Ok I love

[Silent_Jester]

oh... yeah don't mind us. Just practicing our ub3r 1337 debating skills. We kinda invaded the topic's direction

 

[1337marth]

it is ok, just debate about this so called love.

 

[Silent_Jester]

We are don't worry. Feel free to actually explain why your in love. Blackadder and I are kinda doubting it a bit. Thinking your over using the term.

 

[joshisrad]

EDIT AT THE TOP: XD Holy cow, did we break the tables or is it just an error on smashboards?
I will not join the debate hall because from what I've seen, nobody there actually knows how to debate or any of the terms/routines/anything involved in a real debate, and would get crushed by their high school debate team.

EDIT#2: Being that I'm not inclined to continue to banter with this cat, I'll say this: 1337marth, the only reason I posted in here to begin with is because, as I said in my first post, I hate seeing my fellow man getting ****ed over. If you want to learn about the psychology of attraction and everything else, PM me with your questions.

But I think you still assume you're right on this,simply because you study it in highschool or whatever.

lol.

That doesn't make you right, nor does your opinion being yours make you right instantly. You come of as having a pretty large ego, to me.

Don't care, basically ad hominem anyway.

Not all women want a muscle bound man.

Get this through your head. I NEVER said you had to be muscle bound or overtly "masculine."

You still talk like you know what women want, even if you may have only been in 6 relationships. That doesn't count as the whole human race.

The amount of relationships I've been in is completely irrelevant to me knowing what women want. Which, by the way, I do. I know what everyone wants.
p s y c h o l o g y

While they do all work on the same psychological basis, I still say personality affects how this works greatly. I can't prove this, it's just what I think.

Another stunning rebuttal.

Just like you think all that stuff.

I know all this stuff.

And yes, those things ARE based on personality. If they weren't, we would all eat the same food, drive the same car, and love the same person.

You really need to read what I write more thoroughly.

That's a stupid thing to say. Now I can just reply with
"I didn't say you could do that, lulz"
And then you will rebutt with the same thing. Screw this part.

What the hell are you talking about? I don't think you even remember what you initially said here. Here it is.

You can't waltz in, proclaim yourself awesome because you have big abs, then walk out with every girl behind you.

Neither did I, as I already said. You bringing this up is completely irrelevant and does nothing for your seriously lacking argument.

You're blindy assuming things also.

Care to point out what I'm blindly assuming about you?

As Eaor said, you seem to have read "The game" and now you sound like you know all.

LOL
this is getting to be ridiculous. I have not read The Game. Do you even know what that book is?

We're both assuming.

You are, I'm not. You're blindly assuming negative things about me. I have not done this to you. Have you forgotten the context in which the word "assuming" was used already?

Don't you get it? You have no proof you are right. Neither do I. You get up and say "UR WRONGZ!" and I get up and say "NO U AREZ!". We are both in the same frame of mind, only with different opionions of the subject at hand.

There is no proof for anything.
Yes, of course we're just going back and forth with who is right and who isn't. Because YOU have failed to actually provide a logical counter to the original material here. My first post. Until you can defer from your current track, this, of course, will go nowhere. I have psychological prowess backing me up, and you have already stated that you have nothing. To quote you, "I can't prove this, it's just what I think."

You said that before, and it's prolly true. But as I said before, personality affects this greatly.

No, their personality does not affect the psychology that determines the BASIC requirements for a good relationship partner. Yes, their personality is going to dictate the PERSONALITY of the other man that they want, but I have not said a word about changing the person's personality or anything outside of BASIC attraction at all this thread. Is it time that I explain basic attraction in more detail?

GOOD REBUTTLE REBUTTLE! Again, you're trying to take the conversation into a silly flame war. Screw this part too.

No I'm not. Don't try and warp reality. You have failed to provide any solid rebuttal in this "debate," and I'm calling you out on it.

He turend down your advice, as did Eaor, and Jester, and I.

No he didn't. Quote him at this moment of "turning it down" you speak of. It never happened.

I think one guy agreed with you, but I think it shows maybe you're thoughts are slightly...kinda lame really. I find them all very ego tastic and vain.

Blindly assuming the negative, red herring, ad hominem, bandwagon fallacy, blah blah blah.. do you have nothing else?

