Nook and the background.

[Brawlman]

This is all that needs to be said:

IT'S A FREAKIN VIDEO GAME!!! DOES IT HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!?!?!?

I thank you for your time.

 

[BoG]

If you will, take a look at this melee screenshot.

It's Captain Falcon's ship!

But wait, isn't captain falcon playable? If that is the case, then who is flying the ship?
As it seems, he must be both flying the ship AND a playable fighter. Wacky!

 

[Oasis_S]

If you will, take a look at this melee screenshot.

It's Captain Falcon's ship!

But wait, isn't captain falcon playable? If that is the case, then who is flying the ship?
As it seems, he must be both flying the ship AND a playable fighter. Wacky!

Autopilot?

 

[Red_Maniac]

If you will, take a look at this melee screenshot.

It's Captain Falcon's ship!

But wait, isn't captain falcon playable? If that is the case, then who is flying the ship?
As it seems, he must be both flying the ship AND a playable fighter. Wacky!

...maybe Noclaf Niatpac was driving it?

 

[BoG]

Autopilot?

Yeah, I thought of that too. I guess I underestimated the minds of smashboards. Oh well, I'm sure people do it all the time, some of the people really are idiots.
But say it ISN'T autopilot!?!?

 

[Red_Maniac]

Noclaf Niatpac!

 

[Mari0sPooPoo]

Uh-oh, it seems Sonic has just been deconfirmed! I have proof!!!

 

[Oasis_S]

Yeah, I thought of that too. I guess I underestimated the minds of smashboards. Oh well, I'm sure people do it all the time, some of the people really are idiots.
But say it ISN'T autopilot!?!?

Black Shadow might have made two more clones of Captain Falcon?!

 

[Super Smash Master]

If you will, take a look at this melee screenshot.

It's Captain Falcon's ship!

But wait, isn't captain falcon playable? If that is the case, then who is flying the ship?
As it seems, he must be both flying the ship AND a playable fighter. Wacky!

Is Captain falcon visible in the cockpit of the car? Nope. Thus, your point is gone.

That's like saying that Nook would be deconfirmed, because his store is in the background.


But anyway, you people are stupid. Tom Nook is different than the Humans. The Humans are like koopas. There are more than one. Tom nook is one guy. They wouldn't have more than one of him. OMG NOOKS CRANNY TOM NOOK FOR BRAWL LOLOLOL

Grow a ****ing brain. I really hope that if AC Human IS playable, they make a more detailed character model. That one is just ugly compared to the beautiful Brawl models we've seen.

Nook won't be playable. Go cry about it.

 

[Conker1]

There will be no AC player character. Nook is a BG character. KK is a BG character. Resetti is an AT. AC is done. I really don't expect the "Animal Crosser" to be playable. Smashville is the representative for AC, it's such a detailed stage that it can do a fine job of repping without a character.

I doubt they would bother putting Nook in the background if he was a player character. They aren't trying to trick us.

 

[Big-Cat]

Is Captain falcon visible in the cockpit of the car? Nope. Thus, your point is gone.

That's like saying that Nook would be deconfirmed, because his store is in the background.


But anyway, you people are stupid. Tom Nook is different than the Humans. The Humans are like koopas. There are more than one. Tom nook is one guy. They wouldn't have more than one of him. OMG NOOKS CRANNY TOM NOOK FOR BRAWL LOLOLOL

Grow a ****ing brain. I really hope that if AC Human IS playable, they make a more detailed character model. That one is just ugly compared to the beautiful Brawl models we've seen.

Nook won't be playable. Go cry about it.

You fail to realize that Nook is the Nurse Joy/Officer Jenny of Animal Crossing.

 

[Mari0sPooPoo]

There will be no AC player character. Nook is a BG character. KK is a BG character. Resetti is an AT. AC is done. I really don't expect the "Animal Crosser" to be playable. Smashville is the representative for AC, it's such a detailed stage that it can do a fine job of repping without a character.

I doubt they would bother putting Nook in the background if he was a player character. They aren't trying to trick us.

 

[BoG]

I got it. Sakurai wants more duos in the game? Timmy and Tommy Nook awesome!?!?
Also, Crazy Redd hasn't been in those shots, and he is somewhat of a villain.
Tortimer? He's old, but he could fight. Final Smash? the mystical SUPER TORTIMER of April Fools fame! BRILLIANT!
There's also Cap'n, who was major in both games. And Gulliver, he could use space weapons!
I'm really not worried, the possibilities are endless for AC. you can't really argue who is most important of all of those.
AC PC FB!

