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Playing Release Build, what do you want me to discover?

ToothiestAura

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Hi. I've checked around to see if this has been asked, but can't find them - I apologise if they've been asked already. The questions I have pertain to Charizard:

1 - Does his Side Special (Flare Blitz) cause recoil damage if shielded?
2 - What is his Up Throw?
I've heard Charizard has Seismic Toss now, or at least a move similar to it. It has also been said that his side special does some damage to himself at the start and then more upon connecting.

Check Olimar's alt, Pikmin and Alph, what recolors are there?
Toon Link's last 2 costumes.
Does the final build have Brawl or Melee air dodge?
I need to know if Fountain of Dreams is in or not, if it isn't, it better be on wii u.
Final build has Brawl air dodge. Sakurai confirmed this was his intent in an interview a while ago. Fountain of Dreams is not in the demo, it was all stages from the leak (though not every stage from the leak was present).

Is it true that the alternate costumes are better this time around? I read somewhere you can play Link in his Fierce Deity costume for example.


This topic has a lot of info, try here. It may have the answers you are seeking.
http://smashboards.com/threads/sorr...ayed-the-release-build-of-smash-4-ama.366574/
 
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Deathcarter

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I want to know if Robin's jab changes depending on which tome he has equipped at the time.
 
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If you could give us really good impressions about the shield in general like how much it cancels a running/dash animation (whether it slides slightly in like Brawl or just stops them dead) or what sort of options you can do out of it ( like Up B or other things ). If you could test out different character's ( Marth, Ike, Shulk, Palutena, Little Mac, etc. ) Counter ability to see if they are competitively viable or not would be really cool too!

Thanks if you can get any of these! I think those were the only things that Zipzo didn't really pay attention to in detail.
I detailed some of this actually.

You can not cancel dash just run with shield. It works the same as Brawl as far as I noticed.

Marth's counter is DEFINETLY a competitively viable move.

@the OP

Good luck. I never really realized how difficult it was to aim for as much information as possible. Just bring lots of water, keep yourself relaxed and try not to pressure yourself. Answer as many questions efficiently within one playthrough that you can, and I recommend recording yourself as you play (speaking about what you're seeing) and listening later to write it down.

God speed, godspeed.
 
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Wraeith

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-Marth's side-b, as a combo tool and as a kill option
-Marth's neutral-B, in terms of damage, shield damage, and movement on the ground/in the air. I have a hunch one of the customizations will make it into a longer-ranged lunge, but if the JP demo is any indication I'm guessing you won't be able to check that out.
-Info on any changes to uair/bair/dair would be great too.
I second this, specifically dancing blade's potential usability. Also would like to your opinion on Marth's supposed range nerfs and grab range as mentioned previously.
 

DJ3DS

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I've heard Charizard has Seismic Toss now, or at least a move similar to it. It has also been said that his side special does some damage to himself at the start and then more upon connecting.
Seismic Toss is precisely what I was hoping for so that's excellent news. Flare Blitz dealing slight damage at startup isn't ideal but is better than full damage shielded I suppose. It looks decent for recovery if nothing else.

On a side note I have no idea why Samurai is not hyping up the alts more - they are looking fantastic! Shame we don't seem to have standard Shiny Charizard but GSC shiny and the other costumes all look great.
 

zero sum

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If it's not too much to ask, what is Lucario's neutral aerial like lag-wise? In Brawl, it had an enormous amount of cooldown if you didn't land soon after using it; I earnestly hope they fixed it. I'd appreciate it if you tried double-jumping off of a high platform or some other high place, used it, then tried using another aerial after the animation ends. Thanks, even if you don't get around to my request!
 

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If you do test Marth's range, maybe play some Brawl beforehand if possible - I don't recall feeling like his range got nerfed from Brawl at Smashfest. Definitely shorter than Melee's range, but I suspect Sakurai basically ported in Brawl Marth, made him a bit faster, and made a few other small tweaks.
 

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...waits patiently for the answers to all the questions...
:sadsheep:
 

Fire Tactician

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...waits patiently for the answers to all the questions...
:sadsheep:
I love this sheep so much. :happysheep: And thanks for any of the questions that you're going to answer, TC!

:yeahboi:... What is he doing here?
 
