Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[#HBC | J]

I don't think bombs explode when being NK'd nor do I think my BP had anything to do with it.

 

[BarDulL]

J was the one to kill Overswarm, and I purposefully avoided giving any information on it. Since he's BP he didn't get killed.

^There are the bombs that explode on lynch, and the ones that explode when NK'd.

 

[#HBC | J]

Actually I agree with a lot of what Bardull said and I felt that it was mainly more of a strong town and everyone played their part well in terms of beating me in the end.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Eh, idk how I feel about MvP but it wouldn't be bad if Seph did get MvP. Then again he never really convinced anyone of his reads besides Adumb dying due to him having a gun. Kind of regret shooting him over Pierce. What do?

MvP Seph or No MvP is good IMO.

How do you want to convince the dense mass that is Marshy of your scumminess when he had a boner for you?

He had a case typed up for last day, when he did have a chance.

As for Adumb, he saw the right stuff and was in a position to lynch Adumb going into D2.

Keep it in context :v

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I felt that Seph kinda mindlessly tunneled my slot on D1/J's slot D2 moreso out of paranoia (or maybe for the sake of pushing slots that people weren't really pushing) than him having an actual scum read. Seph never substantiated his reads so I could never really ascertain whether or not he actually knew what he was pushing. Or maybe he really isn't that good at explaining himself regarding his reads, but that they're legit? IDK. Like, IDK how anyone could think J was scum immediately after J's D1 performance. Seemed like paranoid conjecture.

They are legit, I can vouch for it as the person who followed his notes.

Tunneling your slot was entirely legit when you never gave anything to make Seph think you're town.

 

[#HBC | J]

Eh, most of it is, "well he could have gotten!" because while it may be true, none of it really happened. He had a case on me, but died a day too short. He could have gotten Adumb's lynch which I don't really think so in context of things. Also Seph was the only one to see my "scumminess" and vocalize it until I got caught purely due to NAs.

;P I guess it's different from the mafia PoV where it wasn't one person who figured it out, but town working together. Then again, it's totally up to Inferno and how he felt.

 

[BarDulL]

They are legit, I can vouch for it as the person who followed his notes.

Tunneling your slot was entirely legit when you never gave anything to make Seph think you're town.

If he has notes, I'd love to see them.

And what the shiz? I gave a lot of stuff, you need to reread mang.

 

[BarDulL]

He basically said "BarDulL is being fake, lynch him" but...I wasn't actually being fake. HRMM. Then he had the nerve to not explain himself while hard tunneling my slot.

 

[Pierce7d]

Tunneling Bardull slot was Day1, and considering he shot scum night one, I wouldn't take out Seph MVP because of that, considering he in the end he did switch to Ronike (I seriously think scum was silly to let that happen).

Also, I want to point out that Seph was the one who planted the seed of doubt in J into my mind. I would've tracked a town slot regardless, but Seph pushed me to J.

 

[Inferno3044]

I was impressed by Seph's performance and he was very key in town's win. Him killing Adumb early was so helpful. Think about it like this. Scum's plan was to make J look as towny as possible. But by D2 they were all gone. This was done by Seph. On top of that he started the J suspicion. Combine Pierce support track you have a dead J.

@Bardull - the bomb would've been detonated by either lynch or NK. The bulletproof was in to stop both the vig and the bomb.

@Pierce - I noticed that after N1 as a balance mistake. Should've kept the shot with Mario. Probably would've called it shooting star. Also hmu about comodding my next game. I thought of a really great/funny idea for it.

Guys feel free to give opinions on the set up. I personally thought it was a bit in towns favor. Also stay tuned for my next game (when I figure out the setup). I am confirming the flavor as The Boondocks.

 

[#HBC | J]

I freaking loved this game.

D3 during the claim debacle:

D4 when everyone cleared everyone:

This is the second time in a mafia game where I have been tracked/watched to the dead body and I wasn't lynched on the spot due to a fake-claim of mine. I am probably gonna remember this game as the Bardull vs. Kary game and the Fortune Teller fake-claim. I loved that fake-claim haha, it was so cool and I actually wish I had gotten that role. I love creating roles though so that's probably why I have a lot of fun fake-claiming.

 

[Inferno3044]

I would've hammered Bardull/Kary if I was scum. Try and have a change of opinion. Scum should've stopped it before it came to that.

Pierce I still don't get why you tracked J. I understood OS since you explained it and that was smart. But why J? You had no suspicion on him from what I saw.

 

[#HBC | J]

He didn't track me because I was suspicious iirc. He tracked me because I was a town-read that he wanted to have as 100% clear.

