Pivotgrab moar!one!eleven

[DanGR]

Seriously. No-one on this board pivotgrabs enough. I don't either. When your opponent approaches you,
-Don't shield his fair or dash attack,
-Don't spotdodge his grab,
-And Don't spam fsmash or standing grabs.

Pivotgrab!!! It's COMPLETELY safe. It has lucario's fsmash in distance. No other attack outranges that! Just throw pikmin, and pivotgrab your opponent's approaches. easy.

I recommend playing about 10 matches without the shield button assigned to anything. Hopefully that will prove my point.

Discuss.

 

[Olimarman]

I agree its broken, and somewhat underused. Its soooooo good.

 

[Puddin]

You can't make me. I try, but I always begin my dash to early or some other stupid mistake that puts me out of range.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

Honest... I only thought you can do this with the shield and Cstick?
I press cstick backwards and L.

 

[Puddin]

Isn't that the boosted Pivot Grab?

 

[Cook]

Pivot grab is the thing I've really been trying to incorporate more. Well, that and using ^B offensively (and defensively). I spend so much of my matches running away now.
1. Run away.
2. Jump and throw Pikmin until they approach.
3. Run away and pivot grab.
4. Follow grab with combo.
5. ???
6. Profit!

 

[Awex]

DangR, you should play me on wifi, lol.

 

[Jadedlink]

I thought everyone was pivot grabbing. Guess I was wrong.

 

[RichBrown]

wtf, i've been using this for months. it isn't apparent in the 2 videos i have posted of myself, but my playing has evolved big time since those vids anyways. Yeah, I love grab releasing an opponent, and then running to the other side of them and pivot grabbing them.

seriously, i use this alllll the time, it is so valuable, as usual dan is right.

 

[whodat]

I really thought that this was common knowledge.

 

[Awex]

It is. All the Olimars I've played in socal are thoroughly versed in spamming pivot grabs.

Well, 2 of them didn't until I showed em. ;D

 

[DanGR]

I don't care if it's common knowledge. I just wanted to stress it again. lol

 

[Fino]

I pivot grab some, but it's somewhat easier to punish than a shield grab, or even a dashing shield grab.
I try to use it for mind games, but that's about it.
I'll try incorporating it more, see how it works.


~Fino

 

[Snail]

I do it all the time. You guys should practice reverse boost grabs, their range is pure win <3

 

[Zori]

wow have you guys seen weruop?

 

[RichBrown]

I played him a few times a couple nights ago, id imagine he is a beast, although I was really more concerned with getting used to wifi lag because it was only my second time ever playing wifi ^_^

the reason I say id imagine he is a beast is because I never judge anybody's skill based on watching them play wifi, but he was executing a lot of the standard "advanced" olimar techniques, I got pivot grabbed more than once.

i hear about reverse boost grab or whatever, how is this different from a pivot grab and how do you execute it? is it better than a pivot grab in terms of range and sliding distance?

 

[DanGR]

I know to do it^, bit I don't bother using it. You dash attack using down on the c-stick and then cancel it with pivotgrab. It's pretty easy to do. I'm not sure how much more effective it is though.

 

[Snail]

It extends your pivot grab range with about 20%, I think. The slide distance is slightly bigger as well. Only downside is that it takes a long time for the pikmin to walk back so your opponent breaks out easily at low percentages :/

 

[Cook]

My only problem with pivot grabbing is that I have trouble using it effectively against characters that like to pressure you with multi-hit d-airs, like Wario and Fox, because when I run away and pivot-grab they're usually still in the air. Actually, this applies to most characters that stay mostly in the air. It seems like shield grab works better on them. I could be doing something wrong, though.

 

[asob4]

i pivot grab a lot lol

but my oli is rusty right now :/ hopefully i'll be in tip top shape on saturday

 

[Olimarman]

wow have you guys seen weruop?

He hurts.

