Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize

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In a stunning surprise, the Nobel Committee announced Friday that it had awarded its annual peace prize to President Obama “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” less than nine months after he took office.

“He has created a new international climate,” the committee said in its announcement. With American forces deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, President Obama’s name had not figured in speculation about the winner until minutes before the prize was announced here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/world/10nobel.html?_r=1

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009

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My reaction: LOL

 

[Kantō]

why? why? why?

 

[D13]

Apparently Obama is as shocked as everyone else.

He also said something along the lines of "I don't want to be compared to the great people who have received this award. I draw inspiration from them etc"

Edit- his exact words

“To be honest,” the president said “I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who have been honored by this prize, men and women who’ve inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.”

 

[UberMario]

I think one (or more) of the judges was biased, it doesn't make sense why he would get the prize, IF YOU NEED TO BE ENTERED IN FEBRUARY.

Still doesn't make sense even if he was entered yesterday.

And the commitee outright LIED, he's pretty much done nothing to help "strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

Ridiculous.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

He hasn't done anything yet why did he get it? (no offense to Obama)

 

[CRASHiC]

Compare the USA and the Russia releations pre and post Obama. Here we see the biggest sign of what they are talking about. Russia and the USA have always been constantly at odds, but now, we have reached a compromise, and are now teamed together in taking diplomatic (and not millitary) action against the furtherment of any Nuclear Missile program. Then we can look at the other changes, such as the Cuba vs. UN, where the UN has ended its sanctions and welcomed by Cuba to the UN. What we see here is a growing trend of compromise, according to the Nobel Peace Prize, this is in result from Obama stressing the need for global unity in this time of global sturggle. This is their reasoning, that he has effected and changed the way international disputes have been handled, and for the better. That is how they see it.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Compare the USA and the Russia releations pre and post Obama. Here we see the biggest sign of what they are talking about. Russia and the USA have always been constantly at odds, but now, we have reached a compromise, and are now teamed together in taking diplomatic (and not millitary) action against the furtherment of any Nuclear Missile program. Then we can look at the other changes, such as the Cuba vs. UN, where the UN has ended its sanctions and welcomed by Cuba to the UN. What we see here is a growing trend of compromise, according to the Nobel Peace Prize, this is in result from Obama stressing the need for global unity in this time of global sturggle. This is their reasoning, that he has effected and changed the way international disputes have been handled, and for the better. That is how they see it.

not really the conflict between US and Russia have been good ever sense Reagen. And all Obama said was we need world peace, Just because he's president doesn't mean that he's any different than everyone else who's said that. I think the prize should be earned not just a give away because America got a black president.

 

[CRASHiC]

not really the conflict between US and Russia have been good ever sense Reagen.

Yes, I'm sure they enjoyed us bankrupting their country. Don't be blind, just last year there was a huge crisis that the Russian government claimed was caused in part by US interference in the country, instilling western beliefs in the country. It was a short war, but it happened none the less, and lets not forget the anti-missile crises we also had last year.

And all Obama said was we need world peace, Just because he's president doesn't mean that he's any different than everyone else who's said that.

No, Obama has shown through his diplomatic actions more than any former president his want for peace, thus the removal of the antimissile program near Russia, and the diplomatic releations with North Korea. When you compare the number of eneimes we had pre Obama and post Obama, you see an obvious shift.

 

[Mr.Freeman]

He's already the Prez of the U.S. But at least he was modest about it

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Yes, I'm sure they enjoyed us bankrupting their country. Don't be blind, just last year there was a huge crisis that the Russian government claimed was caused in part by US interference in the country, instilling western beliefs in the country. It was a short war, but it happened none the less, and lets not forget the anti-missile crises we also had last year.



No, Obama has shown through his diplomatic actions more than any former president his want for peace, thus the removal of the antimissile program near Russia, and the diplomatic releations with North Korea. When you compare the number of enemies we had pre Obama and post Obama, you see an obvious shift.

Not much of a shift as I remember North Korea still hates us and wont stop making nuclear missiles. and as for the war in Georgia that wasn't much of a crisis to be even acknowledged.