 

[BarDulL]

Hey man, if you think Seph deserves MVP, it's your call. Seph's actions helped Town, I just don't agree with his rationale for said actions. Like, yes, on the surface, he let the Ronike lynch go through (but that's because he could not get my lynch), and yes he shot Adumb (but he never explained why he thought Adumb was scum, Adumb was more of a null to me on D1. Granted, that's a good vig shot choice anyway considering Adumb was null), I just don't consider it a strong MVP performance and more of a luckish performance.

 

[BarDulL]

I would have shot John a thousand times over before Adumb, haha.

 

[#HBC | J]

Inferno, I have to say, this was probably my favorite set-up I have played in a while. I loved the roles and how balanced it was but had unique roles that you don't normally get to see that much or shine which would was so cool. I mean you were able to give mafia really good PRs but still let it be balanced in the town's aspect. (Bomb being able to get the ninja, gave town a one-shot Vig but gave mafia a BP, gave town a JoAT/Tracker but still had a RB.)

The only thing I would have probably said is the Jailer role. Yes, it fit perfectly flavour wise but having a chance of something like this happening:

Town JoAT, RB'd by Jailer
Town One-Shot Vig, RB'd by Scum

That would have gotten a bit hectic if you didn't plan on giving them their PRs again if they used them once already and they failed due to RB. (which is what I assumed what would have happened because they did choose to use them but they failed due to RB.) I think a Doctor would have been good enough, but Jailer was fine. I really loved this set-up and consider me on the list for the next game you host if it will be anything like this game.

Plus the flavour was amazing and the roles were just so great in my opinion. There was little to not like about this game.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I liked the set up, and personally didn't think it was imbalanced, I just think that if the Roleblocker didn't die night one, then this game would have been played out awhile longer. I mean, this game was the perfect example of everything going right for town on day and night choices, and not so much the scum night choices. I also liked how I got the Master, since he was basically the most bad *** character in the game.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If he has notes, I'd love to see them.

And what the shiz? I gave a lot of stuff, you need to reread mang.

Not enough to make you look town, and I agree with him on that. Maybe I'm just dense.

He didn't track me because I was suspicious iirc. He tracked me because I was a town-read that he wanted to have as 100% clear.

He just posted that he tracked you BECAUSE OF SEPH.

I just don't consider it a strong MVP performance and more of a luckish performance.

2 good reads isn't luck


ps bardull part of the reason why he tunneled you d1 a bardull lynch is always a good lynch and it's fun to just lynch someone on gusto :D


Inferno: put a hold to this discussion and decide for yourself. SERIOUSLY

 

[BarDulL]

Like I said dude, I want to see those notes and actually make sense of those reads. If he actually has a legit thought process and not some paranoid bullshiz going for him then yeah I'd give consent.

BarDulL lynch is always anti-town, YA'LL BETTA RECOGNIZE. D:

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Also no notes Bardull, I don't like to use them. I do everything mentally and it never really has been a problem.

But if you want to dismiss my actions as paranoia be my guest, I honestly don't care.

 

[BarDulL]

We're talking about giving out MVP here Seph, I'm not trying to blatantly degrade you or your play, I have nothing against you personally. If you think you deserve MVP, say something.

 

[BarDulL]

They are legit, I can vouch for it as the person who followed his notes.

Xonar confirmed for scumbag.

 

[BarDulL]

Like, if possible, explain your scum read on J on Day 2. If you give me something tangible and completely legitimate that everyone else seemed to have missed, I'll bite.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Xonar confirmed for scumbag.

He was talking to me about his thought process. That count as notes?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well I did give Xonar my reads and thoughts as I played, but I meant like in a general organized note pattern then no I don't have one of those.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Going to do shout outs.

J: You did well for yourself It's always hard to lynch you, looking forward to hydraing with you in OS All Stars ^_^

SangfroidWarrior: I think J was right about how you weren't much into this game, I really like you as a player and should play more often.

Rajam:

John2k4: I had no idea what your deal was this game, you seemed very different from your normal play and you also didn't do very much. I don't know if this was you trying to mix something up or trying something new, but I wouldn't recommend doing it again.

Pierce7d: Loved you bro, even out of rust you performed greatly. I loved your notes from Day 1 and how they incorporated into Day 2. Top notch player, would play with again.

Ronike: Sorry bro you had to be scum in your come back game, hope to play with you again in a future game.

adumbrodeus: I shot you.

Kary: I think what OS said about your slot was pretty accurate, and should take that to heart. I also loved it when you town slipped, do that more, but not on purpose.

Overswarm: Always fun to play with you OS, I like how you set things up, and play.
so play more games. Too bad you died N1, would have loved to see what you'd do later in the game.

Marshy: MARSHY YOU ARE SEXY AND I WOULD DO YOU IF I WERE ROCKIN! I loved playing with you, and you can always make me laugh my *** off. You just need to find those J scum tells bro.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Seph: what OS said when? Also I didn't consider that a town slip

P.S. J was hella scummy
Bardull your 'scumhunting' is laaame
Think town had one PR too many

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Kary. Any power player can mold him whatever we want. Mafia or not, Kary isn't a threat and isn't someone we have to worry about "putting together a lynch".

