Ok I love

[1337marth]

I love this girl, but she says I only like you as a friend what should I do?

 

[Zook]

Try to win her over, I say. At least you can get up the nerve to ask her how she feels towards you.

 

[1337marth]

Umm, I am trying, but It has been a year.

 

[Wuss]

lol, dude, if you've been trying to get her for a year, than give up. like honestly, if she won't go out with you, than get over her. not easy, but, well, it has to be done...

 

[1337marth]

lol, dude, if you've been trying to get her for a year, than give up. like honestly, if she won't go out with you, than get over her. not easy, but, well, it has to be done...

But I really love her.

 

[Eor]

It's been a year, and if she says "only friends", then you're stuck in the friend zone. Be a true friend and let her go. Don't try and put unfair pressure on her, respect her and understand that she doesn't like you the same way. If you keep trying to get with her, despite her saying "No", you're going to loose her forever, in every way.

 

[1337marth]

It's been a year, and if she says "only friends", then you're stuck in the friend zone. Be a true friend and let her go. Don't try and put unfair pressure on her, respect her and understand that she doesn't like you the same way. If you keep trying to get with her, despite her saying "No", you're going to loose her forever, in every way.

Thank you.

 

[Bailey]

There is a difference in thinking you love someone and actually loving them. Love is a word tossed around too much in this day and age. You might think you love her but ask yourself how much do you know about her. You might be attracted to her but maybe not love.

Besides all that if you have been like this for a year I am sorry bro move on. Apparently she doesn't like you. Sorry there is always MySpace lol

 

[Vulpine51]

My thought is you cant really be in love if you're not being loved back. Now there are people out there who will love you back and you're wasting time on this girl.

Get out there and mac it hard man. If this girl is such a good friend she could introduce you to some of her own friends. And since you've been crushing on her for a year, she may be eager to do so.* Use your resources!

*Might even make her jealous. Enjoy the hunt!

 

[Ensee]

I say you should overcome your narrow minded ways and realize love does not exist, and you don't have to go out and get a girlfriend to live a good life, and don't waste time trying to find the "girl of your dreams."

Good day.

 

[Crimson King]

Another way is be the best friend for her. If she wants to just be friends, be a **** good one. Listen when she talks and go from there. Eventually, she'll realize if you are on the same level.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Love is blind. She's just going to end up saying "I love you more than the world, but I met this guy..."

Don't give your heart, or you won't ever have one again.

 

[joshisrad]

No, no no no. You're LJBF'ed. It's over. You need to build attraction from day 1 and escalate with kino and playing it cocky/funny. You don't love her, you just really want to **** her. You're also a romantic at heart, so this is your psychological way of constructing it. Search for a book called Magic Bullets or The Juggler Method and buy some pheromone spray. androticsdirect is a great place for the latter.

The thing is she isn't attracted to you. That's your fault. Attraction isn't a choice, but not as much as you think. Put some MAJOR distance between you and her right now. Why are you keeping around her right now? Because you want to take things to the next step but are too much of an AFC to do it?

Don't call her, don't talk to her, don't send her emails or hang out with her or any of that stuff you do. Just live your life, and improve it. Get a new hairstyle, some new, nice clothes from a trendy place(or ask some other chick friend who seems to know what she's doing, if she doesn't JUMP at the chance to help you out there then she is pretty strange), make sure you've got superb hygiene, and take up activities or hobbies or a lifestyle that would set you up to display higher value to others. This is one of the most important things that attract women. Higher value men. Men who know they are the prize. If you're in high school, go play football or some sport. That's pretty much the easiest way to do it. But it doesn't have to be physical- choir is another sweet way to do it. But you better be **** passionate about whatever it is you are going to do. Are you a good actor? Rower? Writer? Chemist? Something that would impress people and yourself.

Start lifting weights and running. Get your body in great shape. And after you've done all of this stuff, take the improved you out to a club or somewhere you can go sarging. Have fun with random women. Women are also attracted to pre-selection, and they can smell the other girls on you. Pheromones.

You do all this, and when your chick friend starts missing having an orbiter like the old you on hand to compensate for her LSE or whatever the **** she's doing, she will be blown away and instantly attracted to you.

There's obviously a lot more to it than just this. If anyone ever needs help with girl ****, I know female psychology like the back of my hand, and I hate seeing guys get ****ed over like I used to in my early years of high school.

