Oasis Mafia - Over!

[ranmaru]

Pythag Curious what your updated reads list is now.

 

[BoomFrog]

Alright, do you agree with lasers read of the situation? If not, where? If yes, they why not explain it before laser?

 

[Z25]

his responses have this weird tone to them that bothers me
but if he is Exlight then I am not currently worried about him

what exactly is jarringly out of place in terms of voting one of my wolf reads?
this is what I mean
all of you play 20 questions, and half the questions are ****ing stupid

lmao that post links to 3 other posts that I have to go read, and if they solely exist for you to read me
then its not worth my time

Why does the claim Ex matter to you?

And honestly that last part is just lazy behavior that isn’t helping you one way or another.

Seconded. Pythag Z25 if the lynch does come down to between me and Ninja and you have the deciding vote, what's your choice?

Today, Ninja I’ve been saying that. I’m not voting so he can be be bussed and we end the day early. I’ll vote in the last few hours most likely.

Tomorrow I’m looking at you for a better opinion, and then UP or Maven are good candidates imo for a lynch atm.

@Maven89
Z25
now its your turn to do something

Well you remembered my username right lol. And I’ve said it multiple times in this thread but my answer is right above.

you need to kill me today then, because you won't be able to kill me tomorrow given my role
just a tip

This is a bold as hell claim. One I can’t see Town necessarily make. Gives off WIFOM vibes.

It’s like saying “If you kill me you’ll be sorry!”

 

[ranmaru]

Z has been clear about that.

 

[ranmaru]

It is also important to wait for Maven and UP as they have been prodded.

 

[Z25]

I am closing the thread now my vote is locked
I also already said this before, but I'll say it again
You will not be able to Lynch me tomorrow, so even if you believe Ninja's alignment defines my alignment, I will use my free phase day 2 to do absolutely nothing

So good luck, I've already put more than enough effort into a game that I wanted to sideline anyways

If your making a claim like this I honestly think you should elaborate as if your town, saying something like this is likely to make you a target by scum.

 

[Sabrar]

Alright, do you agree with lasers read of the situation? If not, where? If yes, they why not explain it before laser?

I don't disagree with it but it's also not something that stuck into my mind hard enough for me to remember. Now that LG brought it up I can recall at least one game where you insisted on not doing an easy lynch (same that we lost to cemper). But IIRC your argument that time wasn't about a town-slip you found, it was more on the line of 'this is too easy'.

 

[ranmaru]

Pythag Why have you been absent? Are you having trouble formulating reads?

 

[ranmaru]

Pythag moves down in my town list below Laser.

 

[3DSNinja]

You do realize he could just be inactive? It is the weekend, he could be busy. You shouldn't move him down just yet, he may have a reason as to why he's gone.
also ranmaru inactive doesn't equal scum, in reality it probably means townie as a scum will be far more active because their role requires a lot more then a normal townje

 

[3DSNinja]

Saying inactive are suspicious for being inactive is imo a bad idea, as generally they just don't have a role from my experience. a mafia will be super active in the voting discussion to get townies ever and keep suspicion of themselves. It's why I am not that suspicious of Maven; he's probably just a townie that's inactive because he doesn't have a role and has things to do in real life that aren't Mafia

 

[ranmaru]

I am moving him down for not responding to queries and seeming to have trouble formulating reads. He posted recently. Scum can be inactive too, actually.

 

[3DSNinja]

But that's just me.
And I know I'm getting exed, so might as well give some of my views now.
alright, I'm not really suspicious of any one besides BoomFrog and Wiisp for the vote without any reasoning

 

[3DSNinja]

and yes ranmaru, scum CAN be inactive, it's just less likely then a townie being inactive because they are more important and want to always be ready to defend themselves and get townies exed.

 

[3DSNinja]

I was simply asking you to give more reasoning then just he's inactive, and you have a specific reason as to why his inactivity bothered you. So thanks for the more complete reasoning.

 

[3DSNinja]

Having reasoning for being suspicious is key, and it's often a scum who will say he's inactive and just that to vote up someond. you providing reasoning is make me more and more certain of your townieness.

 

[3DSNinja]

And hey, unlike Wiisp and Boom you provided a reason to be suspicious of Pythag. which make you probably more trustworthy then them

 

[ranmaru]

Ninja, I would like to see your final reads list. Give reasoning.

 

[3DSNinja]

Alright, here's my reads list part 1 on the people In sure are town/scum.
Town:
Ranmaru: He provides reasoning for his actions and is pushing everyone to give reasons,evidently trying to catch a scum because they wouldn't have much reasonign. He doesn't resort to typical things like inactive equals scum, he explains WHY this particular incident of inactivity is suspicious, which ISN'T a mafia thing in the slightest. he's honestly just trying to find suck and lead town, which is a hard thing to do.
Sabrar: He also provided reasoning for his actions and is evidently on the same side as Ran, a clear townie.
Z25: He's evidently been thinking things through and wants to get discussion going before he definitely makes a vote which from my experience is a town behavior; he also has shown gradual change in his views and hasn't switched on a dime lkikr Boom or Wiisp.

Scum:
Wiisp: He hasn't provided reasoning for his recent actions and has been trying to start bandwagons with no reasoning as to why he voted those people to bandwagon. This is sick behavior, as bandwagons are generally an anti-town thing, and explicitly trying to start them is very clearly a sick thing.
Boom: His actions point to just trying to go against the crowd, which is already suspicious enough, but he also has been jumping on Wiisp's bandwagon and has also been switching views and votes constantly, which ISN'T a townie thing to do unless you have reason I g like Ran.

