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Official Muddy Mole (Mole Mania) For Brawl SUPPORT Thread

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This thread is for the support of Muddy the Mole from the EXTREMELY UNDERATED Game Boy game "Mole Mania"


Muddy, in all his Moleey glory


"Mole Mania" Cover

To all you Nintendo "fans" who never heard of this game, here is Wiki info

God! I mean said:
Muddy Mole-- One of the few letters Sakurai actually responded to concerned none other than this character! Sakurai actually really enjoyed Miyamoto's Mole Mania game, and remarked that he would love to implement Muddy in some shape or form. To add even more rumor milling, he added that "he's so interesting, he might be in the roster already!" ...makes you wonder.
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Underated but good game + great Character +Sakurai's interest = He has a pretty good chance to be in Brawl ;)

B- Bomb- Sort of like Yoshi's up B, but with a bomb. the bomb, however, goes foward, not at an angle. The more ylu hold, the farther the bomb will go and such.

Foward / Back B - Ball Roll-by DokturSea- Muddy whips up one o' dem black balls of his and rolls it in front of him. It does minor damage but has great knockback. It's excellent for knocking enemies into the air for some juggling. It will keep rolling for a few seconds before disappearing or falling off an edge. Muddy cannot use this again until the first one disappears

Up B- Ball Jump- Muddy pulls out the black ball, gets on it, and jump. This sends Muddy upwards, but sends the ball downwards with the force of Kirby's stone

down B- Dig-- Muddy spins around and digs a hole. And chaarcter in range of him spinning will get hurt. When he digs, if he is on a platform, he travels through the platform (like the Battlefield's platforms). If he is on gorund, he will stay in the hole for a while. When he is like this, he can not be hurt. after a whie (5 seconds?0, he jps out of the hole.

SUPER SMASH ATTACK- UNDECIDED! Taking in ideas ;)

STAGE- Jinbe's garden- There are to parts to this stage. the first is above ground and looks like a garden. Cabages grow there, and you can pick them up and hurl them, or breazk them open. The leaves would be food items. Ocasionally, one of Muddy's relatives will dig hole, and that's where the fun starts ;) . You can jump down the hole into the underground area ala Hyrule Temple's tunnel.

So, FlipTroopa, Lord_Deathborne, anyone else who cares for Muddy, feel free to help with his moves :)

So, post what you think!!
 
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First Post!

At any rate, I do support Muddy as he seems to be a most interesting addition to the mix. I'd actually prefer Muddy over Olimar as far as Miyamato-san's yet-to-be-represented creations are concerned.
 
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There is a problem with that picture of Muddy the Mole: his toe nails are missing. Which is one reason why I dislike FryGuy64's fan art.

These are the official artwork:











 
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I was thinking of a dig move my self, which is kind of a mesh between DK and Peach's vB. Like DK's Ground Slam, there is a slight delay before it executes; there is also a delay when finishing the attack. Muddy digs feverously, chucking ground chuncks at random trajectories, causing damage depending on the size. Occasionally he will dig up a random item, which has the same effect as a ground chunk until it lands on the ground - which then can be used. The disadvantage is that items dug up can be used by opponents if they're slick enough, though Muddy has the advantage since the ground chunks don't effect him.

Kinda crude, I know. I'll have to put more thought into it before I can really help out - and since I never really played the game, I don't know if it will be much... (though I am familiar with its mechanics)
Besides, the moveset you have up now is just fine.
 
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Firstly, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS TOPIC! :grin: I've been wanting to mention Muddy for a while now, and that topic I made was the first time I ever came out about it.

Mole Mania is a FUUNNN game. I remember when it was first released, and I was like "dude, that's crap." But when I actually bothered to play it, it was awesome.

