PM 4.0 idea, downward arrows

[AceGamer]

Hey guys I play Pit as another one of the characters I know in PM(as of 3.5) and I was playing around with arrows in the lab one day and as I was changing directions with it I suddenly wondered if it'd be cool if Pit could aim downwards from the air. So I'm asking all the Pit mains here if aiming arrows downward from the air would be a good addition to Pit in 4.0 cause I'd like to hear your opinions on it. Would it be useless, useful, broken? Lets have a discussion and find out

Me personally I think it might be a cool way to help Pit when he's coming down from the air but I'm worried that it might be an OP edge guarding tool cause you could possibly run off the edge and shoot an arrow downwards to snuff out any vertical recoveries.

 

[GabPR]

It sounds so good it might just be broken tbh.

 

[AceGamer]

lol that's what I was afraid of, do you think there might be a way to balance it though? XD

 

[Chesstiger2612]

I don't think it would be broken, aiming the arrows downward has an animation and you could fine-tune the animation length to compensate for its usefulness.

 

[AceGamer]

Oh like make it take a little longer for him to aim downwards than it would for him to aim upward or left or right?

 

[Angell]

It sounds so good it might just be broken tbh.

After all of the nerfs pit needs stuff. :/

 

[AceGamer]

Ok I'd like to point out that after thinking about it I can't imagine Pit without the ability to aim downwards now. Lol like when I'm in the air it feels natural to try to aim downwards the so I'm hoping the PMDT sees this and makes it happen in the next update X)

 

[redcometchar]

It would give pit a free time coming down. I don't know if this is good or bad. It would also make for a nasty edge-guard, following up a spike with downward arrows. Or even combos in general...
Dair(spike) -> Arrow -> Dair(spike) repeat? aerial pillars?

DO WANT

 

[AceGamer]

It would give pit a free time coming down. I don't know if this is good or bad. It would also make for a nasty edge-guard, following up a spike with downward arrows. Or even combos in general...
Dair(spike) -> Arrow -> Dair(spike) repeat? aerial pillars?

DO WANT

Lmao oh no, I'm all for Pit getting better but I DO NOT wanna create a new age Falco . If that means no downward arrows then so be it XD

 

[redcometchar]

Lmao oh no, I'm all for Pit getting better but I DO NOT wanna create a new age Falco . If that means no downward arrows then so be it XD

I think it would be pretty cool. You would only be able to do one or two because pit only has 3 midair jumps. Also the combo would carry pit in a downward angle so if preformed grounded the opponent could tech. Besides pits spike hitbox is pretty hard to hit.

 

[AceGamer]

Yeah that's true, the spike is at the end of the swing if I remember correctly and I heard it's one of the weakest spikes in the game

 

[redcometchar]

It got buffed in 3.5 but I think its still on par with the pika tail spike. Fingers crossed for downward arrows.

 

[Skelterai]

Pika's tail spike is much easier to execute than pit's spike.

I think downward arrows are a neat idea, but that is going to give hard changes to his match ups

Falcon will never make it back to stage again, Luigi and Mario will not have fun getting past them, and Ike will probably be able to hit us with the Top of his up b

 

[Life]

Downward arrow would be either horribly useless or painfully overpowered depending on the scenario, for the sole reason that arrow knockback is vertical in nature i.e. you'd be firing a projectile that would bring people towards you. Either the opponent would be able to sit under a platform and wait for you to come down then punish the arrow endlag, or they wouldn't be able to do so and would have to exist at the mercy of your ability to aim and then react to their DI with fair or bair or whatever. Besides, a huge chunk of Pit's arrow counterplay is in his blind spots, as I laid out in my arrow thread elsewhere on this board. A Pit who camps with aerial arrows gets hit as soon as someone gets under his arrow arc. Granted, a huge chunk of that blind spot still exists in that scenario, but less so as Pit gets higher in the air.

Pit has all the tools he needs to beat any opponent, but you have to play the player, not their character.

tl;dr I'm not sure you folks realize just what you're asking for.

 

[Skelterai]

Mainly I think it will give us another option for returning to the stage from above, as pit doesn't have a whole lot of options for doing so.