Oasis Mafia - Over!

[Xivii]

Vote Count 1.11


Ninja (4) - Laser, Ran, Jack, Wisp [L-2]


Utopian (2) - Sabrar, Boom


Sabrar (1) - Utopian


Maven (1) - pythag


Ran (1) - Ninja


Not Voting (2)
Maven, Z25​

Spoiler: History

P1
Sabrar #Laser
Ninja #UP
pythag #Maven
Ran #Jack
Laser #Ran
UP #Jack
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Z25 #pythag
Boom #Sabrar
Laser #Wiisp
Ran #Ninja

P2
Jack #Laser
Boom #Unv
Boom #Jack
Ran #Laser

P3-P4*
Z25 #Unv

P4-P5*
Laser #Sabrar
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv
Sabrar #UP
Jack #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Ninja

P5-P7*
Jack #pythag
Boom #Unv
Boom #Maven
Wiisp #Ninja

P7-P9*
Wiisp #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Boom

P10
Jack #Laser

P12
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Boom #Unv
Boom #UP

P13-15*
Laser #Unv
Laser #Ninja
Ninja #Unv
Ninja #Ran
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja

P15-P18*
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Wiisp #Boom

P21
Wisp #Ninja

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With 11 alive, it takes 6 to execute!

Deadline: Monday, April 20, 2:00pm EDT

 

[Z25]

I don't think you necessarily 'want' someone speaking in emojis. does it reek of 'look-at-me'? sure. did it piss everyone off, also sure. is it scummy? eh.

Sometimes people don't reveal all their information at once.
whenever people vote whomever while claiming "I'm voting X for pressure" totally deflates the balloon. If Laser suspected scum in the neighborhood, Why should he let you in on his plan?


So you just saw laser as a rogue townie?



Fair enough


makes sense.

Why does he only have 1 partner?
Are there only 2 scum in the game?

That’s fair that they would reveal information all at once but iirc didn’t laser post before we discussed scum in the neighborhood? That implies they would have to think of know beforehand that scum could or was in the neighborhood to have that point of view.

The former could make sense from someone with experience, the later does not make work unless laser was scum however.

I can definitely see the former as a more likely possibility though as I believe laser mentioned playing mafia before so it’s that farfetch’d they would know of a typical neighborhood setup.

I kinda feel that 3DS has been parroting anything, including himself.

If there's only 2 mafia, I immediately suspect laser as third party.

Ran do you make anything of laser assuming 2 mafia? (Maven and 3DS in this case?)

Laser as 3rd party could be interesting. It would be unlikely they are jester then though since they stopped their act that would likely have gotten them lynched otherwise. Which you could argue I suppose that this could of been their plan to drop the attack and seem like they were better but get lynched because town would trust that.

Kinda of doubt that currently however. If we lynch two scum though and the game doesn’t end then I would still say there’s a 3rd scum first but 3rd party could make sense. If there is one we might see signs of that later though.

Regardless, tell me why is Laser your first go to and what would make you think it’s 2 mafia only?

Personally based on Dgames history games of this size when we had them usually had 3 scum but that doesn’t make it a guarantee here.

 

[Wiisp]

11 players? ya probably 2
anything higher is really wolf sided
outside some mechanics, like maybe a lost wolf, but even then, that's still a lot of wolves

also now realizing that there are probably only two wolves
reading wagons wont be a thing

uhhm in a world of two, who exactly would be the sole partner to wolf!Ninja

 

[Wiisp]

hmm this is gunna be more fun
I kinda hope Ninja isnt a wolf, and there is at least one really strong wolf
two would be like the icing on a cake for me

 

[Wiisp]

##unvote

 

[Wiisp]

3rd parties are kinda lame
I hope one doesn't exist
unless they bring something unique to the game

 

[Wiisp]

Pythag
were u the first person to mention 3rd party?

 

[Wiisp]

who is against flavor claiming right now?

 

[Jackrito]

who is against flavor claiming right now?

define flavor claiming

 

[Jackrito]

11 players? ya probably 2
anything higher is really wolf sided
outside some mechanics, like maybe a lost wolf, but even then, that's still a lot of wolves

also now realizing that there are probably only two wolves
reading wagons wont be a thing

uhhm in a world of two, who exactly would be the sole partner to wolf!Ninja

I think that 11 is borderline going into 3 scum area depends on the roles in play and if any 3rd party. I would expect wolfs to be strong rolewise if only 2 or town is weak. This is my view as a game manager.

 

[Pythag]

Pythag
were u the first person to mention 3rd party?

I was, yeah. I was operating under the idea that there were 3 scum.
When Laser seemed to confidently mention that perhaps it in the scenario that was being discussed 3DS only had one partner (maven in this instance)

I definitely read it out of context, and was super pinged by how casually he was 'sure' there were only two.

So I did a quick search, saw that 11 is balanced with 3 mafia (this was not an exhaustive search) and then jumped to my own conclusion.

@Z that's why I was immediately on Laser about that. I was perhaps wrong.