You don't want to accept what I think is true?

Why should I do that if you haven't proven it to me?
I already know that what you think isn't true because I used to be like you.

You keep mentioning things like you're the only person who knows anything here,

Point out to me when I said that. I'd really like to see this.

and claime we are all wrong because we don't agree with YOU.

Well, obviously you're wrong because you don't agree with me, because I'm right.
By the way, don't mistake this for me saying "I'm the only preson who knows anything here," because I didn't say that. Me saying you're wrong does not equate to me saying that at all.

Get over yourself, and try to have a more open view.

Wow. Think abou the implications of what you just said.

I'm willing to try some of your tactics, and have agreed on some, but you seem to think only in one dogmatic line.

That's pretty low, to get up and say "Women can't think for themselves"

lol

What about the leaders that are female? What about the stats that suggest women are better drivers than men? Doesn't that sway your thoughts that women are lesser people? I think they're better than us males, in many ways.

Okay, I don't know WHY I should give you this much credit, but I'm going to assume you know what a generalization is.
OBVIOUSLY things exist which contradict the norm. But at any given level, there is LARGELY more of the norm than that which contradicts the norm so much that the contradiction isn't even worth considering. I've never heard of stats that suggest that women are better drivers, and even if there were, it's for one thing irrelevant and also very susceptible to statistical inaccuracy, bias, and other things. Get on wikipedia and look up logical fallacies. I'm not saying that women are inferior. You're taking it that way because you're getting all riled up about my advice to 1337marth.
The fact that you think women are better than males in many ways tells me bad things about you. But that doesn't exactly matter. I just feel sorry for you.

I didn't pick up your insult, and I'm sorry for that.

You are sorry, that's for sure.

And AGAIN with the mindless and endless "Your made that analogy!" "you made one after!" "Fine I'll make another!"
Screw this part of the argument also.

You really don't understand how this works. If you're going to just throw away the moments where you know that you're defeated, I'm not even going to bother with you anymore.

I'm not saying I'm right, and I'm not saying that everything you say is wrong, just that your basic veiw seems vain and based on 3 years of life experiance.
I'm aware that I'm hardly owning anyone in this debate, but I don't feel you are either.

Don't care. We're done here, and I couldn't care less about your continual blind assumptions and silly opinions.

 

[Blackadder]

Anyways, I think it's all sorted out now.
I suggest you just try one of the many ideas that have been shot around here on how to get this girl, though the subject changed over time.

Maybe you could try a mix of Both what Josh and I have said, if you agree with both of us, or just Josh, or just me, or one of the many other ideas here.
I suggest you go with what CK said ages ago. Become her friend.

You're to young to worry about all this stuff, I think. I know I am!

Be her friend, and have fun.
The one sentance that does pwn on this thread, methinks.

Oh wait. It seems the debate continues.
*gets ready to read Joshes points again*

 

[MASAHIROx]

I like it how u guys had nothing against my post. even though i agreed w/ joshisrad...

 

[Silent_Jester]

Yep and it didn't end with a big hug between Black, Josh, and I. Figured.

Black is right. Just do whatever, you know. Follow your heart.

 

[1337marth]

I love her because i love her, that is all i can say.

 

[joshisrad]

No, I'm done bantering.

 

[MASAHIROx]

dude you cant always just blindly follow your heart...

 

[1337marth]

I am......

 

[Silent_Jester]

Alright, looks like this is all over. Love is hard to describe tc. I understand. If you love her, you'll know.

Good day gentlemen look foreward to seeing you guys again.

 

[1337marth]

I am......and always will.

 

[joshisrad]

1337marth, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you really don't love her. You're just tricking yourself into thinking you do. That's why you're abusing the ellipses at the end of your self affirmations of your own love. To try and hint to us that you're not completely confident in the fact that you love her.
What do you think love is?

 

[Silent_Jester]

Oh Josh has a little background story for us... just like in KOTOR. Don't worry guys we just have to get a high influence on him and he'll tell us. Then we can make him a JEDI!!!

 

[1337marth]

1337marth, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you really don't love her. You're just tricking yourself into thinking you do. That's why you're abusing the ellipses at the end of your self affirmations of your own love. To try and hint to us that you're not completely confident in the fact that you love her.
What do you think love is?

why do you do this?
Prove me wrong then.

