PM-Centric Podcast 'The Salt Mines' Broadcasting Tonight

[The Derrit]

The Project M community has recently been party to a number of setbacks. Many major community members and streamers have dropped the game from their repertoire in rapid succession, saying little as to why these decisions have been made. While many have a hazy sense of what's going on, The Salt Mines hopes to clarify the recent situation as well as help the Project M community stand on its own two feet. Tonight's episode also features MIOM | tafokints as a guest.

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The Derrit loves to see PM doing stuff like this. Chat with him on Twitter at @TheDerrit.

 

[Zad]

Project M <3

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Wait, this thing is still alive?

Nah, jk. Hope it goes well.

 

[Jigglystep]

..what is this "Project M"?

*nervously glances side to side in fear of Nintendo ninjas*

 

[TheDarkMysteryMan]

Let's do our best to keep what we love and appreciate survive. With stuff like this i'm glad to see the community finds ways to work this situation out.

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

Metroid: Project Other M

 

[LandMaster]

It's too bad project M is starting to fade away just when it seemed to get more and more popular.

 

[Snagrio]

Salt Mines huh?

 

[AirFair]

PM was actually pretty good. Wonder what will happen now.

 

[warriorman222]

Project: Yet AnOther M

 

[Icebeatsfire]

Project M LIVES...
*gets decapitated by the ninja's of nintendo

 

[Lizalfos]

I hate all the "this game is dead" nonsense.

Nothing really happened, except for VGBC and like 2 majors dropping it.
That is almost nothing. It just caused a momentary lack of visibility.

S@X PM is still streamed, just not by GIMR. Absolutely nothing has changed.

 

[_gold_]

Hang in there PM

 

[;Juice-And-Eggs;]

Shhhh.... We must not let the Nintencops know about this... Kappa

 

[waterlong]

..what is this "Project M"?

*nervously glances side to side in fear of Nintendo ninjas*

Project M is a mod for smash bros brawl that makes the game play similarly to competitive smash bros melee.

 

[Streetwize]

Project M is a mod for smash bros brawl that makes the game play similarly to competitive smash bros melee.

I'm pretty sure the person knows what Project M is and was likely joking.

 

[Lizalfos]

I'm pretty sure the person knows what Project M is and was likely joking.

I'm pretty sure that this person knew that the other person knew what project M is and was likely joking and the more recent person was also likely joking.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's too bad project M is starting to fade away just when it seemed to get more and more popular.

True. no one at my college plays it anymore. Its all Smash 4 which Im ok with

 

[dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523]

PM's gonna be back on top in a matter of no time. It's just up to TO's to keep hosting stuff, streamers to keep streaming, and it's still really popular on a casual level. I don't see it dying for a long time.

 

[Keman]

This was a great episode I have to say, they talked about some great points and covered a lot of issues. (don't forget all episodes and interviews are uploaded to YouTube also, so you can go back and watch older episodes too) https://www.youtube.com/user/messinyclive

 

[himemiya]

I blame nintendo trying to ***** smash4, which is a total bore.

 

[Quillion]

Hey everyone, why don't we turn to SD Remix in the meantime? At least since it's relatively small-scale and its community is small, Nintendo isn't very aware of it (just keep SDR on the relatively down-low for it to work).

NorCal had a pretty legit SDR tournament recently. You can check it out on glook's YouTube channel.

 

[Sen. Sawft]

It's okay to talk about PM now, right?
Right?

 

[Kingkool]

I think if we can get PM back on it's feet again it can go back to the way it was if not better. I understand the fear that made so many community members stop supporting it but it's not as bad as everyone thinks. it's not a game stealing Nintendo's properties, It's Brawl, a game made by Nintendo, we just changed it a little bit. Some games even support modding and put the option right on the main menu, If we stopped treating it like taboo it would stop being taboo.

 

[◥θ┴θ◤ | JJ]

I think if we can get PM back on it's feet again it can go back to the way it was if not better. I understand the fear that made so many community members stop supporting it but it's not as bad as everyone thinks. it's not a game stealing Nintendo's properties, It's Brawl, a game made by Nintendo, we just changed it a little bit. Some games even support modding and put the option right on the main menu, If we stopped treating it like taboo it would stop being taboo.

>we just changed it a little bit
>a little bit

Understatement of the century.

 

[Aninymouse]

I think if we can get PM back on it's feet again it can go back to the way it was if not better. I understand the fear that made so many community members stop supporting it but it's not as bad as everyone thinks. it's not a game stealing Nintendo's properties, It's Brawl, a game made by Nintendo, we just changed it a little bit. Some games even support modding and put the option right on the main menu, If we stopped treating it like taboo it would stop being taboo.

Whether or not it is allowed is the sole discretion of the content creator. There's room for journalism, parody, and the like, but full-blown derivative works done without permission are another thing. I'm not here to debate what's legal or not, I just see it as a matter or principle and integrity. If you respected Nintendo as intellectual owners, you'd at least ask their permission. Some companies might allow or encourage modding or hacking, but that was their decision. Silence on a matter does not always equal permission.

So, go ahead and flame me or whatever. I am ambivalent towards PM and I wish you guys well. I don't agree with the premise of the project, but it's not my problem and I don't even play PM, anyway. I'm more than happy to leave you guys alone 90% of the time. I just came into this thread to see what the news post was about and I saw a comment that really seemed misguided, so I felt like I could help with some perspective.

 

[Tino]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo does finds out about Project M.

 

[NTG]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo does finds out about Project M.

lol at the thought that they don't know about it yet.

that said, it's less about it not being allowed typically (just look at Counterstrike, DayZ, dozens of others) and more about Nintendo not supporting it.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo does finds out about Project M.

They know about it but they are hush hush about their statement/view on it.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

it's not a game stealing Nintendo's properties, It's Brawl, a game made by Nintendo, we just changed it a little bit.

Its a mod that you HACKED into Brawl to do, get real

 

[NotaSkeleton]

Oh, sweet. I love podcasts and I could really use a Smash centric one.

 

[TLE_MegaMan]

Still upset that everybody is getting rid of PM from all major tournaments.

 

[FunkyPanda]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo does finds out about Project M.

They Already Know About it........

 

[FunkyPanda]

Its a mod that you HACKED into Brawl to do, get real

First of All arent all mods hacked second, you require BRAWLS DISC

 

[Monk of MaZe]

It's too bad project M is starting to fade away just when it seemed to get more and more popular.

Less fading away and more like being killed off by Nintendo

 

[StarshipGroove]

i hope they talk about reverting pm 3.5 to 3.02

 

[FunkyPanda]

i hope they talk about reverting pm 3.5 to 3.02

I know some of the changes were wierd and unnecessary and I feel were only made for the sake of being diffrent Like warios grab not having a animation and squirtles side B

 

[LiamBarrak1999]

I hate all the "this game is dead" nonsense.

Nothing really happened, except for VGBC and like 2 majors dropping it.
That is almost nothing. It just caused a momentary lack of visibility.

S@X PM is still streamed, just not by GIMR. Absolutely nothing has changed.

So, then what channel is streaming S@X PM?

 

[Deleted member]

You know what could help Project M right now? Provide some information on what plans they'll have for 4.0, which (might) come out as early as the end of this year.

 

[SleezyWeezel]

Ugh, way to go Nintendo for trying to kill off something great. Honestly if Brawl wasn't so terrible none of this would happen lmao.