 

[1337marth]

No, no no no. You're LJBF'ed. It's over. You need to build attraction from day 1 and escalate with kino and playing it cocky/funny. You don't love her, you just really want to **** her. You're also a romantic at heart, so this is your psychological way of constructing it. Search for a book called Magic Bullets or The Juggler Method and buy some pheromone spray. androticsdirect is a great place for the latter.

The thing is she isn't attracted to you. That's your fault. Attraction isn't a choice, but not as much as you think. Put some MAJOR distance between you and her right now. Why are you keeping around her right now? Because you want to take things to the next step but are too much of an AFC to do it?

Don't call her, don't talk to her, don't send her emails or hang out with her or any of that stuff you do. Just live your life, and improve it. Get a new hairstyle, some new, nice clothes from a trendy place(or ask some other chick friend who seems to know what she's doing, if she doesn't JUMP at the chance to help you out there then she is pretty strange), make sure you've got superb hygiene, and take up activities or hobbies or a lifestyle that would set you up to display higher value to others. This is one of the most important things that attract women. Higher value men. Men who know they are the prize. If you're in high school, go play football or some sport. That's pretty much the easiest way to do it. But it doesn't have to be physical- choir is another sweet way to do it. But you better be **** passionate about whatever it is you are going to do. Are you a good actor? Rower? Writer? Chemist? Something that would impress people and yourself.

Start lifting weights and running. Get your body in great shape. And after you've done all of this stuff, take the improved you out to a club or somewhere you can go sarging. Have fun with random women. Women are also attracted to pre-selection, and they can smell the other girls on you. Pheromones.

You do all this, and when your chick friend starts missing having an orbiter like the old you on hand to compensate for her LSE or whatever the **** she's doing, she will be blown away and instantly attracted to you.

There's obviously a lot more to it than just this. If anyone ever needs help with girl ****, I know female psychology like the back of my hand, and I hate seeing guys get ****ed over like I used to in my early years of high school.

I am going to kill myself now...

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

roofies...

 

[Pink Reaper]

become an hero

 

[joshisrad]

LMFAO, you can't be serious.

 

[Eor]

I think Crimson had the best advice for still trying to get her. Joshisrad is just trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about because he read The Game. Though getting in shape is always a good plan.

 

[joshisrad]

I didn't read The Game. That's just a document of whoever it was' life, I believe. I know what I'm talking about because I'm a PUA. :]

 

[MASAHIROx]

josh has it down.

i would get over her.

get drunk. cry about it. then 10 min later, move on.

if she keeps talking to you, just give her plain neutral answers till she slowly stops. shes just trying to keep you hooked on her, you've prob already shown way too much interest and she is just trying to put you down easy. dont fall into the spot of being the guy that she only wants to be friends with when she feels like it. very bad spot to be in and it can tease you horribly.

ive been there and it sucks.

move on.

and if she still tries to be your friend longer then you expected...make her jealous lol

BUT if she notices that you've changed and calls you out on it. just be completely honest and tell her how whats shes doing to you makes you feel.

 

[Silent_Jester]

wow Josh... as much as I hate arguing online. I REALLY want to. That has to be the stupidest thing i've ever heard in my life. TC just admit exactly how you feel. Even if I doesn't work, it will still feel good.

 

[joshisrad]

LOL. I dare you. Try and argue your opinion.

 

[Silent_Jester]

There is a little thing called a "heart" and this heart produces emotion. AMAZING!!! This heart lets people fall in love. "Love" is this specail thing that only truly happens once in your life. (This can be debated) It makes you want to have an "Emotional Relationship" as well as a "Physical Relationship"

 

[joshisrad]

You can't be serious. XD
I believe in love and romance absolutely and I'm probably one of the most loyal, caring, genuine people you'll come across. Or at least, that's what I'm told. I like to agree with it. Irrelevant.
But don't be so silly. Your heart doesn't produce emotion or attraction. It pumps blood. Love happening only once in your life is debatable. I'm not sure where I stand on that anymore. I used to think it happened only once, but I realized I've never been in love, so I can't really say for sure. But there's no way for you to prove it, not to mention it's completely irrelevant and you still haven't come up with any kind of logical followthrough to prove that what I've said is truly as stupid as you want to believe it is.

oh, I just read that (This can be debated) part of your post. not like it matters, your entire post is still completely irrelevant, red herring garbage.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Im referring to the emotional part of your brain if you want to get scientific. If you've never been in love than your opinion doesn't matter much.