 

[joshisrad]

..what? What's KOTOR?

 

[joshisrad]

1337marth, prove you're right and that you truly believe it. You know you don't, and I know you don't. Jester knows you don't, Blackadder knows you don't.
Look man, it's OKAY to not be in love, or to find out that you were never in love in the first place. The first step towards fixing the problem is admitting you have one.

Er, ****, double post :x I figured someone would post before I did again.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Knights Of The Old Republic. Its a Star Wars RPG that I thought was exceptionally good for a star wars game. Its up on my best game ever list. You should check it out if you have an xbox or pc

 

[1337marth]

1337marth, prove you're right and that you truly believe it. You know you don't, and I know you don't. Jester knows you don't, Blackadder knows you don't.
Look man, it's OKAY to not be in love, or to find out that you were never in love in the first place. The first step towards fixing the problem is admitting you have one.

Er, ****, double post :x I figured someone would post before I did again.

I love her because i know it when I am arround her and when I hug her and everything, I love her

 

[Silent_Jester]

Beleive it or not im actually gonna have to go with Josh on this one. I've been in love once, but a year ago I thought I was in love. I "loved" this girl for over a year. But then I met my current love. I feel so much different about my current. I actually know im in love.

 

[joshisrad]

1337marth, you don't know what love is.

It's OKAY. Don't get all angry about it.

Unless you think you do know what love is, then try and explain it to me.

 

[~rh]

lol, dude, if you've been trying to get her for a year, than give up. like honestly, if she won't go out with you, than get over her. not easy, but, well, it has to be done...

I can give the advice from experience. 3 years wasted; that's some BS experience.

 

[Blackadder]

The amount of relationships I've been in is completely irrelevant to me knowing what women want. Which, by the way, I do. I know what everyone wants.
p s y c h o l o g y

You know what EVERYONE wants do you? You have serious ego troubles.
All uou have done is get up and say "I'm right coz I'm me!"
Again, this is why you come of as vain and a bad debater to me.

I know all this stuff.

I'm sure you do. I'm very sure you do. All 19 year olds know everything, obviously.

Care to point out what I'm blindly assuming about you?

That I was a...what was it? An ACF?
That was based on knowning me deeply, of course.

There is no proof for anything.
Yes, of course we're just going back and forth with who is right and who isn't. Because YOU have failed to actually provide a logical counter to the original material here. My first post. Until you can defer from your current track, this, of course, will go nowhere. I have psychological prowess backing me up, and you have already stated that you have nothing. To quote you, "I can't prove this, it's just what I think."

If there is no proof for anything, how can you have psychological prowess to back you up?

No he didn't. Quote him at this moment of "turning it down" you speak of. It never happened.[/QUOTE]
"“Joshisrad is just trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about because he read The Game.” That’s where Eor turned you down.

Well, obviously you're wrong because you don't agree with me, because I'm right.

Welcome to ego down again, people.

Okay, I don't know WHY I should give you this much credit, but I'm going to assume you know what a generalization is.
OBVIOUSLY things exist which contradict the norm. But at any given level, there is LARGELY more of the norm than that which contradicts the norm so much that the contradiction isn't even worth considering. I've never heard of stats that suggest that women are better drivers, and even if there were, it's for one thing irrelevant and also very susceptible to statistical inaccuracy, bias, and other things. Get on wikipedia and look up logical fallacies. I'm not saying that women are inferior. You're taking it that way because you're getting all riled up about my advice to 1337marth.
The fact that you think women are better than males in many ways tells me bad things about you. But that doesn't exactly matter. I just feel sorry for you.

I feel sorry for you, in that you assume that women are nothing but blank boards of Alpha male loving inferior idiots. *Thumbs up*

Don't care. We're done here, and I couldn't care less about your continual blind assumptions and silly opinions.

Yes, we are done here. You are hardly worth anyones time, and I advise everyone to take the advice CK. Be friends with her. Best advice there is to it. You don't think I'm wroth arguing with, and I feel the same about you.
Debate over.

 

[Blackadder]

Also, I will agree with Josh on the latest points.

I doubt you are in love 1337 Marth.

