PM Arts and Alts Thread

[CBO0tz]

Maybe we can have MK's melee trophy a an alt?

or or would it look too similar to Normal Meta Knight if updated to Brawl graphics? Maybe he can keep the same look as the trophy.

I could see that happening; it's got some pretty subtle enough differences.. I mean, look at Smash64 C. Falcon they just showed off last Tuesday. The Blue tint on everything with the red sword screams Red palette swap to me.

 

[U-Throw]

I've got no objection to Melee-Trophy Meta Knight, but because Meta Knight has two Alts. already, and Quick Draw Meta Knight having been teased, I can't help but think that maybe instead of devoting an entire slot to Melee-Trophy MK, we should carry over a couple elements from this render, since that brings his total costume count to 9. I feel like this could take up an extra slot and I'd be fine, but there are also better options, like Western Meta Knight, in my opinion.
Hold on a sec, what if we gave Western Meta Knight Red Galaxia from his Melee Trophy? I don't believe that sticker showed a sword if any sort, just a gun, so I think it could work.

 

[arcticfox8]

Meta Knight has one alt
Dark MK is a recolor

 

[U-Throw]

Meta Knight has one alt
Dark MK is a recolor

Are you sure? Dark Meta Knight has a slash on his mask and tattered cape/pair of wings. See for yourself: http://m.imgur.com/a/BbDD6
I may be wrong, so correct me if I am, but I'm pretty sure Dark Meta Knight is a Alt. Costume.

 

[Friesnchip]

Are you sure? Dark Meta Knight has a slash on his mask and tattered cape/pair of wings. See for yourself: http://m.imgur.com/a/BbDD6
I may be wrong, so correct me if I am, but I'm pretty sure Dark Meta Knight is a Alt. Costume.

The term the PMDT associates with this, along with Sonic's Tails/Shadow/Silver recolors, is 'semi-alt' costume.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Meta Knight has one alt
Dark MK is a recolor

While this is true, his point still stands.

 

[Draco_The]

So... what for tomorrow? Animations? Costumes? New GUI? NEW CHARACTER???

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

So... what for tomorrow? Animations? Costumes? New GUI? NEW CHARACTER???

If not a new costume then I'd like to see a new stage. Nobody really talks about stages, even though they're an important part of the game. Hopefully they'll add new stages without replacing any old ones. I know you can do that, but they don't work with random select. Maybe they found a way around that.

 

[Nanobuds]

If not a new costume then I'd like to see a new stage. Nobody really talks about stages, even though they're an important part of the game. Hopefully they'll add new stages without replacing any old ones. I know you can do that, but they don't work with random select. Maybe they found a way around that.

That, and it corrupts the My Music data, and causes freezes when accessing some stage's custom music.

 

[NinfanNanz]

So... what for tomorrow? Animations? Costumes? New GUI? NEW CHARACTER???

I think that question will be answered..................tomorrow.

 

[GFooChombey]

That, and it corrupts the My Music data, and causes freezes when accessing some stage's custom music.

Didn't someone figure out a way around that a few months ago?

 

[CBO0tz]

Well apparently on r/SSBPM people are having discussions about how the PMDT wants the people to have them change Skyloft into either a competitive map, a casual map, or replace it with a new map entirely.

 

[Draco_The]

Well apparently on r/SSBPM people are having discussions about how the PMDT wants the people to have them change Skyloft into either a competitive map, a casual map, or replace it with a new map entirely.

http://smashboards.com/threads/official-stage-discussion-mark-i-skyloft.372723/

 

[batistabus]

Please, please, pleeeeeeeeeease have a Danky Kang alt for DK. This is something that could ONLY fly in PM, and it would be glorious.

 

[U-Throw]

Please, please, pleeeeeeeeeease have a Danky Kang alt for DK. This is something that could ONLY fly in PM, and it would be glorious.

Do you mean Lanky Kong? Yeah, Lanky's cool. He was always my favorite Kong as a kid. We sorta already have a Lanky palette swap, though:

Its the 3rd one from the left.

 

[StarshipGroove]

Maybe Ness can get a Runaway Five shirt?
Or Jiggs with a green Mohawk?
Lucas with sweater, knit and signed by Hinawa? Or pajamas? DCMC shirt?
Melee MK looks nice

So many costumes, so little time.
The costumes from PM unlocked look great too.

 

[batistabus]

Do you mean Lanky Kong?

No.

 

[ConDeeCas]

No.