Dont mean to diss a fellow smasher, just giving my side

 

[Blackadder]

No, no no no. You're LJBF'ed. It's over. You need to build attraction from day 1 and escalate with kino and playing it cocky/funny. You don't love her, you just really want to **** her. You're also a romantic at heart, so this is your psychological way of constructing it. Search for a book called Magic Bullets or The Juggler Method and buy some pheromone spray. androticsdirect is a great place for the latter.

The thing is she isn't attracted to you. That's your fault. Attraction isn't a choice, but not as much as you think. Put some MAJOR distance between you and her right now. Why are you keeping around her right now? Because you want to take things to the next step but are too much of an AFC to do it?

Don't call her, don't talk to her, don't send her emails or hang out with her or any of that stuff you do. Just live your life, and improve it. Get a new hairstyle, some new, nice clothes from a trendy place(or ask some other chick friend who seems to know what she's doing, if she doesn't JUMP at the chance to help you out there then she is pretty strange), make sure you've got superb hygiene, and take up activities or hobbies or a lifestyle that would set you up to display higher value to others. This is one of the most important things that attract women. Higher value men. Men who know they are the prize. If you're in high school, go play football or some sport. That's pretty much the easiest way to do it. But it doesn't have to be physical- choir is another sweet way to do it. But you better be **** passionate about whatever it is you are going to do. Are you a good actor? Rower? Writer? Chemist? Something that would impress people and yourself.

Start lifting weights and running. Get your body in great shape. And after you've done all of this stuff, take the improved you out to a club or somewhere you can go sarging. Have fun with random women. Women are also attracted to pre-selection, and they can smell the other girls on you. Pheromones.

You do all this, and when your chick friend starts missing having an orbiter like the old you on hand to compensate for her LSE or whatever the **** she's doing, she will be blown away and instantly attracted to you.

There's obviously a lot more to it than just this. If anyone ever needs help with girl ****, I know female psychology like the back of my hand, and I hate seeing guys get ****ed over like I used to in my early years of high school.

I gotta say, to me, you really sound like a walking romance book blurb.
And a lot of it goes against what I would say you should do to get a girlfriend, or just shag her then and now. I would say the idea of "Ignoring" her and changing your lifestyle is pretty whack. I mean, al of of that stuff to "improve" your life sounds like pretending to be someone else, and that will hardly work. Also, a lot of this stuff sounds VERY much like it came out of...well, the movie Grease!

I would say the best way is very different to this, as women aren't just ONE big mind or personality. I know many girls coulden't care less about a guy with big abs, plays hard to get, and taking up a hobby in one day while being passionate about it. Wha? I would recommend just getting in there, making the girl laugh a lot, and building up a friendship with her. Then, when you feel the time is right, ask her out. Not try to be something your not, simply because eventually she will find out your not who you pretend to be.

I'm not flamming, just saying I think you sound a little like Dr. Phil, only more pushy and know-it-all. (And he's pretty pushy know-it-all!)

I would, however, agree with the point about hygeine.
Though I have had girlfriends and I'm pretty scruffy long haired/laid back type of guy, and I don't make sure I look awesome everyday.

Just my opionion guys, I just wanted to say.

 

[joshisrad]

The emotional part of your brain? Geez. Please, science me more, I'm interested.

I could pull the same crap that you just did by taking a part of your demeanor which is wholly irrelevant to the validity of the argument and point it out to say that you're wrong. If you haven't figured out by now when the proper time is to use "than," then your opinion doesn't matte. But that would most certainly be a fallible statement. I'll followup by asking: love and attraction are two very different things.

You did neither dis me nor give your side. Are you ready to give it?

 

[Silent_Jester]

*Dont Feed The Troll*

 

[joshisrad]

Silent Jester, you're the one trolling on my helping 1337Marth out.

I gotta say, to me, you really sound like a walking romance book blurb.
And a lot of it goes against what I would say you should do to get a girlfriend, or just shag her then and now. I would say the idea of "Ignoring" her and changing your lifestyle is pretty whack. I mean, al of of that stuff to "improve" your life sounds like pretending to be someone else, and that will hardly work. Also, a lot of this stuff sounds VERY much like it came out of...well, the movie Grease!

