PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

I don't have too many suggestions for this thread.

This is all I ask.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I think he means it should have just been a texture. I also think he's crazy; the costume is amazing.

I honestly think he's right. It's kinda lame.

Couldn't even tell the eyes were any different until I saw this render.

I'm afraid I don't understand your logic. I know that both sexes can be sexually exploited, I'm just saying that Nintendo has really only done so with very few characters, and it just so happens their most popular female character is not represented in a way that dignifies her back story. Greatest bounty hunter, prodigy of the chozo, high ranking military officer =/= skin tight latex, sometimes exposed midriff, high heels (the shoes make absolutely no sense in a combat setting)

Granted, given the design of the power suit Samus cannot wear particularly cumbersome clothing, but that does not excuse the blatant fan-service Nintendo includes in Metroid games. Nearly every game in the series rewards players with high completion percentages and fast finishing times with images of Samus in little clothing. After finishing her epic missions through treacherous alien planets, after participating in hostile enemy encounters, what happens next? Her accomplishments are discarded and she is treated as a pin-up girl. There is no dignity in that.

There is a difference between being sexually alluring and being purposely designed to be sexually exploited. If you enjoy the Justin Bailey or Zero Suit clothing, fine, that correlates with your own tastes and I have no business telling you otherwise. However, being sexy shouldn't define Samus, yet it does as soon as the armor comes off.

Or maybe she's just taking off the armor to relax after another long day on the job just like any other woman, or person for that matter?

Sheesh, you sound like a raging feminist. It's not that big of a deal.

 

[ChronoBound]

We're not doing a full Virtual Boy ROB set or anything, it's just one outfit. I'm not seeing the issue or confusion here.

I have to praise the Virtual Boy ROB. Its level of detail is impeccable. Good job on it along with the other costumes.

 

[F. Blue]

I await the day we're all upres-ing Project M with Dolphin and can finally appreciate these fine details.

 

[Malion]

I like that virtual boy rob. makes me think there should be a palette representing every nintendo console though.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I have to praise the Virtual Boy ROB. Its level of detail is impeccable. Good job on it along with the other costumes.

"Level of detail"? Hardly anything has really been changed aside from the eyes and the "Virtual Boy" label on there!

Am I missing something here? -.o'

Aside from the 1-800 number?

 

[Friesnchip]

Or maybe she's just taking off the armor to relax after another long day on the job just like any other woman, or person for that matter?

Sheesh, you sound like a raging feminist. It's not that big of a deal.

I wouldn't say raging, but I am displeased. Most women relaxing after a long day don't throw on heels and spandex though, just saying.

And you're right, it isn't a big deal, but I do feel Samus deserves a bit more respectable attire in her games. I just think think her Zero Suit portrayal devalues her accomplishments, at the end of he day she's more than a pretty face, and should be treated as such. That's all I'm saying here, not trying to 'rage' or anything.

 

[Malion]

"Level of detail"? Hardly anything has really been changed aside from the eyes and the "Virtual Boy" label on there!

Am I missing something here? -.o'

zoom in deep and you can see wario's woods in 3d in the eyes.

 

[Cereal Bawks]

Don't get me wrong, I like the costume and I think it's really good. I just don't think it's different enough that it should be an alt, IMO.

 

[ChronoBound]

"Level of detail"? Hardly anything has really been changed aside from the eyes and the "Virtual Boy" label on there!

Am I missing something here? -.o'

Its extremely well made. The eye pieces look just like the viewing lenses to an actual Virtual Boy and there is also the help hotline number on it, as well the adjustment dial on top of the head. I am probably one of the few people that owns a Virtual Boy so I like those little extra details.

(the Virtual Boy actually did have a few decent games for it, particularly the amazing Virtual Boy Wario Land, which may be the pinnacle to the Wario Land series).

 

[Friesnchip]

"Level of detail"? Hardly anything has really been changed aside from the eyes and the "Virtual Boy" label on there!

Am I missing something here? -.o'

Aside from the 1-800 number?

The entire head has been remodeled as a Virtual Boy! Not to mention little details here and there like new labels.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I wouldn't say raging, but I am displeased. Most women relaxing after a long day don't throw on heels and spandex though, just saying.

