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[A_Phoenix_Down]

Bowser definitely seems like he rose up a few placements.

 

[Aninymouse]

I dunno what the commentary was like earlier, but Scar and Toph are doing a very good job.

It sucked, because the FFA matches sucked (mostly), and trying to commentate FFA matches is so reactionary that no meaningful comments were made.

I'm not convinced it has improved all that much, though, honestly.

Scar is carrying the commentary, basically.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

It sucked, because the FFA matches sucked (mostly), and trying to commentate FFA matches is so reactionary that no meaningful comments were made.

I'm not convinced it has improved all that much, though, honestly.

Scar is carrying the commentary, basically.

Well a carry is better than nothing. A lot of good commentary duos consist of a lead and a *ahem* "sidekick" if you will.

 

[infomon]

I know Nintendo said it was the same as the E3 demo, but aren't there different characters? I didn't see ZSS on the select screen and I don't remember Luigi, Sheik or Yoshi being playable.

Maybe I'm just thinking of the available characters in the Invitational, IDK.

At the E3/BestBuy demo, there were different characters in the Wii-U version than the 3DS version. The 3DS version had Shiek and ToonLink which were not available on the Wii-U. This is consistent with what we're seeing here.

IMO the E3 3DS version was definitely under-stated; everyone was hipe for the WiiU. But 3DS gave us some alternate insights into the game that I'm very glad we're seeing today! I hope we have 3DS tournaments alongside the WiiU because some of these stages (animal crossing island) look great for competitive play!

 

[Moose of the Law]

Can someone list what characters are at Top 8? The only ones I know are Cox's Bowser, a Toon Link, and Mendeas Shiek.

 

[Aninymouse]

GOOD GRACIOUS THAT AWAKENING SOUNDTRACK

beautiful

 

[RPGatWill]

Wow, Bowser destroyed Shiek badly there. Is Bowser too good now or did the Sheik just mess up too many times?

 

[pupNapoleon]

I'm only now tuning into the tournament!
IS there a thread here to discuss things such as

-did they have option to choose ANY character?
-any announcements, such as gameplay changes?
-what is the tournament style?

ETC

 

[infomon]

I think it's reeeeally difficult to comment on characters being "too good" vs "too bad" from a single match. It's very hard to know how much of a player's dominance is actually due to the character's strengths/weaknesses.

Maybe the Shiek was nervous, had bad timings and/or spacings on her moves, employed a strategy inappropriate for the Shiek-Bowser matchup, etc. But it seems like after the first kill she just started playing poorly. We saw Shiek vs Bowser on a much larger stage, and the Shiek was very capable of running away and needling all day. It could be a 90-10 matchup in Shiek's favour for all we know at this point.

And who knows what techniques or tactics exist in the game that we simply haven't discovered yet.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

The Toon Link player is using way too much Dair. Not really following up on Boomerang either.

 

[Aninymouse]

Larry's Bowser is a beautiful tornado of destruction. He's acclimating to the game rather well.

edit: wow that robe is beautiful.

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

I think it's reeeeally difficult to comment on characters being "too good" vs "too bad" from a single match. It's very hard to know how much of a player's dominance is actually due to the character's strengths/weaknesses.

Maybe the Shiek was nervous, had bad timings and/or spacings on her moves, employed a strategy inappropriate for the Shiek-Bowser matchup, etc. But it seems like after the first kill she just started playing poorly. We saw Shiek vs Bowser on a much larger stage, and the Shiek was very capable of running away and needling all day. It could be a 90-10 matchup in Shiek's favour for all we know at this point.

And who knows what techniques or tactics exist in the game that we simply haven't discovered yet.

It's definitely easy to detect stats though. For instance, look at the knockback Bowser has. That's way too noticeable to ignore. You can see how fluid is movements are and how powerful his grabs are. You can see Brawl's Bowser is nothing compared to Sm4sh Bowser. There's just too many people using him. I wanna see Marth, Mario, Link, etc. But I guess people felt most safe with Bowser.

 

[Moose of the Law]

Bowser vs Bowser in the grand finals of a Smash tournament. Wow.

 

[Exaggeratedhonesty]

Been watching this all day and it wasn't that bad... although I was drawing during most of it. lol. Also I'm surprised there isn't as much fighting on here as there is in the tourney.