Basically, it's a block-puzzle game, like Adventures of Lolo. But, since you're a mole, each stage has two levels: above and below ground! You push rocks around to find the way to the exit, and can attack enemies by charging up and hurling rocks over your shoulders to flatten them. There's also cabbages you can collect by pushing into the holes you dig. I guess, then, I should mention that... Muddy can dig anywhere there is softsoil, and the screen will change to underground. Here are other obstacles, but also hidden items and such (like healing potions, radar dishes, etc.), and you often have to dig under ground to surprise enemies or find the way through the maze. Funnily enough, while underground, Muddy can poke his nose up and look around without actually having to surface :p

Later on, you start getting bombs as well as rocks and cabbage, and some levels also give you special spike platforms (like the kangaroo boss stage) that you can use to hit falling or jumpy enemies.

The bad guy of the whole game is Jinbe(sp?), basically some random disgruntled farmer, and you have to fight him in minigames by digging as many holes as you can and grabbing all the cabbage before he kicks the crap out of you with his rake XD It's such an awesome game. The farmer carries off your wife and kids in a friggin burlap sack! XD

It did see an American release too, so it's one of those "yay, it was a world release" games that have pretty good likelihood of being selected. I remember it not being advertised a lot on TV, but pretty heavily in print and at stores.

And dude, hemightbegiant... that is like... my moveset to a "T." Creepy!
 
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How tall is this guy? I know size doesn't matter but would he need to be scaled bigger like Kirby and Pikachu or could they use his real height?
 
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hemightbegiant said:
That's what I mean, in reall life, he'd be pretty small, so they'd have to make him bigger. BTW: Kirby's only suppose to be 8 inches, but he's nearly half as tall as Link.
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That's because Sakurai wanted to see his creation entering the roster, because he created Kirby and the SSB franchise. Also, Kirby is now a popular franchise. And why is Kirby half as tall as Link? It must be because Kirby used his inhaling ability to supersize himself, or he's probably using his newest form.

MetaKnight: Kirby has now become......SMASH KIRBY!
 
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I'm still amazed that we had such similar movesets... XD

B: Mogu Claw [Mogu being mole in Japanese]-- Slashes with his claw, sorta like the Koopa Claw. He can grab people in midair with it too, even, and tosses them over his back.

Forward B: Cabbage-- Yanks something out of the ground: it's a head of cabbage! Works like Peach's vegetables, pretty much. But he tosses the cabbage in an arch unless it's smashed (in which case it goes straight ahead). Occassionally he'll pull up bombs, which work like Link's, or black stones, which work like the heads of a Hammer, and roll on the ground. Yeah, no kidding >.>

Up B: Drilling Claw-- Slashes upwards and "drills" into the air, dealing awesome combo damage as he rises about the height of a Super Jump Punch from Luigi. Can be angled, but only within 15 degrees of straight up.

Down B: Dig-- On the ground, he immediately motions to dig underneath. In the air, he starts to spin like his Drilling Claw, and heads towards the earth. When he is standing on a platform you can fall through, he... falls through :p Now, when Muddy digs, he leaves a trail of dirt behind on the surface, so the player can keep an eye on him. When he stays still, his nose pokes out too! But anyways... Muddy can only stay underground for 8 seconds at a time; after that, he pops up automatically, dazed. Also, he CAN dig out the side of a platform, so BE CAREFUL. It's a useful tool if you wanna get the hell off a floating platform (say dodge a grab, dig under, and run off the side onto the main floor?), but if you push it you can plummet to your doom (with only your second and third jumps to save you, of course >.>). If you press A or B, Muddy automatically pops up again, and, because there is little lag after popping up, you can segue into a quick shield or grab. How fun!
 
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Only video game characters can enter, not characters from non-video games. Have you been overplaying Kingdom Hearts titles? I'm not into Disney nor Final Fantasy at all.
 
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parrothead said:
Only video game characters can enter, not characters from non-video games. Have you been overplaying Kingdom Hearts titles? I'm not into Disney nor Final Fantasy at all.
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Bowserlick was joking but it was a pretty crappy joke.
 
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I am a fan of this idea, but not of hemightbegiant's move set. Blech. Lemme try and "improve it".