EDIT: And K.K. is IN NO WAY deconfirmed. There is a lot of mystery surrounding his appearance. I mean, what if that is how you unlock him? Why highlight that particular aspect of the time? K.K. would be an awesome addition. A live performance? It's a good time to be alive, and playing as K.K.

 

[Conker1]

Good to see my main agrees with me.

 

[Oasis_S]

You fail to realize that Nook is the Nurse Joy/Officer Jenny of Animal Crossing.

There's only one Nook in any town at one time. There can be up to 7 humans in a town at a time. They don't imply that each Tom Nook in everyone's town is different either, if anything they try to imply that it's the same one.

I'm sure it's not just me, but I didn't think Tom Nook would be the AC rep in the first place. The human always made much more sense. Tom Nook being in the background doesn't mean he won't be playable, it's that the AC human would come before him that makes Nook so unlikely. Nook being in the background only makes it seem so much more likely that if AC got a character then it would be a human.

 

[paralasalud]

dang, this whole thread is going in circles. lol.

i think if there's an AC rep it's gotta be the human.
i just think it makes more sense story wise in regards to the SE.
we have no idea for sure if all characters are linked with SE. however i think that AC human would have a better story- you know, trying to protect the well being of his/her town. personally i just think that works better than tom nook wanting to protect his store or whatever. but that was all speculation and biased. sooooooo... yeah

 

[Big-Cat]

There's only one Nook in any town at one time. There can be up to 7 humans in a town at a time. They don't imply that each Tom Nook in everyone's town is different either, if anything they try to imply that it's the same one.

I'm sure it's not just me, but I didn't think Tom Nook would be the AC rep in the first place. The human always made much more sense. Tom Nook being in the background doesn't mean he won't be playable, it's that the AC human would come before him that makes Nook so unlikely. Nook being in the background only makes it seem so much more likely that if AC got a character then it would be a human.

Let me ask you this. Why has Pikachu been in the SSB series since day one but a Pokemon Trainer character isn't made until Brawl?

 

[Oasis_S]

Let me ask you this. Why has Pikachu been in the SSB series since day one but a Pokemon Trainer character isn't made until Brawl?

Because Pikachu is the official mascot of Pokemon, unlike Tom Nook to Animal Crossing.

 

[Bassoonist]

I'm not even anti-Nook (I really wanted him in actually, it would have been awesome!), however you guys thinking that he still has a chance... well you know what that's called? "blind optimism".

"He's never been shown in the background during a gameplay screenshot."

Well, I don't see what that has to do with anything. Really, adding a character in the background of a stage just to show it on the Dojo in a non gameplay screenshot, that's just flat out odd. I guess Sakurai could be confusing us with that, but I seriously doubt it.

It may not be a gameplay screenshot, but it is still a picture of the stage itself, therefore it is an accurate picture of the stage itself. I don't see how this isn't clear to anyone. It's just blind optimism.

 

[TheMastermind]

Can someone tell me what is so great about tom nook??
Can someone tell me what was so great about that game?

Its not even a fighting game.
If they were gonna add in a new character animal crossing games would not be the first place they look.
The game is already represented by the stage and the Assist Trophy.
I seriously believe fans are very lucky to have that.

 

[Space_Pirate_Fox_McCloud]

If you will, take a look at this melee screenshot.

It's Captain Falcon's ship!

But wait, isn't captain falcon playable? If that is the case, then who is flying the ship?
As it seems, he must be both flying the ship AND a playable fighter. Wacky!

Since the screenshot shows the Falcon Flyer instead of the Blue Falcon, Melee explains how his ship can exist without him driving it in its trophy.

This is the text that goes along with the Falcon Flyer trophy in Melee. "Captain Falcon's speedy midsize star cruiser boasts an on-board computer that allows Falcon to control it remotely _ perhaps that's why it's never appeared on-screen in an F-Zero game."

In otherwords, Melee states that this vehicle can be controlled remotely, even when not inside the vehicle. So it's safe to say that Falcon is not inside that vehicle at all, and it's not really much of a stretch to assume that the Blue Falcon also has a similar remote setup allowing it to drive without Falcon as well.

I'm not arguing Nook's chances, but your support does fall a little short.

 

[M.K]

Of course, when the K.K. Slider Music came out, it came with a quote that read "Heroes Always Arrive Late"

Which leads me to believe, that when K.K. performs at night, he WILL challenge you :D

Still, It's between 3 now:

1. K.K Slider
2. Tom Nook
3. Crosser/Crossette

 

[TheMastermind]

Of course, when the K.K. Slider Music came out, it came with a quote that read "Heroes Always Arrive Late"
Still, It's between 3 now:

1. K.K Slider
2. Tom Nook
3. Crosser/Crossette

Sorry animal crossing characters would be a lame SSBB character. There wont be one.
At least AC has kmore of a chance than geno.

