Official item discussion

[GimmeAnFSharp]

This item is terribly annoying in Animal Crossing... well, not TERRIBLY. But in Wild World, there's atleast 1 new one in your town everyday that you might run over on accident... and when you dig them up, all you can do is either try to strategically place it so a villager falls into it, or throw it out... and getting a villager to perfectly walk over it can be a hassle.

I like its incorporation into the Smash universe, though- it has a rightful place and definitely has its strategic uses in multiple manners.

Question is- if the pitfall is on a platform that you normally can drop through, will the character drop through upon running over it rather than getting stuck?

 

[SuperAce]

This is why I'm scared. I'm starting to think we might end up with a Animal Crossing fighters. If they were customizable it might be "aight" but K.K. Slider just doesn't work for me.

 

[killbeast301]

Question is- if the pitfall is on a platform that you normally can drop through, will the character drop through upon running over it rather than getting stuck?

It seems that your character will get stuck on the underside of the platform, judging by bowser's pic.

 

[komickid]

This item could be dezastating on a stage like rumble falls.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Do you think the pitfall will affect your team mates as well? And I don't think it's that obvious whether the trap set on thin platforms will make you get stuck or fall through... fall through makes the most sense, but that's easily countered by just double jumping back onto the platform.

 

[chaos_Leader]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html

In the 15 second video, during the brief section on the bridge of Eldin stage there was a small keg, too small to be an item barrel, and it exploded when an attack hit it. Could this be some sort of gunpowder keg? and if so what game could it possibly be from?

 

[komickid]

The motion sensor bomb affects your teammates so i think the pitfall will too.

In the 15 sec clip i think that what you're reffering to is the stage hazard that blows up the bridge.

 

[smashmaniac16]

i think the 4 sword from zelda needs to be an item

 

[smash_fo_life]

tha items i reallly want r fludd from sunshine and that vaccum from luigis game

 

[killbeast301]

updated after 2 weeks

 

[Shritistrang]

I have some ideas... Okay, I already put them in another thread, but that was before I knew that there was an official item thread (silly me...) :embarrass

Okay, here they are:

Cape Feather: Gives you a cape that allows you to slowly float to the ground after jumping/falling, by holding the jump button. (Super Mario)

Note Block: Wherever it's thrown, it will stay for a while, either in the air or at the ground. It will act as a stationary trampoline.

Bowser Shell: Like a normal green shell, but much bigger! (Mario Kart)

Magic Dust: Sprinkle it over an opponent to turn him into a harmless blob creature for several seconds. Can still jump and walk, but not attack or double jump. (Zelda)

Gust Jar: Used to suck opponents and/or items to you that are far away. (Zelda)

Ice Spreader: A gun that has only 3 shots, creates a huge field of ice upon impact. Everyone who is close by at that moment will be frozen. The surrounding ground will be slippery for a while. (Metroid)

Wave Beam: A gun that can shoot through walls and electrifies the enemy. (Metroid)

Nugget: Gives you a big amount of special points once you collect it. (Pokemon)

Poke Flute: One-use item. Use it and all opponents are forced to dance for a short while. (they can't do anything else) (Pokemon)

Lock-On Gun: Charge it to lock on to an enemy and release to fire a homing shot. (Starfox)

Nova Bomb: Thrown item, only explodes when it hits an opponent. Huge blast radius! (Starfox)

Warp Creatue (don't remember their name): Two of them appear at once. Once activated, you can warp between them anytime. (Yoshi's Story)

Metal Barrel: You can throw it and it bounces off walls. When it's rolling back to you, you can jump on to ride on it. (DK Country)

Tire: You can roll it around and use it as a trampoline. The enemy can use it as well. (DK Country)

Mike: You can yell into the mike up to three times, and every time you do it, the opponents that are close by are hurt and thrown back by the sound. (Kirby)

Yoyo: Allows you to attack with a long-rage yoyo for a while (Kirby, Earthbound)

Eggplant Wizard's Wand: Fires eggplants in an arc that turns the opponent into an eggplant creature for a short while (similar to Magic Dust, but as a long-range projectile) (Kid Icarus)

What do you say?

 

[killbeast301]

Someone listened to me!

I like all your ideas, except I think the nova bomb should also be detonated by pressing A again.

 

[gamstog]

I have some ideas... Okay, I already put them in another thread, but that was before I knew that there was an official item thread (silly me...) :embarrass

Okay, here they are:

Cape Feather: Gives you a cape that allows you to slowly float to the ground after jumping/falling, by holding the jump button. (Super Mario)

Note Block: Wherever it's thrown, it will stay for a while, either in the air or at the ground. It will act as a stationary trampoline.