Sadly, that was confirmed to be a badly photoshopped pic. Would still love a derpy DK alt, though. (Along with Lonk and Pech)

 

[McSlur]

So I told someone about Jet Set Sonic. He loved it, and said that now we need a Barney Bowser.

I never knew I wanted BB until now.

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

Sort of confused about the costume limit for characters. Why do Mario, Fox and etc cap out at 10 costumes while Wario has had 12 since Brawl? Is this a coding limitation of some kind that Wario is an exception to?

 

[Shin F.]

Sort of confused about the costume limit for characters. Why do Mario, Fox and etc cap out at 10 costumes while Wario has had 12 since Brawl? Is this a coding limitation of some kind that Wario is an exception to?

It's a cosmetic limit. Most characters only have 10 slots due to the way their files are numbered. For instance, Mario's first Battle Portrait is numbered 001, then his next is 002, etc. Looking at Donkey Kong, his BPs begin at 011, which means that if you gave Mario an 11th costume, it would overlap with DK's cosmetics. Theoretically, it'll be functional, but you'd have DK's face on the bottom where the damage percents are instead of Mario's, which not only looks bad but could get confusing.

Likewise, Link's numbering starts at 021, so if you tried to give DK more than 10, you'd have the same issue as the one I described above.

Most characters follow this pattern, but the cosmetic slot after Wario's is empty, so his last two costumes don't overlap with another character like would happen with most others.

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

That makes sense - 10 is a good number anyway.

 

[Shin F.]

That makes sense - 10 is a good number anyway.

Yeah.

It's worth mentioning that although Wario is currently the only character who takes advantage of it, he's not the only one who has an empty slot after his own. There are a couple of others in his situation. Ganondorf, ROB, Toon Link, Wolf, and Sonic all have empty cosmetic slots after their own, so they could have twelve costumes without the issue I mentioned above. In fact, I think (don't know for sure) that M2K's cBliss tool is already capable of doing this.

Of course, they may want to save those empty cosmetic slots for new Clone Engine characters. Who knows?

 

[U-Throw]

Yeah.

It's worth mentioning that although Wario is currently the only character who takes advantage of it, he's not the only one who has an empty slot after his own. There are a couple of others in his situation. Ganondorf, ROB, Toon Link, Wolf, and Sonic all have empty cosmetic slots after their own, so they could have twelve costumes without the issue I mentioned above. In fact, I think (don't know for sure) that M2K's cBliss tool is already capable of doing this.

Of course, they may want to save those empty cosmetic slots for new Clone Engine characters. Who knows?

So, how would they "transfer" the cosmetic slots to new Clone Engine's country? Like, how does that work? Could you theoretically, transfer, say, one of Wario's costume slots, to someone like Mario? Or is it sort of an isolated situation? Finally (I know I'm asking a lot), but do you know why those isolated few characters have extra slots after the standard 10?

 

[Shin F.]

So, how would they "transfer" the cosmetic slots to new Clone Engine's country? Like, how does that work? Could you theoretically, transfer, say, one of Wario's costume slots, to someone like Mario? Or is it sort of an isolated situation? Finally (I know I'm asking a lot), but do you know why those isolated few characters have extra slots after the standard 10?

There wouldn't be any transfer involved, per say - those slots aren't actually assigned to any character. They're just plain empty, and happen to exist after those characters. Let's take Ganondorf as an example.

Ganondorf's Battle Portrait numbering starts at 191. Normally, the next character's numbering would start at 201, which means you'd have to stop Ganondorf's costumes at 200, which would give him ten costumes.

However, for whatever reason, 201-210 don't belong to any character at all. They are empty. Personally, I find it likely they were meant to belong to a cut character. Whatever the case, this means you can keep on adding costumes to Ganondorf without worrying about hitting another character's numbers.

Or, it's possible that PMBR could create a new character and place their cosmetics in those ten slots. They did so with Roy, using an empty slot that existed after Wario's second slot.

Giving them to any other character would require a lot of work since they don't come directly after the other characters' slots. With Ganondorf, you're just counting up from his naturally existing slots. With, say, Mario, you'd be specifically coding to have him load from one of these slots for only one costume and none of the others, and I'm not even sure if that's possible.

 

[CBO0tz]

I feel like there's been a lot of mods on Brawl Vault that look of good quality enough to be PM official. One mod in particular that I'm looking at and wondering about is this version of Brawl FD that makes it function exactly the same as Melee FD:

Would people play this version of FD over the current one? Or is it just me that would like it.. I'd play it if it was pink and purple like Melee FD.
Like this.