The game is represented by the stage and the assist trophy
Fans are lucky to have that. The character spot should be reserved for
more deserveing fighters.

 

[Kaburii]

...Seriously though, only fans of games care who makes it into the Brawl roster.

Real fighters care how good they fight...*cough* low tier Nook FTW

Mewtwo was a cool concept - play as the evilest Pokemon. Oh wait, he's slow and floaty and easily KOed in Melee...hmm

 

[TheMastermind]

...Seriously though, only fans of games care who makes it into the Brawl roster.
Real fighters care how good they fight...*cough* low tier Nook FTW
Mewtwo was a cool concept - play as the evilest Pokemon. Oh wait, he's slow and floaty and easily KOed in Melee...hmm

Seriously, I agree, how would it look if Tom nook was top tier?

"Danget STUPID OP TOM NOOK keeps killing my Meta knight and IKE!!!!!
That would be seriously lame.

Ike ,looseing to tom nook lol!!
an Animal crossing character beating snake or IKE.
Nintendo would not like that.

 

[Oasis_S]

Seriously, I agree, how would it look if Tom nook was top tier?

"Danget STUPID OP TOM NOOK keeps killing my Meta knight and IKE!!!!!
That would be seriously lame.

Ike ,looseing to tom nook lol!!
an Animal crossing character beating snake or IKE.
Nintendo would not like that.

Your reasoning is seriously lame.

 

[Shuma]

You know.. i hate the AC series. But i think it's unnavoidable, we will get someone from the AC series as a character.

 

[prettymanfairy]

Seriously, I agree, how would it look if Tom nook was top tier?

"Danget STUPID OP TOM NOOK keeps killing my Meta knight and IKE!!!!!
That would be seriously lame.

Ike ,looseing to tom nook lol!!
an Animal crossing character beating snake or IKE.
Nintendo would not like that.

Opinion does not equal fact. Many people think Pokemon is lame but it sells millions, thus garnering a spot in a game of Nintendo All stars. Animal Crossing is the fifth best selling game in both the Gamecube and the DS. It is a popular franchise that has in it's own right earned a character. "LOLZ DEY R LAME" is not an argument. Many people think Diddy was lame, same goes for Peach, or even Pokemon Trainer.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Opinion does not equal fact. Many people think Pokemon is lame but it sells millions, thus garnering a spot in a game of Nintendo All stars. Animal Crossing is the fifth best selling game in both the Gamecube and the DS. It is a popular franchise that has in it's own right earned a character. "LOLZ DEY R LAME" is not an argument. Many people think Diddy was lame, same goes for Peach, or even Pokemon Trainer.

Mastermind never makes a point...

Apparently, he thinks his opinion matters more than anyone else, though his opinion is unfounded and narrow minded, which he called me ironically after replying to his hatred toward some characters

 

[prettymanfairy]

Mastermind never makes a point...

Apparently, he thinks his opinion matters more than anyone else, though his opinion is unfounded and narrow minded, which he called me ironically after replying to his hatred toward some characters

I say we simply ignore him. I don't like it when anyone hates the inclusion of anyone. Gah.

 

[Maikeru17]

Opinion does not equal fact. Many people think Pokemon is lame but it sells millions, thus garnering a spot in a game of Nintendo All stars. Animal Crossing is the fifth best selling game in both the Gamecube and the DS. It is a popular franchise that has in it's own right earned a character. "LOLZ DEY R LAME" is not an argument. Many people think Diddy was lame, same goes for Peach, or even Pokemon Trainer.

QFT. Like. Seriously.


Also, try to keep in mind that there has never been a stage without a character for it (Final D. has the hands and Battlefield has Polygons/Wire-frames, and they're not based on any specific franchise anyway, so don't try it), which also points to an Animal Crossing character.

AC is pretty darn popular nowadays, especially among DS users of all ages. Claiming that they're lame is pretty sad, considering there are a lot more LAME games than AC.
Judging a game that probably has more depth than any of your favorite games, just because it's got a bunch of cute animals as an overtone is again, sad.

 

[prettymanfairy]

QFT. Like. Seriously.


Also, try to keep in mind that there has never been a stage without a character for it (Final D. has the hands and Battlefield has Polygons/Wire-frames, and they're not based on any specific franchise anyway, so don't try it), which also points to an Animal Crossing character.