Bowser Shell: Like a normal green shell, but much bigger! (Mario Kart)

Magic Dust: Sprinkle it over an opponent to turn him into a harmless blob creature for several seconds. Can still jump and walk, but not attack or double jump. (Zelda)

Gust Jar: Used to suck opponents and/or items to you that are far away. (Zelda)

Ice Spreader: A gun that has only 3 shots, creates a huge field of ice upon impact. Everyone who is close by at that moment will be frozen. The surrounding ground will be slippery for a while. (Metroid)

Wave Beam: A gun that can shoot through walls and electrifies the enemy. (Metroid)

Nugget: Gives you a big amount of special points once you collect it. (Pokemon)

Poke Flute: One-use item. Use it and all opponents are forced to dance for a short while. (they can't do anything else) (Pokemon)

Lock-On Gun: Charge it to lock on to an enemy and release to fire a homing shot. (Starfox)

Nova Bomb: Thrown item, only explodes when it hits an opponent. Huge blast radius! (Starfox)

Warp Creatue (don't remember their name): Two of them appear at once. Once activated, you can warp between them anytime. (Yoshi's Story)

Metal Barrel: You can throw it and it bounces off walls. When it's rolling back to you, you can jump on to ride on it. (DK Country)

Tire: You can roll it around and use it as a trampoline. The enemy can use it as well. (DK Country)

Mike: You can yell into the mike up to three times, and every time you do it, the opponents that are close by are hurt and thrown back by the sound. (Kirby)

Yoyo: Allows you to attack with a long-rage yoyo for a while (Kirby, Earthbound)

Eggplant Wizard's Wand: Fires eggplants in an arc that turns the opponent into an eggplant creature for a short while (similar to Magic Dust, but as a long-range projectile) (Kid Icarus)

What do you say?

alot of these items would be awesome but take the baseball bat for example it is so strong(with the one hit kill) that the game just doesn't spawn it anywhere near what i would like it to when other less brutal items are on so how would these items fit in to all that with the nova bomb for example it sounds like a bob-omb but combined with the motion sensor mine these two items alone are both potent killing devices so how fair would it be to have a nova bob-omb that essentially does the combination of both these items

 

[vesperview]

I hope Mr. Saturn returns, and that they put better pokemons in the pokeballs cause in Melee they only the very big ones were useful and almost never appeared.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

i want to be able to see hitmonlee back when i was a kid i just laughed for like 3 minutes with my friend when he came out and wobufett too.

 

[killbeast301]

alot of these items would be awesome but take the baseball bat for example it is so strong(with the one hit kill) that the game just doesn't spawn it anywhere near what i would like it to when other less brutal items are on so how would these items fit in to all that with the nova bomb for example it sounds like a bob-omb but combined with the motion sensor mine these two items alone are both potent killing devices so how fair would it be to have a nova bob-omb that essentially does the combination of both these items

Learn to use punctuation so people can understand you.

 

[specialsauce]

im lookin forward to seeing items that are closley related to diffrent series like the franklin badge or if sonicss in it they could have one of those springy things as an item etc

 

[killbeast301]

SPRINGY!!!!!!!! That could work well, but the bumper might cover it.

 

[Shritistrang]

Other Sonic items that I can see include the Turbo Sneakers, the Bubble Shield (protects from one hit) and the Omochao Gun from Shadow the Hedgehog.

Cheese the Chao, however, would maike a nice Assist Trophy! ^^

But this is not the thread for that, sorry...

 

[killbeast301]

I like the bubble sheild, the others, not so much. You can discuss assist trophies here

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Items add a sort of chaotic element to the game that I think is necessary. Dealing with changing events is a part of skill...yet professional players refuse to add chaotic elements because they seemingly can't handle changing events. One reason I don't like professional gamers who seem to like only order to be able to play at their best...

 

[Grovel]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not but who else thinks some kind of reverse item would be cool. What I mean by that is when hit by it all controls do the opposite.

 

[Shritistrang]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not but who else thinks some kind of reverse item would be cool. What I mean by that is when hit by hit all controls do the opposite.

Ah, just like the pink fog in Donkey Kong Country does, the same one K.Rool fires from his gun in the battle in DKC2.

 

[Scar]

Items add a sort of chaotic element to the game that I think is necessary. Dealing with changing events is a part of skill...yet professional players refuse to add chaotic elements because they seemingly can't handle changing events. One reason I don't like professional gamers who seem to like only order to be able to play at their best...

Scenario: An exciting match between two players of nearly equal skill. Both are at 2 stock 0%. Player A has practiced very hard as of late and shows it.

He performs a would-be 0-death combo, but the last hit is on top of a Bob-bomb, killing both players.

Before they respawn, a hammer appears directly underneath player B's platform.

They drop down, he picks it up and enjoys control of the entire stage while A is forced to edgehog stall.

When B wins this fictional match, did he deserve to? Could player A have forseen that Bob-bomb and stopped in the middle of an amazing combo? Could he have planned better and picked the other controller ports so he would have gotten the hammer first?

These don't have to do with skill, they have to do with luck. So it's not so much that we hate chaos, it's that we love to make matches as fair as possible.

 

[killbeast301]

Scenario: An exciting match between two players of nearly equal skill. Both are at 2 stock 0%. Player A has practiced very hard as of late and shows it.