 

[Wiisp]

I think that 11 is borderline going into 3 scum area depends on the roles in play and if any 3rd party. I would expect wolfs to be strong rolewise if only 2 or town is weak. This is my view as a game manager.

3 scum is just insane, I can't see that outside town have some kind of strong vig

Wolves being strong role wise doesn't have to be a thing, town probably isn't super strong

Flavor claiming is exactly what it sounds like
Hey I am Funnier

 

[Wiisp]

also to note
Laser was the first person to bring up the possible existence of only two mafia

 

[Pythag]

Flavor claiming is exactly what it sounds like
Hey I am Funnier

does that mean you're lovers with Exlight?

also to note
Laser was the first person to bring up the possible existence of only two mafia

He was, but it sounds like you were always operating with the idea of there only being two mafia? am I reading that right?

 

[Wiisp]

Pythag
wtf?
also no it didnt even cross my mind

 

[Wiisp]

if the exlight flavor claims, it doesn't make him town
but if he doesn't claim I am pretty certain he is a wolf

 

[Pythag]

Pythag
wtf?
also no it didnt even cross my mind

I was just funning.

 

[Wiisp]

I was just funning.

are you exlight? or is the meme really that strong?

 

[Jackrito]

3 scum is just insane, I can't see that outside town have some kind of strong vig

Wolves being strong role wise doesn't have to be a thing, town probably isn't super strong

Flavor claiming is exactly what it sounds like
Hey I am Funnier

My flavor will make you hate me lol.

 

[Wiisp]

My flavor will make you hate me lol.

what lol

 

[Wiisp]

honestly, I'm just going to assume exactly what I think that means
kek

 

[Wiisp]

actually I just realized my role would be broken if "Exlight" wasn't the same alignment of me

 

[Jackrito]

honestly, I'm just going to assume exactly what I think that means
kek

What do you assume it means?

 

[Wiisp]

honestly if I live to day 2, I will decide if you can still be a wolf or not then
if you are claiming Exlight
only because I have seen this role variant as w/v on another site
if exlight is a wolf, then there are probably 3 wolves

 

[ranmaru]

I didn't assume Laser meant two mafia and Laser clarified. I am assuming 3 mafia.

 

[Jackrito]

honestly if I live to day 2, I will decide if you can still be a wolf or not then
if you are claiming Exlight
only because I have seen this role variant as w/v on another site
if exlight is a wolf, then there are probably 3 wolves

I'm not claiming Exlight, I'm also not sure where all this Exlight stuff is coming from in the first place.

 

[Pythag]

I'm not claiming Exlight, I'm also not sure where all this Exlight stuff is coming from in the first place.

First game Ex and Funnier played on here they like kept having side conversations during the match amidst all the other conversations. it was pretty funny.

I'm not exlight either, just memeing

 

[Wiisp]

Jackrito
I don't get what you were hinting at?

Pythag
So u just geussed my role just like that?

 

[Wiisp]

now I am paranoid
but have another early shift
going to sleep

 

[Jackrito]

Jackrito
I don't get what you were hinting at?

Pythag
So u just geussed my role just like that?

I'm not going to just out and say it since it sort of links to my role as well. Which is partly why I'm against flavor claiming just wanted to have a bit of fun.

 

[ranmaru]

Jack: Thoughts on Wisp voting Ninja and unvoting?

 

[Wiisp]

fair, and ok
didn't think flavor would run that deep, interesting

 

[Jackrito]

fair, and ok
didn't think flavor would run that deep, interesting

It does with mine not sure on others.

 

[Jackrito]

Jack: Thoughts on Wisp voting Ninja and unvoting?

I thought that he was still on Ninja tbh.

 

[ranmaru]

He unvoted in #845.

 

[Z25]

3 scum is just insane, I can't see that outside town have some kind of strong vig

Wolves being strong role wise doesn't have to be a thing, town probably isn't super strong

Flavor claiming is exactly what it sounds like
Hey I am Funnier

Back in the day when this place was populated 11- 12 player games usually always operated on 3 mafia. Town would usually have a cop and something like role blocker or redirector or/even doctor.

It was usually a pretty balanced setup in those games, at least in my personal opinion, so it wouldn’t be insane if that’s the deal here.

 

[Jackrito]

He unvoted in #845.

You are indeed correct. I'm not sure why he did it. I know he likes to move his vote around, he normally gives a reason though. He seems to be going back and fore on Ninja a lot this game. I would expect him to be pushing elsewhere though to unvote

 

[Sabrar]

I'm claiming ExLight. I have no idea what that means for Wiisp.

 

[Sabrar]

I'm also assuming 3 wolves (where the third is not necessarily a full wolf but could be traitor/recruitable). I feel 9-2 is too strong for town so if we only have two then there is likely an indie.

 

[Sabrar]

Yeah I just reread Sabrar's case, and there's nothing wrong there.

Sorry Sabrar.

So why did you say before that you saw me making completely false points? That would imply that you read them, thought about them and found them incorrect in some way. Tell me your thought process that made you post your accusation first and only when prodded read the actual content.