AC is pretty darn popular nowadays, especially among DS users of all ages. Claiming that they're lame is pretty sad, considering there are a lot more LAME games than AC.
Judging a game that probably has more depth than any of your favorite games, just because it's got a bunch of cute animals as an overtone is again, sad.

Thank you for agreeing. Off topic: Do you mind if I put the Belmont sticker in my sig? Especially if you made it.

 

[Maikeru17]

Thank you for agreeing. Off topic: Do you mind if I put the Belmont sticker in my sig? Especially if you made it.

xD You're welcome.
Uhh, no I didn't make it, so I'm sure you're free to go on and do that. :'3

 

[TheMastermind]

Actually I made some very good points in the Geno topic.

I just dont believe an AC character will make it.
Sure its popular, but it just wouldnt make a good fighter. all of the other characters besides
G&W have been in fighting/action games where enemys are killed.

I dont care how popular the game is, a character doesnt belong in brawl.
Mark my words.

 

[silver777]

Actually I made some very good points in the Geno topic.

I just dont believe an AC character will make it.
Sure its popular, but it just wouldnt make a good fighter. all of the other characters besides
G&W have been in fighting/action games where enemys are killed.

I dont care how popular the game is, a character doesnt belong in brawl.
Mark my words.

why won't a popular series that sells millions won't have a character???

why they won't fit?? it doesn't really matter if YOU think they won't fit.

they are going to have a character, i am very confident they will.

I dont care how popular the game is, a character doesnt belong in brawl.
Mark my words.

I will save that. and see at the end.

 

[TheMastermind]

If im right, and an Animal crossing character is not in the game.
You have to add me to your sig for a yeah. Put,

"An animal crossing character didnt make it into the game
Mastermind was right )="

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The only good option for an AC fighter would be the Animal Crosser. There are many Animal Crossers that exist after all.

 

[Bassoonist]

If im right, and an Animal crossing character is not in the game.
You have to add me to your sig for a yeah. Put,

"An animal crossing character didnt make it into the game
Mastermind was right )="

No, because your reasoning behind an Animal Crossing character not being playable is really flawed.

 

[GaryCXJk]

Okay, it's not really the fact that the game could check whether or not a certain character is on the field that is the problem. It's the fact that it would really be ******** to code both. I'm pretty sure Sakurai had some interesting things going on in the background, some with Nook. Taking Nook out by use of a character lowers his appearance on background, making it useless to put him in in the first place, because they would risk the fact that they would program the background-Nook for nothing.

It's like Kano and Sonya Blade making a cameo appearance in Mortal Kombat 2. Both aren't playable in the game, but seen in the background, animated. The people of Mortal Kombat wouldn't go trough all the trouble of making them playable and using boolean operators to check whether or not they're on the field. If they would, they might as well just drop both characters from the background altogether.

Now before anyone brings it up, yes, Shao Kahn is seen in that very same background, however, he is never playable. Yes, when he leaves his throne to fight you, he isn't seen in the background anymore, but that's just a one time occasion and a boss battle.

Tom Nook isn't worth going trough the trouble of both animating him in the background and as a character. It's one or the other. Doing both is just a waste of space. Given, it only takes a few kilobytes, but still, every kilobyte less saves in lag.

 

[burrito]

The Animal Crossing stage is a very dynamic stage, characters often enter and leave the stage. So, it's not like it's not completely crazy that Tom Nook could not appear on the stage when you play as him. Plus, Sakurai could always be trying to purposely mislead us.

Anyhow, a character isn't deconfirmed until he is officially deconfirmed, so constantly bringing up the "in the background" argument is kind of pointless.

Right, so everyone completely ignores what I say >_>. There was not enough of a precedent that you can say that just because a character is in the background, he can't be playable. It may work against Nook's chances, but he isn't deconfirmed, until he is officially deconfirmed. There's a lot of foolish bitterness in this thread and it's really bothering me.

I don't care if Nook is playable or not, I'm actually hoping for an Animal Crossing human now.

Tom Nook isn't worth going trough the trouble of both animating him in the background and as a character. It's one or the other. Doing both is just a waste of space. Given, it only takes a few kilobytes, but still, every kilobyte less saves in lag.

Yeah, it would take a lot of work to animate Nook, just look at the detail in his.... ummmmm..... errrrr....

I dont care how popular the game is, a character doesnt belong in brawl.

That's like an oxymoron. The thing about Super Smash Bros. is that the more a character doesn't fit, the more it fits. It is one of the things I love about it so much.

There are threee criteria to consider whether a character should be included in Brawl: uniqueness, popularity, and importance. Whether they are a fighter or not should not come into question.