"Puppy love" is what you are feeling, or limerance, or a crush. Whatever, all the same thing.
Sorry man, but it's the truth. ):

 

[joshisrad]

Look Blackadder, you're just trying to provoke me further. But I have to point out one thing that is not valid to the discussion, so at least I can feel alright about it. It involves your intelligence and reading comprehension.

Here's how the exchange went. This is to help you understand your misconception of the "blind assumption" deal.
You said I was similar to Dr. Phil. You didn't call me Dr. Phil. I understood this, saw how silly it was, and said you are similar to an AFC. I did not blindly assume that you are an AFC. I pulled the same card you did in a different way. It's a method of smartly turning your own failure around on you so that it's obvious to you. As it stands, I have not made any negative assumptions about you.
The debate was over before it even began, because you never had even a single infallible rebuttal to make on the original post.

 

[Blackadder]

Look Blackadder, you're just trying to provoke me further. But I have to point out one thing that is not valid to the discussion, so at least I can feel alright about it. It involves your intelligence and reading comprehension.

Here's how the exchange went. This is to help you understand your misconception of the "blind assumption" deal.
You said I was similar to Dr. Phil. You didn't call me Dr. Phil. I understood this, saw how silly it was, and said you are similar to an AFC. I did not blindly assume that you are an AFC. I pulled the same card you did in a different way. It's a method of smartly turning your own failure around on you so that it's obvious to you. As it stands, I have not made any negative assumptions about you.

I wasn't trying to provoke you there, I was just trying to get in my final say in that. Maybe we have no negative assumptions, but I can't help but feel you often took stabs a the other people here's intelligence, and that isn't exactly fair debating. I don't really hold anything against you, as I assume you don't at me. We got in a heated debate, as we both feel strongly about our points. If we did, we would have ended up flamming.

In the end, I guess what 1337 does is up to him, and not us.
Even if I'm right, and you're wrong, and I'm right, or I'm wrong, and you're right.

Edit to your edit: That's opionion.

 

[Bedi Vegeta]

Kiddies, you're not playing nice. Don't make me close this.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Yeah guys. It's his life. A few random strangers on a forum shouldn't make the final cut for him.

1337 tell us what you end up doing and what happens

 

[Blackadder]

Kiddies, you're not playing nice. Don't make me close this.

Heh, I was wating for you to come FDV. I assumed after you saw us all go at each other on the other romance thread you would find us on this one.

I ASSUME it's over now.
M I RITE >_>

 

[1337marth]

Heh, I was wating for you to come FDV. I assumed after you saw us all go at each other on the other romance thread you would find us on this one.

I ASSUME it's over now.
M I RITE >_>

lol, but we are good no killing yet, but I love her.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Well find out if you really do. Only time knows.

 

[1337marth]

Well find out if you really do. Only time knows.

What is that suppose to mean?

 

[joshisrad]

FDV, spare us the silly age card. You can do your job less condescendingly, easy.

Jester, I dunno man. I wouldn't take that approach if we all knew it was something that wouldn't yield positive results. Like, if he was going to kill his best friend. You know?

1337Marth, try and think rationally here. What is love to you?

 

[1337marth]

When you love someone and want to be with them for the rest of you life, and loving being with them, also I win.

 

[Silent_Jester]

1337 might actually be on to something there. Thats how I feel about her...

 

[1337marth]

1337 might actually be on to something there. Thats how I feel about her...

Told you......>_>

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

I love this girl, but she says I only like you as a friend what should I do?

Whip your s*** out. Works like a charm

 

[Red Exodus]

Love is blind. She's just going to end up saying "I love you more than the world, but I met this guy..."

Don't give your heart, or you won't ever have one again.

So true. I think somehow that happened to me. I don't remember being so cold to everything when I was younger, but now even 3 local tragedies, each in quick session after the other aren't enough to have much of an effect.

I've never been in love, I've had crushes and felt lust but never love. I don't know what you should do, but just remember if she doesn't want you for who you are you shouldn't have to change everything about yourself to get her. Maybe someday later she'll come around.

LMFAO Dylan, I just pictured what that would be like.

TC: I love you *unzips*
Girl: OMGWDF?

 

[Silent_Jester]

I need Blackadder. It looks like we have a flame war commencing... I was referring to Dylan. Red I think your right.