And you're right, it isn't a big deal, but I do feel Samus deserves a bit more respectable attire in her games. I just think think her Zero Suit portrayal devalues her accomplishments, at the end of he day she's more than a pretty face, and should be treated as such. That's all I'm saying here, not trying to 'rage' or anything.

Honestly, I just can't agree with you.

I don't see it as "at the end of the day, she's not just another pretty face". I see it as it being that at the end of the day, armor or not, she's still Samus Aran. She does things in her own way and her own style regardless of what anyone thinks about it. No more or little amount of clothing or armor changes that. How others respect her isn't important, it's how she sees and respects herself and lives freely as she chooses.

Unless it's Other M Samus where suddenly one crotchety old fart's thoughts mean the world to her and she makes herself a housewife in the kitchen, but we don't talk about that. XD

zoom in deep and you can see wario's woods in 3d in the eyes.

Its extremely well made. The eye pieces look just like the viewing lenses to an actual Virtual Boy and there is also the help hotline number on it, as well the adjustment dial on top of the head. I am probably one of the few people that owns a Virtual Boy so I like those little extra details.

(the Virtual Boy actually did have a few decent games for it, particularly the amazing Virtual Boy Wario Land, which may be the pinnacle to the Wario Land series).

Pretty sure I stated this last page or the page before it, but as someone who isn't a Nintendo fan and doesn't study or memorize everything in it's history from eons ago, I don't even know what the **** a Virtual Boy is. To me, this just looks like a red and black R.O.B. with binoculars for eyes that someone can only really see if they pause and look at him close enough. And even then, it just looks like the circles for his eyes were made into squares.

So simply put, I guess I just can't appreciate it. It's not interesting at all to me. Ancient Minister still would've been more appealing. *shrugs* Oh well.

The entire head has been remodeled as a Virtual Boy! Not to mention little details here and there like new labels.

Already pointed out the small labels and aside from the eyes, the head still looks the same shape to me.

 

[Xinc]

So... about Marth... now that his SSB4 colors resemble that of Shadow Dragon, does that mark out FE11/FE12 Marth outfits of alt costumes?

 

[Paradoxium]

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a model import from brawlvault and a costume on this new engine?

 

[MetalMan]

For Zero Suit Samus Id like to see her retro look and her short hair military outfit. Inside the armor though, oh God, Im pretty sure she has a suit for each color basically.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, a couple of her suits are just recolors so Samus could very well be

Standard(Orange Yellow)
Gravity Suit(Purple recolor basically)
Phazon Suit(Black/grey/red)
Some colors for Team battle

And then alternate costumes as
Light Suit
Dark Suit
PED enabled Suit + Corruption
Fusion Suit

 

[Giygacoal]

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a model import from brawlvault and a costume on this new engine?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not really a "difference", but rather that the engine provides features such as single-slot idiosyncrasies (such as Dr. Mario's electric effects) for custom models, as well as the ability to go beyond Brawl's number of costume slots. So costumes in this engine are allowed to have more stuff that would normally completely use up character slots.

 

[Xebenkeck]

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a model import from brawlvault and a costume on this new engine?

Deeer, I think you mean what does this engine do?

Because most things on Brawl Vault require you to replace one of the default costumes of a character. Where this engine has created "new" slots for costumes where you dont have to replace anything to add them.

EDIT, DAM NINJAS, THEY POO ON MY STYLE

 

[Xinc]

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a model import from brawlvault and a costume on this new engine?

Long story short, PMBR makes the costumes for this new engine, while model import is... well... an imported model (not made)

 

[Giygacoal]

Long story short, PMBR makes the costumes for this new engine, while model import is... well... an imported model (not made)

an imported model is just new one that was rigged right onto the skeleton (as opposed to a vertex edit).

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Long story short, PMBR makes the costumes for this new engine, while model import is... well... an imported model (not made)

That's not very accurate since a lot of model imports ARE in fact custom made models nowadays. They aren't all just models from other games.

 

[Chzrm3]

I like that virtual boy rob. makes me think there should be a palette representing every nintendo console though.

Oh man, that would be hooooot! Purple and black R.O.B. with orange eyes, White and blue R.O.B. with blue eyes.... mmmmhmmmm!!!

 

[Solbliminal]

zoom in deep and you can see wario's woods in 3d in the eyes.