He might have been a little mean, but you should definitely work on this.

 

[BarDulL]

@Seph: what OS said when? Also I didn't consider that a town slip

P.S. J was hella scummy
Bardull your 'scumhunting' is laaame
Think town had one PR too many

All of my reads were on point except for D1 J, which is when I correctly switched on D3.

Also, what OS said is so true, no offense LOL. Quit trying to appeal so damn much to others.

 

[BarDulL]

Like you were easily the most self preservative slot all game and you tried to have Sang lynched so you yourself could avoid dying. That was the grimiest **** I've EVER read and I wanted to lynch you so bad for it, you're so lucky that your claim saved you.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Meh.
I was Jailer, I needed to keep myself alive/not lynched. If that meant doing what people said, so be it.

To say that I was lucky is to completely misunderstand what I was doing.

 

[#HBC | J]

Kary, we need to hydra again where I actually play with you instead of just giving you my reads haha.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Well up for it, J. Although your reads were amazing :D
That's half the reason I knew you were scum this game

 

[Rajam]

After much criminalizing evidence, the town had turned towards J.

"I saw you go to a dead body chap" one member said. (guess who?) "I have scavenged the Deep ruins of Dry Dry Ruins and found the ancient treasure within the Volcano of Lavalava Island. Finding you was as easy as finding a bonus level in Donkey Kong Country 3."
"But I am not a killer," J replied. "I am Merlon and I predicted his death. Don't lynch me!" "Nice try." Another member of town said. "We know you're scum and we're gonna lynch you BWAHAHA!!!"

J against his will was brought up to the gallows. It was almost as if he had no chance of avoiding this situation. However he had one last trick up his sleeve. "You fools! I am Merlon, and I had predicted my own death today! Now my power is at full completion! Feel my wrath!"

J had unleashed an amazing power beyond anyone had ever seen! After his last minute effort:

John2k4, Chuck Quizmo, Vanilla Townie has been endgamed!

Pierce7d, Kolorado, Town Tracker has been endgamed!

Chibosempai, Mario, Town Item User has been endgamed!

BarDulL, Moustafa, Vanilla Townie has been endgamed!

Kary, Bow, Town Jailer has been endgamed!

Frozenmarsh751, Mayor Penguin, Vanilla Townie has been endgamed!

J, Merlon, Independent Warlock has won!

Spoiler

The real thing that happened was:

J, Bowser, Bulletproof Mafia has been lynched!

Town wins!!!

LMAO Best ending ever

 

[John2k4]

Yeah that's my thoughts too Seph. I already gave my case, and don't hope to play in that manner again.

 

[Rajam]

MVP: marshy and Seph

 

[BarDulL]

Shoutouts:

@Chibo - I loved you this game.
@Pierce - I also loved you this game. The Kolorado claim was like "wtf," but I realized it made sense in correlation with Tracker, which is what Inferno was trying to do; make role claims fit their character claims.
@Ronike - Hey man, sorry for getting dirty and being an *** on D1. I was pretty sure you were scum, so I went with it. Keep playing in Dgames dude.
@J - Oh my goodness, your D1 scum play was godlike.
@Seph - I'm still kinda iffy on you dude, wish you'd give us some kind of material to work with when you push for a slot. Not trying to act like I know EVERYTHING, but a skeptic like me isn't going to buy into your reads if you don't substantiate them. No hard feelings though please.
@John - Play different next time >:O.
@Kary - Lol I already said my piece about you. And dude, appeasement to stay alive? Gross. It's just scummy and nasty looking and no one likes it. You gotta work on your PR play for sure.
@OS - Loludead.
@Marshy - Goodshiz.
@Sang - I really liked you this game, IDK why people were hating on you so much honestly. There was some AtE here and there and you were kinda passive but I had a good feeling you were Town regardless.
@Adumb - Calling me dumb town, . But my reads were pretty good though.
@Rajam - I had a feeling you were also Town, but your catch up game was like...-___________-. Quit playing catch-up D:<.

 

[BarDulL]

Oh yeah, and thank you Inferno for hosting this, this game was fun. Vote counts and prods were a little slow on D3, but you were at camp or something so I can't say I blame ya, I know that feel bro. Would join another one of your games again for sure. In regards to MVP it's up to you, Seph definitely helped out a lot but I'm skeptical about whether or not it's really an MVP performance know what I mean? Either way if you think Seph is legit then I'm not stopping ya. Definitely still think all of Town had strong team work and mostly everyone did their part.

Also I'm ****ing replaying PM64 now because of this, haha. That game is way too good.

 

[#HBC | J]

My brother just got Paper Mario N64 for an early birthday present. I am so gonna be stealing it from him when he isn't playing it.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I brother.