OS All-Stars: Game over! TOWN WINS!

[frozenmarsh751]

vote el zv

-2

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Chibo still disgustingly worried about himself and nothing else.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Chibo, talk to me about me, Sho, Bardull, and Ruy.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Ryker, Washed is 502'd, but he'd love a word with you. Stick around for that.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Completely depends on work. I'm almost doe with a job I can use my iPod on. I will get to him though.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

MIR vs Sho looks TvT

ZV getting worse by the post

 

[Meadowsizzle]

MIR vs Sho looks TvT

ZV getting worse by the post

Ewww, so easy.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

But it's true

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Don't let me forget to go and see what else DH has posted before now.

 

[Make it Rain!]

**** 502s. Had a long reply ready for Drew and then it got ate.

 

[Sho-Minamimoto]

DH, there really isn't even a debate between us two yet. just WL making wrong assumptions and us having them as null.

What makes you of it being TvT?

 

[Meadowsizzle]

If it's long, I'll get to t with a computer.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Because it reads of Rusty Guillotine? MP2 J agreed with Marshy, for one.

Yes, he'd go straight to LyLo. It would e 3 man. I would lynch right.

The route he took in flipping around those votes follows the same route I did.

Bardull into Chibo and not liking either. Remember Skies? Town J literally just followed the pressure half the time. I see no problem with where he stands now and I'll tell you if that problem arises.

In my perfect world, yes, he could get a free pass to LyLo for listening to me. That won't realistically happen because there's little chance of us both making it that far and there's very little chance of them following my vote that far.

Here's the thing: you're talking far too much about him following you and not nearly enough on what he's even saying in the first place. I quoted three of his earlier posts and in two of them he showed a lot of indecision, a lot of wishy-washy stances, and a lot of null behavior. He did exactly that in the early game of MP2. I did not read Rusty Guillotine but you said in that game you and J were on together. You both have already agreed to disagree with each other on a pretty ****ing key thing.

And no, in Skies, Town J followed half the pressure closer to endgame. In the early game, he was out, trying to make **** happen all the ****ing time. He posted content, had solid, decisive reads, and was directly pushing them. Here, he's hoping bandwagons for the sake of hoping bandwagons and not really strongly pushing in any direction.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

DH, there really isn't even a debate between us two yet. just WL making wrong assumptions and us having them as null.

What makes you of it being TvT?

Well, for one, I like MIR's post here:

So you have wishy-washy stances too, or are you just blatantly ignoring J's half-***** ****?

I mean, look at this:

How does this not smell of wishy-washy, sit the fences, MP2 J you and I both caught? Because he agrees with you? Would you seriously take someone like this to LyLo because they support your vote and ignore the fact that they look exactly like a game they were scum in?

Not only do I like its reasoning, but it shows that he's loooking for other laces aside of ZL. I also llike his questioning of ryker for his read on Sho. MAkes it seem less like he's trying to just make a case on somone, and instead hunting for scum.

I can understand your opinion MS. Agree to disagreeing is fine with me. Check your proofs later.

And then here, you take it in stride, instead of panicking like scum, which I also like.

So yeah

 

[Make it Rain!]

Alex, in Skies, remember how we wanted to keep Xonar and J from eachother's throats and situate ourselves in a position to work alongside both of them? I want that. It gives me te absolute most ability to control what goes on both before and after I die. I have seen nothing from either of you yet that should jepardize that. You have an issue, like that last one, then bring it up. Now, later, whenever. I will burn either of you if you're scum, but I will not have my spade and my hoe trying to kill each other if I can avoid it.

Here's the ****ing thing with this:

WE WERE INDY IN SKIES.[/i]

And the thing you're going for right now is not reading J, it's controlling J. You're passing very clear and very obvious scummy play for J because he's sheeping you. You're prioritizing thread power over actually reading him and that pisses me off.

 

[El ZV]

When OS gives a votecount I'd like to have a more descriptive answer than this. Think you can do this for me Cheebs?