 

[Xermo]

I feel like there's been a lot of mods on Brawl Vault that look of good quality enough to be PM official. One mod in particular that I'm looking at and wondering about is this version of Brawl FD that makes it function exactly the same as Melee FD:
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I'd be neat if the PMDT implemented ASL on selective stages giving them alternate forms, as such. Would make for a unique CP mechanic.

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

Another question, if you guys don't mind - when/where were the OoT alts for Zelda and Sheik confirmed? I'm not complaining, I love those designs, although I imagine Melee Sheik and Brawl Sheik might be hard to differentiate.

 

[Shin F.]

Another question, if you guys don't mind - when/where were the OoT alts for Zelda and Sheik confirmed? I'm not complaining, I love those designs, although I imagine Melee Sheik and Brawl Sheik might be hard to differentiate.

A stream in which Armored Ike and Dark Meta Knight were also originally seen before their official reveals.

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

A stream in which Armored Ike and Dark Meta Knight were also originally seen before their official reveals.

Are these viewable anywhere? Interested in seeing some HD Melee Zelda.

 

[Shin F.]

Are these viewable anywhere? Interested in seeing some HD Melee Zelda.

Not sure. In any case, I think only Melee Sheik was seen on it. Zelda is assumed to have a Melee alt so they'll match when transforming.

 

[arcticfox8]

When's Roy tho

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

Not sure. In any case, I think only Melee Sheik was seen on it. Zelda is assumed to have a Melee alt so they'll match when transforming.

Well, thanks anyway! Hoping this doesn't rule out a Skyward Sword Zelda or Hilda alt.

 

[EmblemCrossing]

I feel like there's been a lot of mods on Brawl Vault that look of good quality enough to be PM official. One mod in particular that I'm looking at and wondering about is this version of Brawl FD that makes it function exactly the same as Melee FD:

Would people play this version of FD over the current one? Or is it just me that would like it.. I'd play it if it was pink and purple like Melee FD.
Like this.

Is there a good Melee FD mod that retains the old background? I love the PM version, but I think I want to have the old version as an alternate.

If only I could get ASL to work properly :/

 

[MLGF]

So Armor Ike's have palettes are based on other FE characters that wore heavy armor. Kinda smart considering that the armor itself looks like a compilation as well.

Blue is Hector
Black is Black Knight
Red is Zelgius
What is Green however?

 

[EmblemCrossing]

So Armor Ike's have palettes are based on other FE characters that wore heavy armor. Kinda smart considering that the armor itself looks like a compilation as well.

Blue is Hector
Black is Black Knight
Red is Zelgius
What is Green however?

I think it's based off of Stahl, but his armor highlights are more white than yellow, and he's a very minor character to his game compared to the others. Perhaps it's just an obligatory green team recolor?

 

[MLGF]

Lol, pretty sure the only similarity they have is that they're green armored knights. Which almost every FE has.

If it's any of the Green Christmas Knights, it's likely Oscar.

I mean, the gold, shade of greens, and shoes fit.
But considering how all of the other ones are pretty significant... Oscar seems pretty random. So that's why I'm skeptical.

 

[EmblemCrossing]

Lol, pretty sure the only similarity they have is that they're green armored knights. Which almost every FE has.

If it's any of the Green Christmas Knights, it's likely Oscar.

I mean, the gold, shade of greens, and shoes fit.
But considering how all of the other ones are pretty significant... Oscar seems pretty random. So that's why I'm skeptical.

I'm just trying to offer ideas, don't laugh at me man. But the color scheme also reminds me of Gilliam, from Sacred Stones, but again, he really isn't significant. Oscar does look like a good match too, so props to you for that one. The only thing that doesn't seem to match up is the alt has white/silver hand guards, where as Oscar's are green throughout.

(Not that it means anything, it doesn't have to be consistent for an alt)

 

[MLGF]

Once again, the green on Gilliam is only on his armor and not across his entire body.
And to be fair, that part never changes between any of the alts. Black gloves with silver all 'round.
Yeah... more I see it, the more I assume it was heavily inspired by Oscar.

His eyes should be shut then

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I'm just trying to offer ideas, don't laugh at me man. But the color scheme also reminds me of Gilliam, from Sacred Stones, but again, he really isn't significant. Oscar does look like a good match too, so props to you for that one. The only thing that doesn't seem to match up is the alt has white/silver hand guards, where as Oscar's are green throughout.

(Not that it means anything, it doesn't have to be consistent for an alt)

I don't think it's referencing anything in particular. It's just there for the green team.