 

[Wiisp]

The hell do y'all know about anti-town lol

 

[3DSNinja]

Sure, I haven't been playing that well, doesn't mean I can't point out behavior that seems anti-town

 

[Z25]

You do realize he could just be inactive? It is the weekend, he could be busy. You shouldn't move him down just yet, he may have a reason as to why he's gone.
also ranmaru inactive doesn't equal scum, in reality it probably means townie as a scum will be far more active because their role requires a lot more then a normal townje

There’s usually statistically at least one less active or inactive scum in games and one more productive.

If the team is that of 3 one of them being inactive would make a decent amount of sense imo.

Obviously not every inactive will be scum, but usually at least one is. But more then just inactivity should be used as reasons why someone is scum, which each of the inscribed currently have.

 

[Wiisp]

Jackrito
at least if this is Easter Mafia 2.0 I can get this out of the game day 1
thank god honestly

 

[3DSNinja]

There’s usually statistically at least one less active or inactive scum in games and one more productive.

If the team is that of 3 one of them being inactive would make a decent amount of sense imo.

Obviously not every inactive will be scum, but usually at least one is. But more then just inactivity should be used as reasons why someone is scum, which each of the inscribed currently have.

that's what I was trying to say. Ya can't just say someones inactive and that's the only reason, unless like in pythags' case their inactivity is obviously to hide something.

 

[ranmaru]

I'll be taking a break from thread, going to watch some anime and eat.

 

[Pythag]

Pythag Why have you been absent? Are you having trouble formulating reads?

I know man, I'm sorry. I got a Valorant beta key I've been playing that a lot. Like a lot a lot.

Updated reads currently, though it's a little mushy, because like ran suggested, I'm having trouble.

Town
Ran - pretty obv to me
Z25 - I've chased this rabbit down, and I'm feeling better about the slot.
Boom - I feel pretty good about this slot actually. I like his argumentation, and thoughts
Wiisp - he's funny, I don't totally understand his aversion to being read D1, nor do I understand his abject desire to not even touch Jack on D1

Where things get murkier :
3DS - noob town or scum? idk, there's a lot more
Sab - due to flavor claims I really don't know what to do with this slot.

Up - has gone down due to lack of activity. Ran made a good point of "he's cleared town and now not showing up"
Maven - also not even close to being here.
Jack - I feel like he's been doing exactly what he's been calling me scummy for.

 

[3DSNinja]

so he finally arrives.
Well, I still am suspicious of Boom and Wiisp, but I can kinda see why you would think they are town.

 

[Wiisp]

3DSNinja
when are you going to claim?

 

[3DSNinja]

I claimed townie a while ago, but whatever.
I'm a townie in a neighborhood with Laser and Z25

 

[Wiisp]

ohh I had a derp moment
rip

 

[Sabrar]

Boom - I feel pretty good about this slot actually. I like his argumentation, and thoughts
Wiisp - he's funny, I don't totally understand his aversion to being read D1, nor do I understand his abject desire to not even touch Jack on D1

Well, I still am suspicious of Boom and Wiisp, but I can kinda see why you would think they are town.

3DSNinja : what details did Pythag provide about his reads on Boom and Wiisp that you 'kinda see' his point? Let's take Wiisp for example, Pythag mentions 3 points, 2 that he doesn't understand and the third that he's funny. How does that equal a townie read in your opinion that you are able to see?

 

[Wiisp]

Jackrito
I really hope you are town

 

[Jackrito]

I know man, I'm sorry. I got a Valorant beta key I've been playing that a lot. Like a lot a lot.

Updated reads currently, though it's a little mushy, because like ran suggested, I'm having trouble.

Town
Ran - pretty obv to me
Z25 - I've chased this rabbit down, and I'm feeling better about the slot.
Boom - I feel pretty good about this slot actually. I like his argumentation, and thoughts
Wiisp - he's funny, I don't totally understand his aversion to being read D1, nor do I understand his abject desire to not even touch Jack on D1

Where things get murkier :
3DS - noob town or scum? idk, there's a lot more
Sab - due to flavor claims I really don't know what to do with this slot.

Up - has gone down due to lack of activity. Ran made a good point of "he's cleared town and now not showing up"
Maven - also not even close to being here.
Jack - I feel like he's been doing exactly what he's been calling me scummy for.

Perhaps I have but I know my own playstyle and am also a hypocrite. Also when half the game scum reads me not much point in making any outlandish cases that will be ignored, not that is my thing anyway. As I said before I see myself as a more of a support role then an town leader. We have enough of that with Ranmaru and Sab anyway. I also much perfer the late game once I have info to work with.

Anyway why does Laser not exist here?

 

[Jackrito]

I still stand by my earlier point that this is more like Town Wisp. He's just very low effort from what I.m used to where he is more of the leader type. They are clear reasons to explain that. I know scum can be frustrated as well, but Wisp is a person who is pretty clear with his emotions. I say this as someone who has done a hydra with him and talked about mafia a fair bit out of game. I know this means little, but that is my take.

 

[BoomFrog]

And hey, unlike Wiisp and Boom you provided a reason to be suspicious of Pythag. which make you probably more trustworthy then them

FYI, wiisp was mostly fishing for reactions and trying to stir up discussion. I added my vote to help. We were obviously not very serious, but it was a half serious vote and could have turned more serious.

At least that's my interpretation. Wiisp may have had different thinking.

 

[Wiisp]

boomfrog understands me lol
so does Jack

 

[3DSNinja]

Well, I didn't know that, so it looked like a very scummy move.

 

[3DSNinja]

And even so, that still seems like a horrible idea; just makes everyone even more suspicious of you two when you're already near the bottom of everyone's read lists.

 

[Xivii]

 

 

[Xivii]