loves Bowser and his cuteness, and I'm sure fans out there will love Ash/Red/PKMN Trainer simply because they are fans.

For the record, I am a competitive Ice Climbers player >_> and it's not just IC players who enjoy the way they are used. Not everyone hates IC.

When Brawl comes out, I am going to use Peach, Z/Samus, Zelda, and other female characters just because they're cute. (That's why I pick Red IC's, cuz Nana is in front.)
 

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To add to the subject of uniqueness, if I played a fighting game without unique characters, then I wouldn't bother playing it again. I prefer more unique characters than clones with different stats. That's why I loved SSB and SSBM, unique characters with unique ways to play each.

_Slick_, you have an awesome avatar.

Come on UmbreonMow, I thought you'd be a better sport than that.



Sheesh, 4chan is right about many smashboardians. It's not about winning, tiers, and competition. I am amazed by this new character out of sheer coolness factor. That's what really sells it for me. Who gives a **** if Bowser sucks in Melee, people will still use him because they are fans. Look at Gimpyfish. He doesn't have too many qualms about losing just because his character sucks. He loves Bowser and his cuteness, and I'm sure fans out there will love Ash/Red/PKMN Trainer simply because they are fans.

For the record, I am a competitive Ice Climbers player >_> and it's not just IC players who enjoy the way they are used. Not everyone hates IC.

When Brawl comes out, I am going to use Peach, Z/Samus, Zelda, and other female characters just because they're cute. (That's why I pick Red IC's, cuz Nana is in front.)
Wow, and I thought I was the only one here that went to 4chan. Though, 4chan has it's share of jerks as well when it comes to SSBM and Brawl.

Though, Bowser doesn't realy suck in melee. You just have to put more strategy into using him. I am a Bowser player, well I play mostly bottom tier anyway. I recall once in a three person free for all against two skilled Fox players and double KO them with Bowser. If someone can use Bowser well against Fox players, then Bowser doesn't suck.
 

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It's a curious idea. I wonder how Ivysaur would recover from a distance. I would imagine Squirtle would use rapid spin or skull bash and Charizard seems rather obvious.
I assumed the same thing, though I can see Ivysaur having no up+b recovery. Although...

with its vine whip of course.

in the anime, bulbasaur uses its vine to lift itself from the ground.
This is plausible. Not a bad idea. Grapple hook/beam anyone?

Did you ever consider that most people don't switch between Zelda and Shiek because they main one of them not both? You're only focusing on things you don't like.

Kirby and Jiggs have distinct jumps I guess those suck. Peach has a rather different recovery technique, that sucks too right? Unlike other characters Fox has a almost guaranteed reflect technique. Ugh, lame.

What's your definiton of sucks anyways? Recently people have asked that a technique only the IC's can perform be banned. If it sucked so much why would anyone want it banned? Unless of course it doesn't.
QFT. At the same time, it all comes down to a matter of prefrence, and opinion.

We could sit here all day and argue why these characters are broken, suck, overused, etc.


I knew where I was going with this... and then I lost it... **** you A.D.D.+ horrible memory loss...

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Um, how is this a technique that only the IC can only perform? It's switching, not having two characters...
See below.

I was talking about Wobbling.
 

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Ivysaur could flap its big leaves for an aerial boost. Maybe like a stun spore attack, that when done on the ground spreads the spores on either side of him and when done in the air serves as a recovery.
 

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Ivysaur could flap its big leaves for an aerial boost. Maybe like a stun spore attack, that when done on the ground spreads the spores on either side of him and when done in the air serves as a recovery.
Could work, though I think Ivysaur would be a little heavy to have something like that. The vines make more sense, respectively.
 

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nah flapping it's wings to fly is something tropius would do cuz its grass/flying.

vines ftw~
 

Tau

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This is cool and all but... What is his Final Smash???
it hasn't been announced yet.. but i do wonder what it will be, maybe all of the pokemon attacking at once? idk..

anyways, this character looks cool.
 

Blues7

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it hasn't been announced yet.. but i do wonder what it will be, maybe all of the pokemon attacking at once? idk..

anyways, this character looks cool.
All attacking at once? That's an odd one. I would expect the staff to do something similiar with PKMN Trainer that is done with Bowser for the final smash. Except, instead of transforming or whatever, pkmn trainer will call back whoever is out and send out some powerhouse poke.

If so, who would it be? I'm speaking hypothetically, of course.
 

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All attacking at once? That's an odd one. I would expect the staff to do something similiar with PKMN Trainer that is done with Bowser for the final smash. Except, instead of transforming or whatever, pkmn trainer will call back whoever is out and send out some powerhouse poke.

If so, who would it be? I'm speaking hypothetically, of course.
Garchomp would fit in the "Powerhouse" title.
 

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If they don't use the power techniques such as Frenzy Plant it will probably be a legendary poke. It's just hard to imagine them using one. Mew maybe?

Or it could be something kind of strange like the pokemon trainer captures the other fighters in pokeballs . You can then throw them off the edge or something like that.
 

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Or it could be something kind of strange like the pokemon trainer captures the other fighters in pokeballs . You can then throw them off the edge or something like that.
heh.. XD

i guess that mew would be good for the final smash.
 

Nintencore88

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What would be great would be insted of the trainer put in Hitmonlee or Machamp in Super Smash
 

lowradiation8989

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ew no..........having a fire red trainer with the original 3 starters is classic........putting hitmonlee or machamp instead would only bring him/them dishonor

tho i wish they used the ash ketchum avatar from the ORIGINAL red and blue!
 
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