As requested:

Votecount:

El ZV (6) - Bubbly Masquerain, Meadowsizzle, Sho-Minamimoto, Inferno3044, Dark Horse, Red Ryu

As I said before:

I would be surprised if there wasn't scum on my wagon. Probably lies into the first half of the wagon. I need to read a bit more to more tie it to a player rather than a voting spot.

~Chibo

Now to shed some light on my previous comment... I would be surprised if scum wasn't on my wagon. In a game of mafia where all the townies are in the dark with who is who, especially kicking off day 1, thoughts are almost always going to start off scattered and people will be going in different directions. I still frankly do not think that I have done anything deserving of the wagon on me right now, it's just bull**** prejudice and hate people have on me that I have to deal with in every game (why do I even play here anymore <_<). But even giving that, it's hard to organize a substantial enough wagon in so little time from like nothing going on so far. 6 out of 17, 3 to a hammer, is pretty substantial. Town just can't really have that kind of organization without knowledge of everyone's alignment like mafia. The only time they do in general is when someone is outlandishly scummy, or it's a later day building off cases from past days combined with flip information. So case and point, I really can't see 6 townies all coming together to vote another townie based off next to nothing. Just doesn't happen, some mafia needs to be on there to boost the numbers.

My comments about it being towards the early half of the wagon is, picturing this, I feel like anyone who jumps on too close to the end of a fast moving pointless wagon like this will instantly be looked at. Mafia's best intentions to keep away from the spotlight like that while accomplishing their goal of getting me would be to get on earlier, and be an extra number on that wagon, making it more like the cool thing to do (voting chibo being the cool thing to do), and keep the wagon healthy and moving. If there's a period of it without getting new votes, it can go stale and eventually fall apart, which is not what mafia wants.

Just focusing on say the first four members for now to keep things simple (obviously keeping the others in mind to, just not trying to write a novel right now)...

Bubbly Masquerain - No read on this guy/vote. As seen especially from Paper Mario Mafia, John has this ******** prejudice crap against me and is willing to throw away all reasoning and intelligent play and vote me based on nothing.

Meadowsizzle - I'm feeling the least well about Meadow in this grouping here. His vote comes from just about nothing, and he further pressures others to vote me as well. I'm looking at around the time of when he votes me, and I don't see any reasoning for why he's voting me. Def not a good sign.

Sho-Minamimoto - I enjoy the attempt at town reasoning and intent from posts like #269, but his 180 in the very next post doesn't sit well. He's also been one of the quieter players in the game so far, and has been playing as just a wagoner which doesn't feel right.

Inferno3044 - Really not diggin' how your vote is literally just following Meadow's vote (who I feel worst about) and NOTHING else. No explanations, no anything. Also a lot of decreased activity the moment the game started and you got your role PM. I've got my eye on you.

~Chibo

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Your pretty ****ing key thing would be pretty ****ing key if I didn't have a damn good reason that will come out when it needs to.

Second paragraph and more later.

 

[El ZV]

Chibo still disgustingly worried about himself and nothing else.

No crap I'm worried about myself lol

It's like 24 hours into this game and I'm at L-2 from me doing freicken nothing wrong.

~Chibo

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Don't read to far into the Rusty Guillotine example. It is not necessarily the case. It's simply an example of how he can agree and constantly and still be town. That hasn't happened yet.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Skies example ai have to read more carefully and see what you're saying. I've skimmed.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Your pretty ****ing key thing would be pretty ****ing key if I didn't have a damn good reason that will come out when it needs to.

Second paragraph and more later.

No, bull****, don't play this game with me. This is always your ****ing back-out as scum when called out.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

No it's ****ing not. I'm behind the counter instead of in the back. I'm not going to let t die.

 

[Make it Rain!]

WL's reaching on me to MP2 with only a few posts into the game is exactly the reason I don't like them.

Just bigger fish to fry ATM.

And you turning around and calling us null after stating this ****ing **** is another example of just scummy play in general. You have a legitimate problem with us, but you'd rather sit back and let Ryker dig into us.

And, fun fact, it's not reaching. I remember that game damn well because I actually got called out for my read on your slot.