 

[ru5514n]

Yeah, believe it's a little too early for a Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe if Obama would have a successful term as Prez., then it would be appropriate.

 

[CRASHiC]

Not much of a shift as I remember North Korea still hates us and wont stop making nuclear missiles. and as for the war in Georgia that wasn't much of a crisis to be even acknowledged.

They have agreed to release some of their prisoners that are American.
They have accepted our diplomatic advances.
They have allowed our press to accompany our North Korean ambassador.
Would this have been done 2, 3 years ago? No chance on earth.
Also, how was it not a crises? People were killed an injured, a small war was waged, simply because we are not hurt directly does not make it a crises. Regardless, they cited "American propaganda" in the image the war received globally.

 

[ru5514n]

Not much of a shift as I remember North Korea still hates us and wont stop making nuclear missiles. and as for the war in Georgia that wasn't much of a crisis to be even acknowledged.

Now there's also the issue with Iran. Should Obama handle it well, then perhaps it will indicate that he deserves the award.

 

[CRASHiC]

Now there's also the issue with Iran. Should Obama handle it well, then perhaps it will indicate that he deserves the award.

Iran has been an issue since The Shah was overthrown, mostly because it is widely in Iran believed that we put the Shah is power. The Iran problem is nothing new, and has been the center of attention since our involvement with the middle east has stepped up these past 8 years. The Iranian revolution is largely accredited with destroying the image of Jimmy Carter and causing him to lose the presidency.

 

[Doromac]

Bottom line is that he doesn't deserve it.

 

[CRASHiC]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33240046/ns/politics-white_house/

As it turns out, the committee admits to simply doing this in order to force Obama to continue such actions that he has already started.
From their standpoint, its a very smart political move, pushing for peace, forcing the White House to work harder on its goals, trying to convince the world to jump on board with these attempts at true global changes toward peace. Weather or not this is successful move on their part, that is yet to be seen.
Oddly enough, most of the outcry from this has come from our allies, while those who oppose us for the most part have applauded Obama on his award, such as the Iran president congratulating him and hoping to continue diplomatic relations with the country and push harder towards compromise.
We could take this as a sign of progress already, though I have my own opinion on what it will take for their to be peace in the middle easy, and oddly enough it happens to be indirectly linked with another one of Obama's missions.

 

[Fuelbi]

Foolish Russians. Do they not know we fight for peace now? War is too overated

 

[CRASHiC]

I did some research, as it turns out, the kind of award that Obama has recieved is for exactly what he is doing. Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace.

As you see here, there is no conflict with him winning the award at all.

 

[GreenKirby]

^That still doesn't stop a bunch of idiots thinking he did NOTHING during his nine months in office.

And it definitely won't stop ultraconservatives from saying quasi-bigoted statements referring to this issue in the first place

 

[CRASHiC]

^That still doesn't stop a bunch of idiots thinking he did NOTHING during his nine months in office.

An example of how great politicians Republicans arereally, they are the masters at Bull****)

Obama is BIG GOVERNMENT, making government do EVERYTHING
Obama hasn't done ANYTHING

Both are used against Obama. Which one is it?

Meanwhile, the democrats are laughing off these claims, not responding to them whatsoever. Its like the Democrats think that people will just know that they do the right thing, and that's good enough. Democrats are smart people, but god **** are they horrible politicians. Obama is the first good bull **** spinner I've seen on the democratic side.

 

[Neo Exdeath]

He doesn't deserve this. I'm a liberal, but even I ask what he has done to deserve this. Roosevelt and Wilson also won this while they were in office, but Wilson made the precursor to the UN and Roosevelt kept peace around the world. Obama.... what has he done?

Also, in before shade613.

 

[tmw_redcell]

The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. It's been awarded to terrorists and war criminals for making self-interested attempts at peace. It's like Time Magazine's Person of the Year award. There are plenty people more deserving of the award, and the award being given to someone lesser-known would help their cause a lot more. Obama doesn't need publicity or a million dollars.

 

[CRASHiC]

It's been awarded to terrorists and war criminals for making self-interested attempts at peace.