 

[infomon]

Bowser vs Bowser: the new metagame. lol

OK bowser does look really amazing. But let's keep in mind that Bowser's also a relatively simple character to play. ToonLink and Sonic, for example, have always been more technical and awkward to play well unless you have had time to study the character.

 

[Exaggeratedhonesty]

Bowser vs Bowser: the new metagame. lol

OK bowser does look really amazing. But let's keep in mind that Bowser's also a relatively simple character to play. ToonLink and Sonic, for example, have always been more technical and awkward to play well unless you have had time to study the character.

Yeah I loved playing Toon Link but i can never do anything right with him intill i warmed up abit.

P.S. Damn listen to that crowd. lol I really wish i was there now. XD

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

Oh that shield break! Let's go Larry :D

 

[infomon]

My guess: tourney winner gets to play vs Bill who gets to use pacman. Maybe not tho

Edit: Hahaha I feel dumb

 

[Fireemblemfreak]

My guess: tourney winner gets to play vs Bill who gets to use pacman. Maybe not tho

I feel like Bowser seems easy to take out, but he's in the Grand Finals so I guess not xD

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

This has definitely turned into an underdog story

 

[Dark Emperor Hardin]

Bowser vs Bowser: the new metagame. lol

OK bowser does look really amazing. But let's keep in mind that Bowser's also a relatively simple character to play. ToonLink and Sonic, for example, have always been more technical and awkward to play well unless you have had time to study the character.

I always liked those "difficult to master" characters because though it might take time, you'll eventually understand their playstyle completely. There's no room to improve if you keep winning with Bowser using the same tactics.

 

[Exaggeratedhonesty]

LARRY LARRY LARRY LARRY LARRY LARRY!

 

[Kirbybrawl]

for those that have played the 3ds version, is it a hassle to view your % ? I'd prefer it on the top screen but i guess it would take up too much room

 

[Aninymouse]

Anybody else think 3DS Battlefield is more beautiful than WiiU Battlefield?

 

[Fireemblemfreak]

for those that have played the 3ds version, is it a hassle to view your % ? I'd prefer it on the top screen but i guess it would take up too much room

I've played Smash Run on it, and it wasn't that bad

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

So many "RIOT" posts...

Edit: My favourite is "where is my surprise?". Yes, because if you were expecting a newcomer reveal, then it is definitely a surprise one. -.-

 

[Aninymouse]

So many "RIOT" posts...

Edit: My favourite is "where is my surprise?". Yes, because if you were expecting a newcomer reveal, then it is definitely a surprise one. -.-

This is why you set realistic expectations for yourself.

 

[asia_catdog_blue]

So... that's it?

 

[Jaedrik]

This has definitely turned into an underdog story

Not at all. Larry losing from the first was purely luck, it's an FFA, what do you expect? He showed a dominant performance. I can't say this was 'underdog' at all.

So many "RIOT" posts...

Edit: My favourite is "where is my surprise?". Yes, because if you were expecting a newcomer reveal, then it is definitely a surprise one. -.-

I'm honestly surprised at all the people complaining that there's no reveal.

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

All I know is Larry's... pretty good

 

[L9999]

Bowser is the new Broken Knight. Also, NO CHARACTER REVEAL!

 

[infomon]

Spoiler alert: Ness is a secret character..... in smash64.

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

Bowser is the new Broken Knight. Also, NO CHARACTER REVEAL!

The amount of Bowser users has increased one-hundredfold this day...

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I wasn't expecting a character anyways. Dang, Bowser has been buffed a lot.

 

[SuperBoshi]

Will we have Bowser only, Final Destination ? Who knows!

 

[TheRage]

Did you guys see Larry's shield break? Ouch!

 

[RPGatWill]

Bowser has always been a bit scary since I'm not good against power players, but it looks like I'm going to have to be more careful than ever before.

 

[Silic0n]

I know Nintendo said it was the same as the E3 demo, but aren't there different characters? I didn't see ZSS on the select screen and I don't remember Luigi, Sheik or Yoshi being playable.

Maybe I'm just thinking of the available characters in the Invitational, IDK.

At E3, the characters available on the wii u differed from the ones on the 3ds. I'm pretty sure Sheik, Luigi, and Yoshi were only playable on the 3ds version.

 

[PingPongCop]

You mean his down-B? He always had an aerial up-B.

.... That's what he said... :/

 

[Berrial]

Bowser matches were the most interesting matches in my opinion.
The Grand Finals was so amazing.