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Playing Release Build, what do you want me to discover?

goodspeed87

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Today & tomorrow I'll be at Anaheim's GameStop EXPO playing Smash4, I'm making a Homework List... what do you wanna know that wasn't already found out or answered from Zipzo. I'll try to learn everything I possibly can.
Idk how much "data recording" I'll be able to fulfill as I'll be physically playing & it'll be difficult to commit those %'s to memory... but I can do a lot for relaying general changes/feel/impressions/techniques.
I will do my best for a few more simple, specific cases (like Samus' KO potential compared to Brawl or Lucario's prowess at 0% comparatively).

I can do general quite easily like check for costumes or report on how Charizard feels or if he is viable, etc.

I'll do the same for timing of things like Turnip-pull.

What you guys have given me so far I will try to deliver on to the best of my ability:

Charizard - ^B >B, Impressions, & KO Power
Dedede - New FS
Kirby - Shulk Hat
Link - Impressions
Little Mac - Hoodieception?!
Marth - Grab Range
Metaknight - Nerfed(?)
Pacman - Alt. Costumes, Impressions
Peach - ^air (disjointed?), Double Jump (+cancel), Turnip Pull-Speed
Robin - Tome Respawn
Rosalina - Alt. Costumes, Buffed FS(?), & Dodge-Roll Viability
Samus - Buffed KO Power(?)
Sonic - Buffed(?)
Villager - Details, Impressions
Zelda - Aerial Sweetspots, Grab KO Power
ZSS - Buffed KO Power(?), Impressions, Nerfed(?)

Blast Zones - Impression
Counters' - Viability
Shield - AT's & Breaks
Stages - Pictochat Changes, Unova Details
Victory - Fanfare, Poses


 
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Roxas215

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1.Does kirby copy each of Shulk's modado changes? Or is it just one default power no matter which modado Shulk is using?
2.Whats the actual amount of secs it takes to pull a turnip with peach?(Reports are saying peach's turnip speed is nerfed)}
3.QAC was found with Pikachu. Could u see if Greninja has something similar?
 

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Could you see if the characters only have one victory animation and do their victory tunes sound different from Brawl (I figure they do, but i could also see them recycling it just for the 3DS)
 

MechaWave

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Do you even know if GameStop's demo will be the release version? They don't clarify it.
 
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Could you do some more tests into exactly how easily shields break? Zipzo tested with Sonic D-tilt's breaking a shield in two hits, so I'd love to see what your results are.
 

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What happens when Little Mac enters the stage wearing his hoodie? Does he rip it off to reveal another hoodie under it?

Is it bad that this is what I want to know the most?
 

Raijinken

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As stated above, finding out what happens when Kirby eats Shulk would be good. Also, try to break some of Robin's tomes through overuse and time how long they take to return. If I recall, Zipzo didn't use them frequently enough for it to matter.

Otherwise, just play a lot and tell us everything you find interesting.
 

kamus_aran

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Today & tomorrow I'll be at Anaheim's GameStop EXPO playing Smash4, I'm making a Homework List... what do you wanna know that wasn't already found out or answered from Zipzo. I'll try to learn everything I possibly can.
Thank you so much for doing this :)

If it's gonna be the newer build, please let me know if there's anything changes to Rosalina's final smash. Like if the giant star grows bigger than the e3 version or the smaller stars have longer range...Anything about her final smash!

Thanks again
 
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-Katsuta

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If you could give us really good impressions about the shield in general like how much it cancels a running/dash animation (whether it slides slightly in like Brawl or just stops them dead) or what sort of options you can do out of it ( like Up B or other things ). If you could test out different character's ( Marth, Ike, Shulk, Palutena, Little Mac, etc. ) Counter ability to see if they are competitively viable or not would be really cool too!

Thanks if you can get any of these! I think those were the only things that Zipzo didn't really pay attention to in detail.
 

SSBBDaisy

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I really would like to see videos of Peach and Rosalina and Luma.

I mainly want to see peach's uair, dair, nair, dsmash, and bair.
 

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Repeating what is said above, Kirby's Shulk Hat.

I'd also like to see what some people's victory screens are and if they only have one.

I'd also like your opinions on how powerful Little Mac will be, because it seems to be a heated topic of discussion.
 

Ashpash

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Is it difficult to short hop using the 3DS?
Are there any changes to DI, and if not, are multi-hit moves (pikachu's down smash, zelda's f-smash + up smash) still strong?

Also how does Lucina play? If she's available to play as!
TY!!
 

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Does Peach get her Melee double jump back/can she double jump cancel? If you could get a GIF of her turnip pull that would be amazing. Also if you could find out more about how her Uair works that would be great too, like if it is disjointed or not (i'm guessing not but you never know).
 

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Repeating what is said above, Kirby's Shulk Hat.

I'd also like to see what some people's victory screens are and if they only have one.

I'd also like your opinions on how powerful Little Mac will be, because it seems to be a heated topic of discussion.
I believe Kirby's Shulk hat gives him the Monado (no hair) and allows him to use Shulk's Monado arts.

EDIT: Yep.
 
