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Pikachu Tournament Results (UPDATED!: 4/24/11)

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I heard Z did well at TP5.
I also heard he used Fox for a good chunk of the tournament. Idk if that's true or not.
 
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40. A little better, I don't know where I got 33...
That's almost the halfway point. I know I'm better than that.
Top 10 at HOBO 25.

Believe it!
 
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Ugh, PA rankings are ending with Players Bowl this weekend, and my season was horrible.

I'm putting this out there that I will make rankings next season. I know I'm capable, I just need to practice more and start trying harder. ><
 
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You got this Mamachu!
*Looks around.*
I haven't gone to any tournaments in a while so I got nothing right now.
 
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I better report it...

Leaf: 2nd of 16 at Ana-Con 2010.

Stupid diddy. In all honesty I was expecting more. Not as many people came.
But my objectives were made:
1) Defeat the guy I beat in the finals last year
2) Place high in a tournament using only pika.
 
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Uhhhh.... didn't enter singles today, lol. Too expensive.

I won a mm, but it was with Zelda. The new season officially begins tomorrow, though, so I'mma start actually trying. ;;

Kenny figured out how to beat Zelda with Pika. :mad: He better not tell the secret!
 
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its not that hard x.x lol acting like its some secret bad matchup for pikachu, when it really........isnt. im starting to DI out of her usmash more consistently now ;x updating, nice job leaf

could i get a date leaf?
 
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It's not bad for Pika at all..... it's actually in his favor imo. ~60:40.

But you'd be surprised how most Pikas don't figure it out.
 
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yeah thats the problem :/ mlg is by far the best chance for me, and when you quit at the end of the summer it wont matter anymore :(
and no you wont be me, i will wreck you :)

kk leaf ill update
 
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Ha, I remember saying dair camping is dumb hard to get around, and someone told me it's "not that bad". Forget who it was. -____-

Good job anyways ESAM.
 
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Lol dair camping is ridiculous. Pikachu has no options if they have a platform to retreat to...
 
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Supposedly we can time uair/bair (bair is more reliable/requires less careful spacing) to beat it, but the timing's somewhat strict. Me, Anther, and Gallax -- and maybe Tag? -- talked about it at some point in the Q&A thread. Too lazy to search for it.

EDIT: Maybe it's not in the Q&A thread..... >< Argh, where was it?!

.......I've never seriously tried it, tbh. Too scared, lol.

<333 @Kenny, & good **** Prime and PP!
 
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No...you can't bair it. If the MK has any good reaction time he will be high enough above you to not get hit by FH uair, so you will have to DJ, and then the MK can just jump again and dair. It might be trade, but its like 11% given to us and 6% given to MK (assuming strongest part and fresh for our uair). Bair just doesn't work...
 
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Well, like I said, I've never tried it, so I can't argue with ya, lol. I'll try to find the convo at some point...... maybe there's some secret there that we're not realizing. =P
 
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The convo was hiding in the old critique thread, not the Q&A thread, my bad:

gallax said:
kk. thanks dude. but i also want to talk a little more about this dair camping. i noticed that if you space yourself properly you can sometimes get in a bair on the mk.

the end of mk's dair swing reaches further along his side than the beginning of the dair. so if you can space it properly by waiting for the start of the dair you can successfully get a bair in from the shorter part of the dair swing. people should watch out for this and i think is very important in the MK matchup. this is another option to the uair of course which is also very important in dair spacing.
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Forgot to hit the multiquote button for this post, but I said I'd prefer uair over bair.

gallax said:
yeah but u see bair has knockback which is very useful. i wouldn't dair a dair camping mk. lol. thats way too difficult and almost impossible at times. nair yes though. for me though, nair is great for a follow up if you get an uair in. a quick uair>nair is possible when the mk is at mid>higher percentages.

i do want to say a few things about uair though. uair has very little knockback and very easy to punish. the only way the MK will not not be able to land a dair against you is if you space ur uair almost perfectly and FF it immediately after landing a hit. if you dont so both of these the MK will be able to get a free dair off.

bair also gets u more damage and will knock the MK away at lower percentages, which is great since he cant follow up with an attack and allows for the match to get back to nuetral.

and i rarely attack when the MK is landing from dair camping. you want to get right below him on the ground. dsmash works if the mk doesnt dair and tries to nado or airdodge but shielding is your best option because more than likely the MK is going to tornado which goes though your uair and every other aerial. but getting hits on a MK when they are landing is terribly difficult, especially when playing a MK who is experienced and a good player overall.

conclusion summarized form what everyone has said so far:

it is very difficult to space a diar camper. but if thats how the MK decides to play then you need to learn the dair openings and timing. if you think u can follow up an uair then go for it. if you do not plan on following it up then just space the tip of your uair as to not get hit. if you see the opening for a bair take it. keep the MK close and pressure his from underneath.
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Anther said:
In soviet mk, you don't pressure MK, MK pressures you ;0!

When MK's in the air and you're on the ground technically he's at a disadvantage because there is an impending moment where he has to land and have 3 whole frames of vulnerability after an airdodge or 7 frames from using dair. So if you knock him away.. you get the advantage even more because he has less jumps to work with, and pika just excels at chasing people while they're in the air.
Bair's good because it's one of those psychological moves that hurts peoples feelings and makes them play worse when they're hit by it... all moves that last too long do that. You sit there and think about what could've went wrong.. and cry ;;.

Just hit him with whatever is most likely to work. Sometimes uair gives you that vertical or horizontal reach you need to get in there, other times bair seems like the best move, just get your hits in and eventually you will have broken his dair pressure game. ... and stuff...
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KayLo! said:
Seems like it also depends on how much damage MK has. At low percentages, I feel like bair wouldn't have the hitstun/knockback to work out well (to balance out its cooldown), but at higher percentages, I can see it being more of a viable option.
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So, meh, take what you will from this. The convo happened a long time ago, tho.
 
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Prime was too nice to post my result for the tourney, lol.

25th out of 32 @Nikefest2, 5/15/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=274926

Texas way too good.

Also, Im pretty sure theres a set of anther vs m2k where m2k tries to dair camp on the first game and eventually stops because he gets hit with too many bairs. iirc it seemed like bairs did work best at low percents, but I cant search youtube right now because Im on a bad laptop.
 
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it is highly doubtful, it largely depends on money and timing of finals for summer semester. trust me i am going to move heaven and earth (and work my *** off at work) so i can go :) if i can reach my goal of 600 a week it shouldnt be a problem
 
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