Actually, it is Mario Tennis. I've owned and played a VB and one of the very few games I owned was Mario Tennis. There is no mistaking it. You can see the tennis court, ball, and net. In fact:

Spoiler

This appears to be the image they used.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

So... about Marth... now that his SSB4 colors resemble that of Shadow Dragon, does that mark out FE11/FE12 Marth outfits of alt costumes?

I hope not. I really like that costume and think it would be perfect as an Alt for Marth. Or someone else could just make FE12 styled Marth and I could replace that individually. Either way, I'd be happy.

 

[Malion]

Actually, it is Mario Tennis. I've owned and played a VB and one of the very few games I owned was Mario Tennis. There is no mistaking it. You can see the tennis court, ball, and net. In fact:

Spoiler

This appears to be the image they used.

I'll admit what I said was mostly a joke. I wasn't seriously suggesting they had a game image in his eyes but hot damn they do! That's pretty insane right there.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Vanguard Ike or Lord Ike it would be really awesome to play with either....


Lord Ike:

Vanguard Ike:

Hero Ike:

( Hero Ike sure looks good too and that Sword is just amazing it's called the "Ettard" )

 

[sokaru]

Zamus's boobs much ​​bigger! :D

And for Sheik, I found this...hylian Sheik

Spoiler

 

[GunBlaze]

Too Princess Zelda-ish for my taste.

 

[Taiko]

I have to say, the costumes are very well done. Outset Link looks much better than I could have expected!
Though, it seems odd that not all the costumes are going to have recolours. Personally, I'd rather have even just the team colours for Outset Link, rather than say, Conductor Link. With the main advantage this has over cBliss being advertised as having "support for Team Colors with its added costumes," it seems really weird that not everyone will support the feature.

Also, considering the work and quality of these, it seems like a waste of something that could be truly amazing. Though I see that it could be a bit difficult, I'm sure there are solutions. With Virtual Boy ROB for example, his team colours would stand out with the rest of the body being black, so I think that could work. Even adding slight colour to the black would work I think, and you'd still be able to differentiate Virtual Boy ROB from his default red, while still being able to see that it's a different costume than default ROB as well.

 

[OrangeSodaGuy]

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a Sigurd or Celice costume for Marth (NOT a reskin, just Marth wearing the same outfits that they wore in FE4). Jugdral is so sadly underappreciated in SSB.....

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a Sigurd or Celice costume for Marth (NOT a reskin, just Marth wearing the same outfits that they wore in FE4). Jugdral is so sadly underappreciated in SSB.....

IMHO it's sadly overrated at the same time, I do love jugdral (Fire Emblem 5 is tied with Radiant Dawn as my favorite) but Aesthetically I don't think it's that good the artstyle is terrible which makes me wonder why do you Marth to wear the armor of Seliph and Sigurd ? I think a recoloring will do the job because there isn't much of a difference in the armors they wear.

 

[MasterScrub]

I really can't say I agree with making some costumes one slot only. At least make team colors for all of them.

 

[Malion]

Zamus's boobs much ​​bigger! :D

And for Sheik, I found this...hylian Sheik

Spoiler

I'd be down for a Zelda coloured Sheik and Sheik coloured Zelda imo.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Is there a list of which alternative costume characters get Team Colors and which don't? Melee Link as well as Lobster Pajamas Link seem like good candidates for Team Colors and I hope they consider adding them if they haven't.

Other additions like Virtual Boy ROB seem more like a single costume idea that doesn't translate as well with alternative colors.

 

[GP&B]

OoT Link has been confirmed to at least have team colors.

 

[GunBlaze]

Relevant:

 

[BronzeGreekGod]

Damn, I just thought of a skin I wana see, but then realized it would break the PMBR's rules

But anyway... I want a Funky Kong skin.

 

[sokaru]

What do you think about something like this?

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=18020

 

[MLGF]

Ya know, not everything needs to have boobs.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Ya know, not everything needs to have boobs.

You **** young boys, MLGF?

Spoiler

In case you don't get the reference, yes. I am joking. ¦D

 

[batistabus]

I like that virtual boy rob. makes me think there should be a palette representing every nintendo console though.

One billion times this.

Also, make one based on the Antikythera mechanism, please.