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marvel b

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mine are megaman questions
how long can you use leaf shief before it disappears?
how many metal blades can be on screen at one time if you throw them on the ground?
can you combo after the slide attack?
what does the down throw look like?
 

Xuan Wu

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Two things for Ike, please:

1. How much distance does Ike cover with Aether both vertically and horizontally?

2. The speed of his tilts and smashes.

EDIT: Sorry, make that three, actually.

3. Does he retain his voice clips from SSBB?

^-^
 
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ChikoLad

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Rosalina's remaining two alternates would be cool to know (we already know her default one, red one, pink one, gold one, green one, and white one) . Also, any general info on how she plays would be great. If you find her dodge roll particularly useful, I'd like to know, as hers seems to be the best in the game (alongside Palutena who seems to have an identical roll - they both warp pretty far).

I'm also curious to know how you find the stage borders. Zipzo said they felt like they were too wide, making matches last too long, making him think that tournaments may have to go with 2-stock matches. I want to know if you have the same issue.

I'd also like to know if your opinion on Sonic ends up matching up with Zipzo. I want to see if others besides him think Sonic is as buffed as Zipzo says.

mine are megaman questions
how long can you use leaf shief before it disappears?
how many metal blades can be on screen at one time if you throw them on the ground?
can you combo after the slide attack?
what does the down throw look like?

I can actually answer these right now:

Leaf Shield is technically infinite, but individual leaves will be destroyed when hit. Also, Mega Man throws it as soon as you press A or B.

There can only be one Metal Blade on screen even if you throw it at the ground.

You can combo after the slide, it's key for getting up close when you want to.

He throws them down towards the ground, and it makes the opponent bounce off the ground.
 

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More general info on Meta Knights' changes and somewhat of a final judgment/opinion from you. I'm eager to see if this guy is still going to be broken or not.
 

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More overall info on ZSS, Samus and Charizard. Percent build-up, KO power, etc of all 3 of them. Especially KO power, since it's both Samuses weakness in Brawl. Charizard need more love.
 
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Whiteface

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If it is in fact the release build. Custom moveset variations for the characters would be nice.
 

Racquets

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This is very nice of you to do!

I haven't seen much information on it, so if possible I'd like to request info on the Unova Pokémon League stage, such as how Milotic fits in and what it does, and if N happens to appear in the background at some point (he's a human character with green hair, just in case). I don't want to ask too much because it's a lot to take in while playing, so regardless of whether you can or not, I'd like to thank you in advance for even offering!
 

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There was literally no information on Villager. I would really like to know about kill power and damage of sidesmash, treecutting, lloyd rocket and general things of him like weight, speed and all the stuff you could find out about him.
 

goodspeed87

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This' a pretty solid list, I've written it all down & will make sure to get all the info I can & hopefully sneak some videos!!!

Generally, this' what I'm looking for:


Charizard - ^B >B, Impressions, & KO Power
Dedede - New FS
Kirby - Shulk Hat
Little Mac - Hoodieception?!
Marth - Grab Range
Metaknight - Nerfed(?)
Pacman - Alt. Costumes, Impressions
Peach - ^air (disjointed?), Double Jump (+cancel), Turnip Pull-Speed
Robin - Tome Respawn
Rosalina - Alt. Costumes, Buffed FS(?), & Dodge-Roll Viability
Samus/ZSS - Buffed KO Power(?)
Sonic - Buffed(?)
Villager - Details, Impressions


Blast Zones - Impression
Counters' - Viability
Shield - AT's & Breaks
Stages - Pictochat Changes, Unova Details
Victory - Fanfare, Poses
 
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DoctorDub

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Zelda. I'd like you to see how hard it is to hit her sweetspots (fair and bair). I'd also like to know if her grabs have good KO potential this time around.
I'd also like to know how Zero Suit Samus is. I wanna know if they nerfed her or not. (Hope they didn't)
 

Raijinken

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Also, don't forget the obligatory "Every costume for every character ever and don't you dare forget my favorite" suggestion.
 

goodspeed87

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Zelda. I'd like you to see how hard it is to hit her sweetspots (fair and bair). I'd also like to know if her grabs have good KO potential this time around.
I'd also like to know how Zero Suit Samus is. I wanna know if they nerfed her or not. (Hope they didn't)
I almost never play ZSS unfortunately, but I'll try my best to relay to you how she fares in comparison to the rest of the cast... I know her feel well enough in Brawl & much of her strengths/weaknesses from matchups so I'll do my best for you!

Has the event started for today? How long is it each day?
2pm-8pm PST (in under 2 hours from now), tomorrow it's 7am-6pm PST; today is different in that it doesn't have tomorrow's usual game-floor, instead the VIP Lounge is available which may or may not have full-time access to Smash4 (it's up to the vendors, so tomorrow will have more consistent demo'ing overall)... I was 'promised' part-time access today however, so we'll see!

I'm a VIP Plus so I have line-jump privileges tomorrow & early access, so I should get tons of quality-time in with the game.
 

Lozjam

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@ goodspeed87 goodspeed87
Can you check on Link and see if he at least has the potential for Mid Tier? Thanks
-Lozjam
 
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