You're joking. Grease? Have you seen the movie?
Look. I'll be nice and help you think this through because you're not being as blind and naive as the other person.
How is taking up a new hobby that you enjoy and would want to be passionate about pretending to be someone else? Ignoring the chick is a very good option. It proves that you, the man, are not needy, wussy, and that you are independent and have other options easy(pre-selection). Strong. Masculine. The prize. It's a freeze-out. She's been keeping him around because it makes her feel better about herself to be able to keep boys that she knows are interested in her on a leash like that. That's my postulation. Whether or not it's true doesn't matter, because this freeze-out is a universal charm. And his lifestyle obviously isn't getting girls, and since reproduction is a very, very prime function that all men strive to acheive, how is improving it "whack," as you put it?

I would say the best way is very different to this, as women aren't just ONE big mind or personality.

lol. okay, you've got some learning to do about human psychology.

I know many girls coulden't care less about a guy with big abs, plays hard to get, and taking up a hobby in one day while being passionate about it.

You took what I said verrrry superficially. Bad boy.

Wha? I would recommend just getting in there, making the girl laugh a lot, and building up a friendship with her. Then, when you feel the time is right, ask her out. Not try to be something your not, simply because eventually she will find out your not who you pretend to be.

It's hard to explain, but I never told him to not be himself. But he needs to be a better himself. And that includes not being a supplicating wuss like he is now. I never told him to not be himself.
But you are close on, there. Making the girl laugh is good(but only if you're doing it RIGHT), as is building "friendship," which we would do better to call rapport and comfort. Think about human interaction like a businessman: a fine balance of social reward and punishment - but this comes most before building rapport with a person. You must attract before you build comfort, or you're dumped into the friend zone. You do not want to be friends with a girl you are interested in.
Which isn't to say that you can't find yourself in a relationship with a girl after you've befriended her. I've had it happen accidentally before. But it's WAY harder and not even worth it.
You also don't want to "ask her out." Be assertive, not a supplicating little ***** about it. Tell her you're both going out to go on a picnic by the river or something. And be swift and concise about saying it. Don't ask her to a **** movie, haha. Women want decisiveness, because you already know they can't make up their minds on their own.

I'm not flamming, just saying I think you sound a little like Dr. Phil, only more pushy and know-it-all. (And he's pretty pushy know-it-all!)

I know, and I respect that you are not flaming. But I must also "just say" I think you sound a little like an AFC. An average, frustrated chump, who fails often with women because of his inferior approach to them. But I can tell that you've had at least a little success with women.

 

[Blackadder]

You're joking. Grease? Have you seen the movie?
Look. I'll be nice and help you think this through because you're not being as blind and naive as the other person.
How is taking up a new hobby that you enjoy and would want to be passionate about pretending to be someone else? Ignoring the chick is a very good option. It proves that you, the man, are not needy, wussy, and that you are independent and have other options easy(pre-selection). Strong. Masculine. The prize. It's a freeze-out. She's been keeping him around because it makes her feel better about herself to be able to keep boys that she knows are interested in her on a leash like that. That's my postulation. Whether or not it's true doesn't matter, because this freeze-out is a universal charm. And his lifestyle obviously isn't getting girls, and since reproduction is a very, very prime function that all men strive to acheive, how is improving it "whack," as you put it?

While I agree sex is one of the striving things in the human sub-conciouse romantic...stuff (Pity, I started that well) I don't feel the "being da man!" is exactly what every single girl in the world wants. Ignoring her isn't going to work on every girl. You speak of women as if they are all a one person, ignoring the truth that personality is a real attribute to how people percieve things, from food to love, to cars. You can't waltz in, proclaim yourself awesome because you have big abs, then walk out with every girl behind you. And what do you mean it doesn't matter if your theory is true or not? That just shows uncertanty in your own thoughts, and an implies you don't feel strongly onj this yourself anyways.

Also, I haveseen Grease.

lol. okay, you've got some learning to do about human psychology.

I would say you do to. I'm only 15, and I don't know all that much about life.
you're 19, and only 4 years older. You don't know everything like you seem to think you do. 19 years isn't long enough to fully grasp human romance in it's entirety. Women are not all the same, vain person.

You took what I said verrrry superficially. Bad boy.

Your points all sound very plastic and fake to me.