He performs a would-be 0-death combo, but the last hit is on top of a Bob-bomb, killing both players.

this is a problem, but it should be fairly easy to make sure that all items spawn away from characters

Before they respawn, a hammer appears directly underneath player B's platform.

They drop down, he picks it up and enjoys control of the entire stage while A is forced to edgehog stall.

The hammer? please. sheild grab him, toss up, and juggle him off the edge from where he can't return because he has no second jump and no recovery move with the hammer.

When B wins this fictional match, did he deserve to? Could player A have forseen that Bob-bomb and stopped in the middle of an amazing combo? Could he have planned better and picked the other controller ports so he would have gotten the hammer first?

These don't have to do with skill, they have to do with luck. So it's not so much that we hate chaos, it's that we love to make matches as fair as possible.

Appart from blowing yourself up from a bob-omb apearing in front of an attack, items require skill.

 

[Shritistrang]

I think both of you are right, to an extent. You are in luck when the item that would give you an advantage appears... especially if it appears near you. But to use several of the items effectively, you need skill.

I like items and I always play with them, except for a few ones like the Cloaking Device, or the Red Shell.

It's just a matter of preference.

 

[~N9NE~]

RAMBI needs to be an AT!!!

 

[Croco]

Here are some of my ideas (I have more but I am limited with only 21 images)-

• Thunderbolt
  
  
  Everyone except the user is shrunken down in size.
• Fake Item Box
  
  
  Once tossed out.. it floats mid air for a long period of time until touched.
• Cape Feather
  
  
  User grows a raccoon tail. It allows them to float back on to the stage like Peach.
• Blue Shell
  
  
  The shell seeks out the winning the player. If blocked, the shell bounces off and goes to the 2nd winning character.. and so on. Every block the shell goes faster and faster and will deal more and more damage.
• Crystal Ball
  
  
  Pointless throwable item.
• Magic Potion
  
• POW Block
  
  
  Players on the ground are damaged when this item touches the ground or wall.
• Bull Pot
  
  
  Players wear a viking helmet which deals damage if touched.
• Dragon Pot
  
  
  Players wear a dragon hat which spits small stream of fire.
• Carrot
  
  
  Players grow bunny ears which allow them to float back on to the stage.
• Hammer Suit
  
  
  Players wear a black helmet and can throw hammers just like the hammer bros.
• Goomba's Shoe
  
  
  Players wear a giant shoe which covers 70-80% of their body. The shoe works just like the hammer.. but it only deals damage if a player can stomp on a enemy.
• Music Box
  
  
  Puts enemies to sleep for a brief period of time.
• P-Wing
  
  
  Allows players to float back to stage.
• Stop Watch
  
  
  Slows down time or stops time for a brief period.
• Chuckola Cola
  
  
  Refills 15% of health
• FLUDD
  
  
  Players strap the FLUDD and can shoot water in 180 degrees.
• Yoshi's Cookies
  
  
  Heals 25% of health.

 

[killbeast301]

Explanations? A name and a picture aren't that helpful

 

[Croco]

Explanations? A name and a picture aren't that helpful

there you go..

 

[Noshiee]

Mario Sunshine's paint bruch could be an item, you can hit people with it, but you also release some paint with it, making the floor slippery (spelling?) and the characters that walk on it or are hit by a the paint, get slower for sometime. Though, I rather see Bowser Jr. with it.

 

[Leobenmc]

Croco - your ideas for items are incredible, especially the Blue Shell, Thunderbolt and POW Block. If Sakurai was ever going to read these forums for important additions to Brawl, I hope he reads your post first and last.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

hey not sure if this was already discussed, but Kirby's Final Smash i believe is already confirmed, if not semi-confirmed. if u notice, every time a character grabs a SmashBall, they have this golden fire aura thing around them. just saying cuz its not in the beginning post...

EDIT: oh yea n Pit's Army of Palutena isnt there

 

[Davy Jones]

I have an idea for sime items:
Voodoo Doll-Might look like a simply doll,but whan thrown in enemies,it curses them.A Voodoo Doll and a nail should appear over the cursed's head,and whenever the nail stings the doll,the character should take 10 dmg and his B-Move should be instatnly stopped(Up+B,Smash+B,all)The Curse Lasts 60 Seconds.
Reverse Mushroom(Online Only)-Can be thrown.Inverses the hit's controll stick.
Brocken Metal Block-Makes your Character's legs of metal.Ussles for atack,but halves your jump hight.
Power Glowes-Whan Grabbed,Character should equipt some gloves and its atack speed should be greatly increased for 45 seconds.

 

[killbeast301]

Updated (ten)

 

[Davy Jones]

Updated (ten)

What do u mean?

 

[shortwanabelaker]

from the pictures of munchlax i'll take it fireflower is confirmed?

 

[jambre]

lips's stick*

fire flower was confirmed at the time of spicy curry

 

[KidSmash]

Lipstick confirmed

 

[killbeast301]

What do u mean?

I mean I edited the first post to include munchlax, and the (ten) is because of the 10 letter minimum.