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Pk thunder kinda sux

Davy Jones

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I mean, If you use it against a wall, you will bounce back to the beginning. This is very annoying, especially if you're close to the edge of near a wall (especially beneath the edge). Without the midair grab Lucas whould suck. Is there any way to avoid bouncing of a wall while close to the edge? Another recovery move?
 

MasterToshima

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You know Lucas has a tether, and maybe it's not much but hey, it's a tetherm, so don't forget to use it if u r too close to wall for PK thunder.

Also, most of Lucas recover beneath the edge of stage, it's very effectful, while u can hit ur opponet too to punish them if they r off guar on the edge of the stage.

Hey, I know that'z an a++ of advice but im rly tired so sorry...
 

Tyr_03

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PK Thunder is kind of amazing. You just suck with it apparantly.
 

lil cj

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Lucas has plenty of recovery options
tether, zap jump, and magnet pull
U can even do both zap jump(for verticle) and magnet pull(for horizontal) together
Try to mix it up to aviod being too predictable
 

Davy Jones

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It's hard to aim. PK thunder is fun to use (50 damage and juggles enemies, plus penetrates if a group). How's the zap jump and magnet pull?
 

x9whitey9x

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First of all, it's easy to aim after about 5 minutes of practice.
To zap jump, do your first jump, then PK Fire and jump again at about the same time. To magnet pull, Wavebounce a pk fire then switch to PSI Magnet.
 

Jasper

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I use pika fire alot and find it very usefull. I don't really think that it sucks at all...
 

Nohbody

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the grammar here is killing me inside

try to practice with it, and do realize that ness's pkt is way faster than lucas's
 

Davy Jones

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I agree. Lucas is WAY better than Ness. I mean, Ness' thunder can be canceled just by making it hit you. Plus his Ps Magnet is not good for recovery/attack.
 

Neon Ness

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I agree. Lucas is WAY better than Ness.
I am so sick of people saying this...

And Looocas, Ness' PKT2 is a slow rocket, but it's way stronger than Lucas'.... It kills medium-light weight characters at about 60%... at point blank, of course.
 

Tyr_03

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Lucas's PKT2 is better for recovery. Ness's PKT2 is better as an attack.

Lucas has a better ground game. Ness has a better aerial game.

Lucas has a better edgeguard game. Ness has a better on stage game.

I put them about even. Unless your fighting Marth in which case you have a much better shot with Lucas. Also this is a really stupid thread.
 

Royale

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this thread reminds me of a mario i met that taunted me when i went towards and under FD, second jumped and PK thundered back to the ledge safetly. I climbed back up saying, "Hi im back"
 

Davy Jones

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Lucas's PT is better at damaging. As projectile it can deal a averange of 20%, As a jump 50%. WHat I don't like is that it bounces if against a wall...
 

Royale

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Since you have a pair of eyes and can read, you should look up How Lucas' PKT2 works. I've been able to wallhugging the sides of FD and sweet spot the edge. But seeing how you never even bothered to look it up in the first place. I'd suggest you stop making yourself look like an idiot here and stop posting in this thread.
 

Neon Ness

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Lucas's PKT2 is better for recovery. Ness's PKT2 is better as an attack.

Lucas has a better ground game. Ness has a better aerial game.

Lucas has a better edgeguard game. Ness has a better on stage game.

I put them about even. Unless your fighting Marth in which case you have a much better shot with Lucas. Also this is a really stupid thread.
Finally, a post that makes sense. They are even. Too many beginner Lucases fail to understand this, though, because they don't make an effort to seek out Ness' advantages...
 
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PKT and PKT2 are friggin' awesome. Lucas has one of the best recovery and projectile games out of the roster.
 

soccerdude7200

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You just gotta practice sweet spotting the edge
that way you won't bounce off...
Or if your up against a wall just hit your self straight up.
 

ToxiCrow

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PKT is one of Lucas' best movess. if u practice with PKT2, u wont hit walls anymore. And if u hit someone with the ball at the begining of PKT, it'll knock them back. Turn and try hit them with the ball again to gimp their recovery.
It seems weak at 1st, but once u master it you'll see how amazing it really is
 

ChaosTheoryX

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lucas' pk thunder is beast. Ive been working on different ways of using it to mess with the opponent. full hop and make the pk thunder go all the way around lucas then hitting yourself towards the opponent as a mind game and even.........up b-out of shield...yes i said it lucas can up-b out of shield, and if it is used correctly it can set you up for many attacks. stil working out the kinks right now but ive been using it in my gameplay for about a week now and it works crazy good.
 

ToxiCrow

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lucas' pk thunder is beast. Ive been working on different ways of using it to mess with the opponent. full hop and make the pk thunder go all the way around lucas then hitting yourself towards the opponent as a mind game and even.........up b-out of shield...yes i said it lucas can up-b out of shield, and if it is used correctly it can set you up for many attacks. stil working out the kinks right now but ive been using it in my gameplay for about a week now and it works crazy good.
u want a good pkt combo? try this out: short hop nair, uptilt x2, pkt2
 
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