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I was going to post this in RichBrown's thread, but considering this is a NEW AT for Olimar, I thought it deserved an entirely different thread. Kudos to Rich for inspiring everyone to brainstorm. <3
It's called a jump canceled reverse upsmash.
And no, I don't have a video of it... Soooorry.
How to do it:
You have to do it all in one quick motion. I'm not exactly sure when you're supposed to hold back. It might be directly after you jump, or it may not matter. I can't remember, but my fingers do...
The effect:
You do a running upsmash, but the upsmash is done in the opposite direction. You maintain your momentum through the entire thing, so it's just like a regular one, but you're backwards.
Application:
Um... I thought of a couple of different situational uses.
Ok, so you know how yellow upsmashes get an extended horizontal hitbox on them? (They get an airbox that extends to about a dsmash's length away from Olimar- farther than the other pikmin's upsmash)
So, if you use this with a yellow upsmash, you get that big hitbox behind you.
Situational airchasing:
Airchasing b-reversers (Dabuz told me this one)
You can chase and hit characters like Snake that b-reverse things. The hitbox on a yellow upsmash will extend up and behind Oli quite a bit. You see him b-reverse while you're dashing at him and you reverse your upsmash in one quick motion.
Tech chasing characters that have fallen on platforms.
Imagine this. You hit your opponent onto the middle part of a platform with dtilt. They sneeze or something and miss the tech, lol. You run up to them, charge a reverse upsmash, they roll towards the direction you came thinking they'll dodge it, when WHAM. You hit them with the reversed one.
Upsmash Mindgames!
Yes, I said mindgames. Imagine running towards your opponent that's next to the ledge. There's tons of people that will still roll towards you so you run, charge a reversed upsmash, getting the end of your hitbox to reach the end of your opponent's roll, and then they roll into it thinking they wouldn't get hit because upsmash doesn't have that much range in the back.
More Mindgamez.
Run past your opponent, reverse upsmash. Blammo. You just hit your opponent with the front side of your upsmash after running past him. They can't shield grab that stuff either. They'll be like... "What??? Did that just happen?"
Even more trickery.
Run away from your opponent when they're right next to you, charge a reversed upsmash, and wait till they get near. Unleash it and see what happens. If they're someone that can't shieldgrab it like Sonic or IC, you've got yourself a pretty flashy looking move.
This is all I've really thought of thus far. So maaaaaybe some of this is kinda dumb/useless/not very plausible, but I'm just trying to get your heads churnin!
Real problem: there's only a big difference in the hitbox if you have a yellow. Also, you might have to hold your controller weird to do it. You can do it without the c-stick, but it's easier.
I wrote this really quickly. I just wanted to go ahead and get this post out there. I'll edit it later/tomorrow for clarity/neatness.
It's called a jump canceled reverse upsmash.
And no, I don't have a video of it... Soooorry.
How to do it:
- Run one direction
- Press back
- Hold back
- Jump
- C-stick up (+Z to charge a smash)/ or you can press up and A, but it's harder.
You have to do it all in one quick motion. I'm not exactly sure when you're supposed to hold back. It might be directly after you jump, or it may not matter. I can't remember, but my fingers do...
The effect:
You do a running upsmash, but the upsmash is done in the opposite direction. You maintain your momentum through the entire thing, so it's just like a regular one, but you're backwards.
Application:
Um... I thought of a couple of different situational uses.
Ok, so you know how yellow upsmashes get an extended horizontal hitbox on them? (They get an airbox that extends to about a dsmash's length away from Olimar- farther than the other pikmin's upsmash)
So, if you use this with a yellow upsmash, you get that big hitbox behind you.
Situational airchasing:
Airchasing b-reversers (Dabuz told me this one)
You can chase and hit characters like Snake that b-reverse things. The hitbox on a yellow upsmash will extend up and behind Oli quite a bit. You see him b-reverse while you're dashing at him and you reverse your upsmash in one quick motion.
Tech chasing characters that have fallen on platforms.
Imagine this. You hit your opponent onto the middle part of a platform with dtilt. They sneeze or something and miss the tech, lol. You run up to them, charge a reverse upsmash, they roll towards the direction you came thinking they'll dodge it, when WHAM. You hit them with the reversed one.
Upsmash Mindgames!
Yes, I said mindgames. Imagine running towards your opponent that's next to the ledge. There's tons of people that will still roll towards you so you run, charge a reversed upsmash, getting the end of your hitbox to reach the end of your opponent's roll, and then they roll into it thinking they wouldn't get hit because upsmash doesn't have that much range in the back.
More Mindgamez.
Run past your opponent, reverse upsmash. Blammo. You just hit your opponent with the front side of your upsmash after running past him. They can't shield grab that stuff either. They'll be like... "What??? Did that just happen?"
Even more trickery.
Run away from your opponent when they're right next to you, charge a reversed upsmash, and wait till they get near. Unleash it and see what happens. If they're someone that can't shieldgrab it like Sonic or IC, you've got yourself a pretty flashy looking move.
This is all I've really thought of thus far. So maaaaaybe some of this is kinda dumb/useless/not very plausible, but I'm just trying to get your heads churnin!
Real problem: there's only a big difference in the hitbox if you have a yellow. Also, you might have to hold your controller weird to do it. You can do it without the c-stick, but it's easier.
I wrote this really quickly. I just wanted to go ahead and get this post out there. I'll edit it later/tomorrow for clarity/neatness.
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