No "flailing" animation effect

[Wave⁂]

You know how when you reapetedly hit your opponent a LOT, they sometimes get hit without getting the fliaing around animation?

why does that happen? it happens a lot with me for chaining Falco's nairs and his shine.

 

[Klowne]

I don't know the specifics, but i think it happens when you hit someone at the very moment they fall on the ground from a previous attack. Maybe it was put in to prevent huge comboes or something. I've been wondering about it too.

 

[Wave⁂]

but why would that happen with falco's shine? i juggle with that, and they never hit the ground.

 

[phanna]

If they input anything in their controllers before or during the hit, it can sometimes be changed accordingly. Such inputs include crouch cancelling, or doing a get-up, or an attack.

 

[Wave⁂]

? what do you mean?

 

[Sudai]

I was gonna say that it's possible that you hit them just as the flailing animation from the last attack ended, but Phanna is much more credible than me imo, so take his word. That also makes a lot more since because half the time I see it it's in the form of a super air dodge indicating someone trying to shield while being hit.

 

[Earthbound360]

I notice this happen a lot too with Ness' dash attack. But whenever I see this, I believe it has something to do with them hitting the ground or DI.

 

[Juce]

the first replier pretty much had it right. It's when they hit the ground without a tech and you pop them up in the air before they do anything. phanna is wrong though, with something like falco's shine (at least at non-0 percents) it'll do that to them every time they're just laying on the ground.

this is also the basis for one of the ways to do the "zero gravity" trick on hyrule.


earthbound360 - it's because the beginning of ness' dash attack can knock the opponent over, and then if it doesn't hit again until the last hit, it'll do the same pop up thing. it has nothing to do with di, it's just if they don't tech.

 

[Wave⁂]

cool, thanks. *another mystery solved*

 

[Zone]

Isn't this called like "phantom hit" or something. I have had phantom tips before with marth -.-;.

 

[Earthbound360]

No, he means when you take knockback without flailing. Phantom hits are no knockback at all.