Also in Skies, this isn't anything like my play there haha. I started wagons and crumbled to the Rockin wagon.

Angles and other math terms.

I mean, he even admits that his obvtown play in Skies was way better than the **** he's pulling here. C'mon Ryker.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Skies, point me where you're rift and I'm wrong.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

I read t, I call you wrong

 

[Make it Rain!]

No it's ****ing not. I'm behind the counter instead of in the back. I'm not going to let t die.

vote: Meadowsizzle

Put up or shut up then.

 

[Inferno3044]

Chibo most of my reason was pressure and to understand what you're doing. You claimed to leave until RVS ended but still kept talking. I assumed there was a reason and an extra vote would help you give information. I got what I wanted and I liked your description of the wagon. Also the reason im less active is because of my job. I try to post on my phone when I can but I don't get much time.

unvote

I also like MIR a lot. Especially his analysis on Meadow.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

vote: Meadowsizzle

Put up or shut up then.

I JUST ****ING DID YOU ******!

 

[Make it Rain!]

So explain what "t" is. I've kept reading it as ****ed up typos.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Skies, point me where you're rift and I'm wrong.

Do you remember J's posts in that game? Especially the one right after we made that Soup case?

 

[Meadowsizzle]

So explain what "t" is. I've kept reading it as ****ed up typos.

It is it, I think.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Taking it as "it" then still leaves some ****ing vague responses.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Do you remember J's posts in that game? Especially the one right after we made that Soup case?

You say I don't. Legwork, do it. And that one specifically, no, I dpn't.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

Read you paragraph. That's the it.

iPod has less than 10% battery. Off in less than an hour.

 

[Make it Rain!]

You seriously want me to go get ****ing quotes from OTHER ****ING GAMES just to prove that J's SCUMMY ACTIONS HERE are **** that he does as scum?

 

[Krystedez]

Now Chibo is L-2.

This is good.

Yo Krys, I see you down there. Thoughts on the Chibo wagon?

It's tempting but every game I'm in Chibo has been town (BBRM) and lynching him early just because he's chibo is a little distasteful, also impacted by him being aligned with Xivii of whom I haven't had the chance see his play before.

Vote: Bubbly Masquerain





This game already has me entertained.

Where did this come from?

Just RVS. I posted it before I got into a game of league.

Honestly I feel like the Chibo wagon won't hold up a lot of weight to getting us more information. But if you want the day to be over with then fine. I'd rather lynch someone that looked at the wagon funny. Chibo / Xivii is already throwing a lot out on the table in case they die which seems town-like to be honest.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

I WANT YOU TO BACK UP ACCUSATIONS AIMED AT ME!!!

Anything else before my iPod dies?

 

[Sho-Minamimoto]

I feel like a kid getting fought over in a divorce of WL vs. Ryker.

Kind of cool.

There really is nothing or me to respond to besides the fact of your meta being wrong WL. There is such a thing as busy/can only post on the phone while in the car on vacation/lazy townJ. You just aren't choosing to see it as such.

Also if you think I'm just "letting" Ryker control me, you are again mistaken because I know his game. It's better to cooperate with Ryker in the early phases of the game and catch him through connections to other scum and his own actions later in the game. Basic thing, too many people in the game ATM in order to fully go into Ryker so in order to get a better read, following him and trying to see if our thought processes match up = no problem with me.

Check your math.

@DH: thanks. I see where your head is coming from now.

 

[Bubbly Masquerain]

Can't quote from phone, but Chibo's last two walls of text were basically trying to AtE and OMGUS us. He doesn't say reads on us, just says "They got a wagon going on me and I am and John sucks and yeah". Hopefully will remember to quote & address a couple parts when I have a computer.

:|

 

[Krystedez]

Also I'm not saying that because Chibo is usually the lynch worthy townie early game and ends up flipping as such that thats my excuse for not lynching him. Just sayin; I think I wanna wait a bit before a QL.

I'm fine with a Chibo play toDay unless something else happens.

I reread it and hear ya Bubbly. Makes sense.