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DarkBlueSpark

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What's Kirby like in this iteration of Smash? How does he compare to Brawl Kirby?
Plus his palette swaps, and if you could get a pic of that "naked Meta Knight" costume that'd be awesome. Or at least how the shade compares to blue Kirby in Brawl.
Rosalina's palette swaps, what her attacks are like, any info like that about her.
Peach's palette swaps.
Thanks :)
 
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CaptainCrisb

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Find out if one of Palutena's taunts is the "stripper" thing
EDIT: Greninja'd
 
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TeaTwoTime

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If you do test Marth's range, maybe play some Brawl beforehand if possible - I don't recall feeling like his range got nerfed from Brawl at Smashfest. Definitely shorter than Melee's range, but I suspect Sakurai basically ported in Brawl Marth, made him a bit faster, and made a few other small tweaks.
I highly, highly doubt that the developers just "ported" Brawl Marth and changed a few numbers. :p Especially given that Sakurai has stated that they built characters from the ground up.
I'm more curious about the intricacies of Dancing Blade. Does he still retreat to a safe distance after using the down-B variant of the third, and is using only the first hit a viable poke/combo starter, or is there too much lag? :)
 
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Who's voicing Little Mac (if you can tell, at least)? And do old characters (Mario, Link, Pikachu, etc...) have new voice clips?
 
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I love this sheep so much. :happysheep: And thanks for any of the questions that you're going to answer, TC!

:yeahboi:... What is he doing here?
Sheep is life bro :cheep:
On topic, won't this information just be a day or two early anyways? Doors shall be blown open on Friday.
:joyful:
 

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Does Toon Link's Side Smash "trap" on the first hit to KO opponents like it did in Brawl?
 

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Would it be possible to check if Samus has any alt costumes whatsoever besides recolorings? I'd really appreciate it.
 

InfinityCollision

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I highly, highly doubt that the developers just "ported" Brawl Marth and changed a few numbers. :p Especially given that Sakurai has stated that they built characters from the ground up.
I'm more curious about the intricacies of Dancing Blade. Does he still retreat to a safe distance after using the down-B variant of the third, and is using only the first hit a viable poke/combo starter, or is there too much lag? :)
I meant that in a very, very loose sense. Not so much a literal port, more Sakurai using Brawl Marth as a rough template from which he began crafting the new iteration.

Third hit down does still have the retreating step iirc. Not sure about using first hit only, pretty sure I went for at least three hits the few times I used it since it actually chains properly in Sm4sh :p
 
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- Meta Knight's Final Smash (is it any different, or no?)
I believe MK's final smash was confirmed to be the same in the most recent Famitsu scans. Don't know if any properties of it changed, but it's definitely still the cloak final smash.
 

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I'd be insane to ask for the full roster so I'll settle for:

-Is Lucina a starter? Probably answered but I haven't seen it anywhere.
-(random event I don't expect answered) Do Arceus and Keldeo have voice clips?
-How long does Robin's tome need to charge before it's at full power?
 

-Katsuta

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I detailed some of this actually.

You can not cancel dash just run with shield. It works the same as Brawl as far as I noticed.

Marth's counter is DEFINETLY a competitively viable move.

@the OP

Good luck. I never really realized how difficult it was to aim for as much information as possible. Just bring lots of water, keep yourself relaxed and try not to pressure yourself. Answer as many questions efficiently within one playthrough that you can, and I recommend recording yourself as you play (speaking about what you're seeing) and listening later to write it down.

God speed, godspeed.
Thanks Zipzo for letting me know personally! You did great work with a lot of source material and I hope launch day goes well for you.
 

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Please tell me some changes to Pikachu. When I played the E3 build at Best Buy, its Thunder seemed slower (only on 3DS, though).
 

TeaTwoTime

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99% sure I remember hearing missile canceling is gone.
This. It's definitely gone, and for a reason - they don't want projectiles to be overbearing (this is observable across the board). There'd be no reason for this to change in the final build because I don't see them changing their design philosophies mid-way through development. :p
 

Greda

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WFT alternate costumes, and the strength of Deep Breathing + Sun Sayonara Salutation?
 

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This. It's definitely gone, and for a reason - they don't want projectiles to be overbearing (this is observable across the board). There'd be no reason for this to change in the final build because I don't see them changing their design philosophies mid-way through development. :p
Yeah, and I really do like the more aggressive nature of this game.

Though to be fair it wasint in the brawl demo. :)
 

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All I honestly want to know about this game right now is the alternate colors/costumes. It's stupid, but everything else is something that will only make sense when I experience it myself.

I also want to know more about the PictoChat level, since it looks different.

So:
- All costumes for newcomers (Rosalina, Greninja, Palutena, Little Mac & Wireframes, Wii Fit Trainers, Shulk, Mega Man and Pac-Man).
- Any costumes for veterans that were -not- in Brawl. Things like Orange Marth or Gold C.Falcon.
- Pictochat

For a list of costumes you do NOT need to remember: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Palette_swap_(SSB4)

Appreciated, but I understand if you don't come back with tons of costumes. If anything, just look for ones that Zipzo didn't confirm.
 
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