It's hard to explain, but I never told him to not be himself. But he needs to be a better himself. And that includes not being a supplicating wuss like he is now. I never told him to not be himself.
But you are close on, there. Making the girl laugh is good(but only if you're doing it RIGHT), as is building "friendship," which we would do better to call rapport and comfort. Think about human interaction like a businessman: a fine balance of social reward and punishment - but this comes most before building rapport with a person. You must attract before you build comfort, or you're dumped into the friend zone. You do not want to be friends with a girl you are interested in.
Which isn't to say that you can't find yourself in a relationship with a girl after you've befriended her. I've had it happen accidentally before. But it's WAY harder and not even worth it.
You also don't want to "ask her out." Be assertive, not a supplicating little ***** about it. Tell her you're both going out to go on a picnic by the river or something. And be swift and concise about saying it. Don't ask her to a **** movie, haha. Women want decisiveness, because you already know they can't make up their minds on their own.

You're being a litte harsh on 1337, saying he is a wuss because he isn't like you. "You've got some learning to do about human psychology".
And you DON'T want to be friends with a girl your into? Wha?
How does that make a lick of sense? I woulden't say it isn't worth it at all, friendship is a **** good thing to have handy. And then you hit the big sexist rail. Women can't make their minds up themselves? That's hugely sexist, and far from the truth.

I know, and I respect that you are not flaming. But I must also "just say" I think you sound a little like an AFC. An average, frustrated chump, who fails often with women because of his inferior approach to them. But I can tell that you've had at least a little success with women.

AFC...I don't know what that is, sorry.
But I have had some success with women, yes, but I'm far from frustrated.
I'm not cutting myself over my lack of sex right now, I'm rather happy being single at the mo. One day I'll bother to try a relationship again, but I will still use my "Inferior approach" to the idea.

 

[joshisrad]

While I agree sex is one of the striving things in the human sub-conciouse romantic...stuff (Pity, I started that well) I don't feel the "being da man!" is exactly what every single girl in the world wants.

Right, because the girl doesn't want a man to be a man, she wants a woman..?

Ignoring her isn't going to work on every girl. You speak of women as if they are all a one person, ignoring the truth that personality is a real attribute to how people percieve things, from food to love, to cars.

No I don't. I speak about women like they all operate under the same basic psychological principles. And they do. Personality doesn't have anything to do with it, because we aren't talking about food, cars, or love(which isn't a perception based on personality).

You can't waltz in, proclaim yourself awesome because you have big abs, then walk out with every girl behind you.

Nor did I say you could do that. Don't be silly.

And what do you mean it doesn't matter if your theory is true or not? That just shows uncertanty in your own thoughts, and an implies you don't feel strongly onj this yourself anyways.

No it doesn't. You're blindly assuming the negative with no actual means of drawing that from anything. You're saying this just to try and prove me wrong, but it's not even an actual form of data. It's a blind assumption. Did you actually read what I said? I said that it doesn't matter if my postulation on the motives of this girl is true or not because, and I quote, "because this freeze-out is a universal charm." Which is to say that it will take effect no matter what the circumstances.

I would say you do to. I'm only 15, and I don't know all that much about life.
you're 19, and only 4 years older. You don't know everything like you seem to think you do. 19 years isn't long enough to fully grasp human romance in it's entirety. Women are not all the same, vain person.

I NEVER said that I know everything. But you're still being incredibly naive. Women are obviously not all vain, or the same person. But they still operate by the same basic psychology.

Your points all sound very plastic and fake to me.

GOOD REBUTTAL!!!!!

You're being a litte harsh on 1337, saying he is a wuss because he isn't like you. "You've got some learning to do about human psychology".

No, I said that to YOU. I'm not being harsh on 1337marth, I'm trying to help him. You're just taking it the wrong way because you don't want to believe that my advice is true.

And you DON'T want to be friends with a girl your into? Wha?[/quote
How does that make a lick of sense? I woulden't say it isn't worth it at all, friendship is a **** good thing to have handy.

Absolutely, friendship is great. When you get LJBF'ed, it's very nice to be able to have her introduce you to her other hot friends so you can game them. But if you're interested in the girl, and want a good relationship with her, you do not want to supplicate and be her friend until the relationship happens.
You really just don't want to believe that what I'm saying is true, because you think I'm..

And then you hit the big sexist rail. Women can't make their minds up themselves? That's hugely sexist, and far from the truth.