B - Bomb: I liked this idea, but I don't like how you said "Make it like Yoshi's Eggs". No, make it like Link's Arrows! Muddy pulls out a bomb and he can charged the throw. The longer you hold B, the farther it will go. The bomb doesn't bounce and explodes on impact, even if you catch it, making it even more lethal. >=)

Side B - Ball Roll: Muddy whips up one o' dem black balls of his and rolls it in front of him. It does minor damage but has great knockback. It's excellent for knocking enemies into the air for some juggling. It will keep rolling for a few seconds before disappearing or falling off an edge. Muddy cannot use this again until the first one disappears.

UpB - Thrust: A black ball appears under Muddy and he pushes himself off of it. It does minor damage if Muddy jumps into someone, but if done in the air, the ball will fall to the ground and do massive damage to anyone who' unfortunate enough to get in it's way.

Down B - Dig: Muddy jumps into the air, poins his head dowards, his arms extended above his head, and spins around like a drill. He then falls to the ground and does major damage to anyone below him. Also, he will spew out mud to his sides, minorly hurting anyone there, and he is invicible for a second until his pops back above ground.

I, personally, like it.
 
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He looks intresting and will proberly be in, his attacks would be unique and he would be an intresting character I picture him being Small, Strong, Slow with Average Jumps
 
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I have never played this game or seen Muddy Mole in action. But I did read an article about him in Wikipedia so I figure that is good enough to try to throw in a moveset.

A: Straight jab with clawed paw
AA: Straight jab followed by a pin wheel arm attack by opposite clawed paw
AAA: Straight jab followed by a pin wheel arm attack by opposite clawed paw followed by a pin wheel arm attack by the opposite clawed paw

Toward A: Leans arms back behind his body and swipes at oppenent with a clawed leg

Up A: Tosses a flashing bomb lightly above his head. Either explodes upon contact propeling oppenent upwards or gets knocked to the floor or back toward muddy where it explodes.

Down A: Slashes at the ground, sending a torrent of dust forward. Claw has knockback, dust cloud can do additional damage.

Smash A: Steps forward with one foot whose claws dig into the ground, bracing his body before he jabs out one clawed hand forward. If it connects the claws spin trapping the enmy for damage before launching him outwards in a straight path.

Down Up: Smashes claw into the ground and then lift it above his body and head in an arch leaving a wake of debris and rocks behind it similar to Samus's flamethrower up smash. Hits oppenent to the side.

Up Smash: Spins on his back with his clawed feet and arms pointing upwards, forming what seems like a drill of claws. Traps oppenent before launching him or her upwards

Dash A: When he hits A he descends into the earth as he is running, feet going first then hips as dirt flys for effect. Stops when only his head remains in which case he quickly pulls himself out of the floor. Knockback when the mole starts running into the ground. Hits oppenent in the opposite direction Muddy is traveling

Thats all for now.
 
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I still wanna know where that dude who mentioned "lol sakurai likes this character and jokes 'he might already be there hahahaha'" got his source... It was off NSiders, so you could assume "okay, FlipTroopa's a klutz who can't pick good sources," but the dude's a very very resputable member of the forums. Maybe I should bother to ask...
 
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DokturSea said:
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Side B - Ball Roll: Muddy whips up one o' dem black balls of his and rolls it in front of him. It does minor damage but has great knockback. It's excellent for knocking enemies into the air for some juggling. It will keep rolling for a few seconds before disappearing or falling off an edge. Muddy cannot use this again until the first one disappears.

I, personally, like it.
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I do too. This is the kind of constructive critisicm I like. I'll change it to this on the front page I'll give you credit too.
 
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Yeah, Muddy needs a +BUMP+

Anyway, I figure his stage could be a garden, but has two levels where one part is underground that is accesible via tunnel ala Hyrule temple.
 
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Can I get a bump up in NYEAR?

And yeah, a two-part stage for this guy would be awesome :D I'd envision something like Dig Dug's side view of the underground :p
 
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