One man's terrorist is another man's martyr. Think of how the Iranians felt when we evaded both Afghanistan and Iraq. To them, having a seemingly hostile nation on both of their boarders was a very threatening experience. To them, we are war criminals.
Please name a single person who has worked towards peace with North Korea, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan or equal progress.

 

[Strong Badam]

option 1: complain that obama doesn't deserve it.
option 2: not give a **** and discuss something that actually matters.

imma have to go w/ option 2 guys

 

[Neo Exdeath]

option 1: complain that obama doesn't deserve it.
option 2: not give a **** and discuss something that actually matters.

imma have to go w/ option 2 guys

Do you know what the word "debating" means?

Or perhaps the word "politics"?

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

I laughed at the fact of when they announced it on a local radiostation, the announcement afterwards was about Obama being in a meeting to discuss deploying troops to Afganistan.
Thats very peaceful amirite?

 

[CRASHiC]

I laughed at the fact of when they announced it on a local radiostation, the announcement afterwards was about Obama being in a meeting to discuss deploying troops to Afganistan.
Thats very peaceful amirite?

HOLD IT

Listen, the Iraq war had no justification and I was against it from the beginning, but our efforts in Afghanistan are not only justified, but necessary, since the reason the country is so riddled with chaos is in part our fault based on a lack of necessary follow up actions after we drived the Soviets out of Afghanistan.

 

[Darkslash]

I laughed at the fact of when they announced it on a local radiostation, the announcement afterwards was about Obama being in a meeting to discuss deploying troops to Afganistan.
Thats very peaceful amirite?

Deploying troops does not mean that "LOLWAR". From my understanding it's for enforcement. It's why the League of Nations failed, lack of enforcement caused WWII to occur.

I mean if they sent like tripple to troops to afghanistan, then we have a problem.

 

[qianwen]

“He has created a new international climate,” President Obama’s name had not figured in speculation about the winner until minutes before the prize was announced here

that's how he won the Nobel Peace Price

 

[CRASHiC]

that's how he won the Nobel Peace Price

According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

this fits the work Obama has done with Russia on disarmament and building better relations, the continued work towards better relations with North Korea and disarmament from them as well, as well as the attempts towards peace between Isreali and its neighbors, the fight to stabilize Afghanistan, the attempts towards better relations with Pakistan, and the movements toward diplomatic relations with Iran and disarmament on their part as well, oh, and Cuba.

that enough for you?

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Barack Obama has indeed reached out a peaceful hand to the Middle East.
I say it's alright for him to win it, especially because of the other points that CRASHiC stated.

But seriously, if people disagree and make a big controversy about it, nothing good will prevail.

 

[Kill SizZLe]

This would've made sense had it been awarded 2 years from now. You know.....when we actually actually achieve peace. At least hopefully.

 

[CRASHiC]

This would've made sense had it been awarded 2 years from now. You know.....when we actually actually achieve peace. At least hopefully.

EXCEPT, this award isn't made for that. Its to show support for those working towards peace.
Its mostly a political move on their part to be honest, to pressure the USA to continue peaceful relations with countries like Iran. Its been done in the past and this is no different. Its been done before in the past, and this is no different.

 

[Mota]

Obama is overrated, I guess he kinds of deserves it.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

True Obama has made some political advancements but does this truly mean he should receive this award? Some people dedicate all their lives to service and are more deserving than a man who just came into power about 9 moths ago and just won because of the sake of change.

 

[1048576]

Can both sides agree that there are probably people who were nominated that had worked harder and achieved greater progress in the area of peace than president Obama, and that Obama has made several positive strides toward achieving peace since he took office?

 

[5ive]

CRASHiC ***** all of you.

 

[POKE40]

I love how Obama was didn't really want, probably a better word "anticipated", the reward in the first place.

This reward is going to end up pressuring him even more.
Poor guy.

 

[Peeze]

Kind of a side note, can fictional characters be nominated for a Nobel peace prize? Cuz i think Captain planet should definitely be considered.

 

[CRASHiC]

Kind of a side note, can fictional characters be nominated for a Nobel peace prize? Cuz i think Captain planet should definitely be considered.

No, but those who made the prize can be given one the artist nobel peace prize awards for bringing up the issue of pollution among the other issues the show discussed.