10weroupsisanamazingolimar

 

[mr_kennedy44]

wow have you guys seen weruop?

I've heard of him. He does have a great Olimar.

BTW Zori I like your sig.

 

[asob4]

weroup is good haha

did you guys know zori is black :o hahahah

 

[DanGR]

Oh great. This is slowly becoming another spam thread. Think dan. think productive...or on topic. think. think. think!

*lightbulb*

Anyone use RARed spikes? Yah know, you ever use dair on an offstage opponent and it just hits them out instead of down? RARed dair= stage spike if that ever happens maybe? eh, eh?

 

[A2ZOMG]

I haven't played a single Olimar who pivot grabs.

I want to see how broken it really is. Until then I will have my doubts.

 

[asob4]

that'd be cool, i'm gonna try that haha

don't all oli threads turn to spam unless they're really important?

-is#1spammeronoliboards-

weroup wants to be, the very best
like no one ever was
to pluck them is his real test
to throw them is his cause
PIKMIN!

:D
/fail

 

[DanGR]

sigged^

10laughs

 

[asob4]

you added to the spam! you hypocrite <3

ok on the real though, people need to start pivot grabbing more as it is teh sexxx and is amazing

 

[Cook]

Oh great. This is slowly becoming another spam thread. Think dan. think productive...or on topic. think. think. think!

*lightbulb*

Anyone use RARed spikes? Yah know, you ever use dair on an offstage opponent and it just hits them out instead of down? RARed dair= stage spike if that ever happens maybe? eh, eh?

It seems like that always knocks them up a little, too, so I'm not sure you could get them to hit the stage. You're probably joking anyway...

 

[asob4]

i've staged spiked with dair instead of actually spiking
it's very possible and probable

 

[OlimarFan]

that'd be cool, i'm gonna try that haha

don't all oli threads turn to spam unless they're really important?

-is#1spammeronoliboards-

weroup wants to be, the very best
like no one ever was
to pluck them is his real test
to throw them is his cause
PIKMIN!

:D
/fail

LOLOLOL!!!!
Epic to the Max.

 

[Dabuz]

ive played weroup, hes really good but ive managed to beat him a few times in our olimar mirrors

 

[Pyronic_Star]

i pivot grab, and i know black waltz does, and i think starz on edge does also lol i mainly do it to people that do a dash atk or some kinda of move that forces them to a certain spot....... and it works wonders against a chasing metagay who is in a tornadeo or gliding

weroup is good haha

did you guys know zori is black :o hahahah[/QUOTE
omg, wtf.... black people can't play olimar >.< i'm also black

 

[Cook]

ive played weroup, hes really good but ive managed to beat him a few times in our olimar mirrors

I hate Olimar dittos so much...

 

[asob4]

olimar dittos can be fun when it's 2 experienced oli players
otherwise that ****'s annoying lol

:o gasp!
black olimar players!!! who don't use negrolimar???? what has this world come to

<3 no racism i swearsies

 

[Fino]

if I ever play olimar dittos, I always switch to negrolimar... it's too confusing otherwise.
I HATE oli dittos, that's why my other characters are oli counters


~Fino

 

[TheWii]

I always lose Oli dittos even if im better than my opponent, I lose all dittos I play with other charachters also!

 

[Cook]

I almost always use Negromar (I think Negromar rolls off the tongue better than Negrolimar) regardless of my opponent's character. He's just more of a badass.

 

[Cook]

I always lose Oli dittos even if im better than my opponent, I lose all dittos I play with other charachters also!

I tend to lose a lot of dittos as well, even if I'm better with that character than the person I'm playing. I think it's because I don't have as much experience playing against the character.

 

[Dabuz]

olimar dittos can be fun when it's 2 experienced oli players
otherwise that ****'s annoying lol

yeah, well me and him are both very experienced, we are probably at the same skill as each other though so we have very fun and interesting matches when im not being pivot grabbed constantly, i swear those things are ridiculous when he uses them alot though