So if I say that, throughout history, it has been proven that black people perform to a higher degree of athletic ability than white people, am I racist?
In theory, yes. If I say that, throughout history, women have been proven to have larger boobs than men do, am I sexist?
In theory, yes.
We're all sexist, racist, and everything prejudist you can think of. They're all stupid terms. I'm not a mysognist, if that's what you're trying to imply.
It is an extremely common thing for women to not be the more decisive than men, and for them to want a man who is decisive and assertive(but not overly assertive).

AFC...I don't know what that is, sorry.

Even though I explained it the IMMEDIATE sentence after? You really DON'T read what I write!

But I have had some success with women, yes, but I'm far from frustrated.

And I'm far from Dr. Phil, but that didn't prevent you from making the analogy. Don't be such a tool about this.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Just my point Blackadder, Thats also my side of the arguement. Josh, age doesn't mean a thing compared to experence. I was in love, she was all I thought about day and night. Then one night my great grandfather (My hero, age 92. Died of natural causes) passed away and I was watching as he did. I felt horrible. I had a habit of taking things out on the people I cared about the most. I just couldn't do this to her, I loved her to much to hurt her. So I broke up with her, hoping not to get angry and frustrated at her. I said it would only be temporary until I could cool down a bit. She agreed and said "I love you more than the world." I replied "I Love you more than this world and the moon." The day I was gonna walk up to her, kiss her, and be with her. She said she didn't want to be with me. She met somebody else. Someone I already hated... she knew too. Apperently in my attempt at not hurting her, I failed and hurt her. I still love her more than anything, but I know that all that matters is she's happy. Even if that means us not being together.

 

[joshisrad]

Just my point Blackadder, Thats also my side of the arguement.

Don't take what he says and pretend that you actually have arguments to make.

Josh, age doesn't mean a thing compared to experence.

I never said it does. The first person to point out age was Blackadder. Fool.

I was in love, she was all I thought about day and night. Then one night my great grandfather (My hero, age 92. Died of natural causes) passed away and I was watching as he did. I felt horrible. I had a habit of taking things out on the people I cared about the most. I just couldn't do this to her, I loved her to much to hurt her. So I broke up with her, hoping not to get angry and frustrated at her. I said it would only be temporary until I could cool down a bit. She agreed and said "I love you more than the world." I replied "I Love you more than this world and the moon." The day I was gonna walk up to her, kiss her, and be with her. She said she didn't want to be with me. She met somebody else. Someone I already hated... she knew too. Apperently in my attempt at not hurting her, I failed and hurt her. I still love her more than anything, but I know that all that matters is she's happy. Even if that means us not being together.

Great!! Good sap story, you might sell it to a children's book company or something. But uh yeah it's COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT HERE SORRY

 

[Silent_Jester]

Whatever man. Blackadder just ignore this topic. I've got plenty of *Don't Feed The Troll* signs from my gamefaq days.

* DONT FEED THE TROLL *

 

[joshisrad]

Silent Jester, you are seriously confused. You are the one trolling in this topic. I'm helping the guy and giving him good, solid advice, and offering that he can inquire further if he is confused or wants a better understanding of the psychology of it all. You are trolling, telling me I'm wrong because you've been in love(lol), and trying to smack talk me with naive fairytale BS that only provokes more silliness.

 

[Blackadder]

Right, because the girl doesn't want a man to be a man, she wants a woman..?

...that's actually a possiblity?
But I think you still assume you're right on this,simply because you study it in highschool or whatever. That doesn't make you right, nor does your opinion being yours make you right instantly. You come of as having a pretty large ego, to me. Not all women want a muscle bound man. You still talk like you know what women want, even if you may have only been in 6 relationships. That doesn't count as the whole human race.

No I don't. I speak about women like they all operate under the same basic psychological principles. And they do. Personality doesn't have anything to do with it, because we aren't talking about food, cars, or love(which isn't a perception based on personality).

While they do all work on the same psychological basis, I still say personality affects how this works greatly. I can't prove this, it's just what I think.
Just like you think all that stuff. And yes, those things ARE based on personality. If they weren't, we would all eat the same food, drive the same car, and love the same person.

Nor did I say you could do that. Don't be silly.

That's a stupid thing to say. Now I can just reply with
"I didn't say you could do that, lulz"
And then you will rebutt with the same thing. Screw this part.

No it doesn't. You're blindly assuming the negative with no actual means of drawing that from anything. You're saying this just to try and prove me wrong, but it's not even an actual form of data. It's a blind assumption. Did you actually read what I said? I said that it doesn't matter if my postulation on the motives of this girl is true or not because, and I quote, "because this freeze-out is a universal charm." Which is to say that it will take effect no matter what the circumstances.

You're blindy assuming things also. As Eaor said, you seem to have read "The game" and now you sound like you know all. We're both assuming. Don't you get it? You have no proof you are right. Neither do I. You get up and say "UR WRONGZ!" and I get up and say "NO U AREZ!". We are both in the same frame of mind, only with different opionions of the subject at hand.

I NEVER said that I know everything. But you're still being incredibly naive. Women are obviously not all vain, or the same person. But they still operate by the same basic psychology.

You said that before, and it's prolly true. But as I said before, personality affects this greatly.

GOOD REBUTTAL!!!!!

GOOD REBUTTLE REBUTTLE! Again, you're trying to take the conversation into a silly flame war. Screw this part too.

No, I said that to YOU. I'm not being harsh on 1337marth, I'm trying to help him. You're just taking it the wrong way because you don't want to believe that my advice is true.

He turend down your advice, as did Eaor, and Jester, and I.
I think one guy agreed with you, but I think it shows maybe you're thoughts are slightly...kinda lame really. I find them all very ego tastic and vain.

Absolutely, friendship is great. When you get LJBF'ed, it's very nice to be able to have her introduce you to her other hot friends so you can game them. But if you're interested in the girl, and want a good relationship with her, you do not want to supplicate and be her friend until the relationship happens.
You really just don't want to believe that what I'm saying is true, because you think I'm..

You don't want to accept what I think is true? You keep mentioning things like you're the only person who knows anything here, and claime we are all wrong because we don't agree with YOU. Get over yourself, and try to have a more open view. I'm willing to try some of your tactics, and have agreed on some, but you seem to think only in one dogmatic line.

So if I say that, throughout history, it has been proven that black people perform to a higher degree of athletic ability than white people, am I racist?
In theory, yes. If I say that, throughout history, women have been proven to have larger boobs than men do, am I sexist?
In theory, yes.
We're all sexist, racist, and everything prejudist you can think of. They're all stupid terms. I'm not a mysognist, if that's what you're trying to imply.
It is an extremely common thing for women to not be the more decisive than men, and for them to want a man who is decisive and assertive(but not overly assertive).

That's pretty low, to get up and say "Women can't think for themselves"
What about the leaders that are female? What about the stats that suggest women are better drivers than men? Doesn't that sway your thoughts that women are lesser people? I think they're better than us males, in many ways.

Even though I explained it the IMMEDIATE sentence after? You really DON'T read what I write!

I didn't pick up your insult, and I'm sorry for that.

And I'm far from Dr. Phil, but that didn't prevent you from making the analogy. Don't be such a tool about this.

And AGAIN with the mindless and endless "Your made that analogy!" "you made one after!" "Fine I'll make another!"
Screw this part of the argument also.

I'm not saying I'm right, and I'm not saying that everything you say is wrong, just that your basic veiw seems vain and based on 3 years of life experiance.
I'm aware that I'm hardly owning anyone in this debate, but I don't feel you are either.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Guys stop it! Your text is making me cry.

Blackadder is right. This isn't going anywhere and we can argue about this all day. NOW we can have a civalized disscussion. (PLEASE MAKE ME ABLE TO GO THE THE DEBATE HALL!!! I HATE TRYING TO DISSCUSS HERE!!!) Im sorry Josh. Now it's your guys is turns.

 

[Blackadder]

Guys stop it! Your text is making me cry.

Blackadder is right. This isn't going anywhere and we can argue about this all day. NOW we can have a civalized disscussion. (PLEASE MAKE ME ABLE TO GO THE THE DEBATE HALL!!! I HATE TRYING TO DISSCUSS HERE!!!) Im sorry Josh. Now it's your guys is turns.

I'm really not angry or annoyed with Josh, and I'm just trying to show him my view, and he is doing so with his to me. I admit I respect Josh for going on with this admirably, but this argument is getting a little heated, but that's just the way it goes. We haven't made any real personal hits at eachother, so it's all fair and good. While I don't agree with most of what josh is saying, I will say he should apply for debate hall.

Also, I think I was the first one to bring age into the conversation before.

 

[Silent_Jester]

You have to apply for the debate hall? I didn't know that. I have to admit I respect him also.

 

[1337marth]

I am just 14, but I have never had a gf.