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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Luigi The President

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Could we go like, one day without somebody starting something? It's possible to respond to somebody that you disagree with without being rude. If somebody's aggravating you and you're going to put them on ignore, you don't need to inform them first.
Sorry, I guess? I mean, it was a page ago and everyone had dropped it...even though it hadn't even began?
 

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I there's MArio Maker two it should be adding the other 2D Mario games. It should be MARIO MAKER 3D!

We got Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy and 3D World to toy around with now
 

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what exactly is the deal with when they cry
other than dead children or something
It's just a horror anime (based on a VN), infamous for laughably bad animation during the first season (thank you Studio DEEN).

Murdering aside it's more or less innocent.
 

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It's just a horror anime (based on a VN), infamous for laughably bad animation during the first season (thank you Studio DEEN).

Murdering aside it's more or less innocent.
oh yeah i'm familiar with the general premise of it and stuff (i have dear you on the music list for that dumb thing)
i haven't watched or read it though so
 

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I there's MArio Maker two it should be adding the other 2D Mario games. It should be MARIO MAKER 3D!

We got Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy and 3D World to toy around with now
Hey don't forget Galaxy 2 and 3D Land, as well dude.
 

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Hey don't forget Galaxy 2 and 3D Land, as well dude.
Nintendo didn't remember Mario Bros 2 USA, Land 1, Land 2, New, New Wii or New 2 either.
 

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Seeing Anna fans bash Daisy is even more hypocritical than when Geno Boost was bashing Shantae.

It's kinda sickening that we're at a point where certain characters are deemed acceptable for mockery, yet others are off limits.

Joking or not, after this, you guys really have no right to whine and complain at me for saying Anna's a no hope character when you're perfectly willing to bash Daisy like that yourselves.
 
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Or....or...how about this?

We could stop bashing characters all together.

Since that's the real issue at hand.

Mocking something anyone likes is just rude as hell.

#PreparesTheFlameShieldForTryingtoBeNiceToEveryone
 
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Seeing Anna fans bash Daisy is even more hypocritical than when Geno Boost was bashing Shantae.

It's kinda sickening that we're at a point where certain characters are deemed acceptable for mockery, yet others are off limits.

Joking or not, after this, you guys really have no right to whine and complain at me for saying Anna's a no hope character when you're perfectly willing to bash Daisy like that yourselves.
"One guy who likes Anna says something about Daisy"

You: THESE ANNA FANS...

Stop trying to find a crazy reason to bash a character you don't like lol
 

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Or....or...how about this?

We could stop bashing characters all together.

Since that's the real issue at hand.

Mocking something anyone likes is just rude as hell.

#PreparesTheFlameShieldForTryingtoBeNiceToEveryone
Thing is, I really don't care who bashes who. I think the idea that it's somehow offensive and insulting to say a character has no chance is completely idiotic, and I've told you that the last 80 times we've had this discussion.

My problem isn't that they're making fun of Daisy; it's that it's being done by fans of a character that I was chewed out for saying has no chance. I think it's complete and utter bull that they expect one character to be made off-limits just because she's their waifu, but another character can be openly mocked just because she's not popular in this thread. Especially when the character their mocking is far, far likelier to get into Smash than their the one they're overly protective over.

I think people should be allowed to say whatever the hell they want. I don't think negative opinions on characters should be silenced, especially not by people who actively try and shut up others for having a negative opinion that they disagree with.

"One guy who likes Anna says something about Daisy"

You: THESE ANNA FANS...

Stop trying to find a crazy reason to bash a character you don't like lol
Who made the posts mocking Daisy?

You, Zoroarking, and Ryuga. Three Anna fans. She's your avatar, for crying out loud.

What exactly is wrong with my generalization?
 
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Seeing Anna fans bash Daisy is even more hypocritical than when Geno Boost was bashing Shantae.

It's kinda sickening that we're at a point where certain characters are deemed acceptable for mockery, yet others are off limits.

Joking or not, after this, you guys really have no right to whine and complain at me for saying Anna's a no hope character when you're perfectly willing to bash Daisy like that yourselves.
It's been too long, Burb

damnit i cant find burb cena, instead i just made myself sad for another reason
 

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Thing is, I really don't care who bashes who. I think the idea that it's somehow offensive and insulting to say a character has no chance is completely idiotic, and I've told you that the last 80 times we've had this discussion.

My problem isn't that they're making fun of Daisy; it's that it's being done by fans of a character that I was chewed out for saying has no chance. I think it's complete and utter bull that they expect one character to be made off-limits just because she's their waifu, but another character can be openly mocked just because she's not popular in this thread. Especially when the character their mocking is far, far likelier to get into Smash than their the one they're overly protective over.

I think people should be allowed to say whatever the hell they want. I don't think negative opinions on characters should be silenced, especially not by people who actively try and shut up others for having a negative opinion that they disagree with.
I went with you a thousands times Burb, most of us who support Anna KNOWS she has no chance and we don't act superior to anyone and you're just projecting like crazy.

DON'T DO THAT. And it's just harmless fun that you're trying to turn into an argument. At the end of the day both characters are unlikely to in at all
 

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I went with you a thousands times Burb, most of us who support Anna KNOWS she has no chance and we don't act superior to anyone and you're just projecting like crazy.

DON'T DO THAT. And it's just harmless fun that you're trying to turn into an argument. At the end of the day both characters are unlikely to in at all
Me: Anna has no chance
Anna fans: We know Burb stop being such a jerk let us have fuuuun!

Anna fans: Daisy's not playable lol wouldn't it be funny if her palette swap was removed

How am I projecting anything? How is it any different? Don't you think plenty of Daisy fans know that she's not likely?

It's not about Anna fans "acting superior". It's about hypocrisy. If you're gonna tell me to stop bashing Anna, then don't turn around and bash Daisy, even under the guise of a "joke".
 
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Character fans are constantly putting down other character's chances as they believe it's a "competition". 'that character can't happen because then my character can't be in the game!' It's not, there's a middle ground in character choices. It's not all or none, it's about appeasing the most amount of people with the limited resources and time that game development has.

I saw some people say "lol Sakurai comparing Krystal to mooks" and that's the totally wrong attitude to have.

When people suggest characters I don't get the impression that Sakurai sees any character as inherently better than others. (except SpongeBob and Goku but they aren't Nintendo characters)

I think he looks at popular requests and goes through this process:

1. Looks to see if he can use them
2. Sees if they are popular enough, is the character too obscure?
3. If they have a moveset
4. Fill a niche
5. Favorable to development
6. If not 5 can they be made into a clone?
7. Are they relevant or retro? (ties into 4 somewhat)

They don't happen in that order per say and some parts occur at the same time. Takamaru probably passed all the requirements except 2 for example. Krystal in Brawl might have passed everything except 5 (and 6).

If you are going to say a character has a chance or no chance base it off logic. There's really no need to make character requests such an emotional thing.
 
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Me: Anna has no chance
Anna fans: We know Burb stop being such a jerk let us have fuuuun!

Anna fans: Daisy's not playable lol wouldn't it be funny if her palette swap was removed

How am I projecting anything? How is it any different? Don't you think plenty of Daisy fans know that she's not likely?
Yeah but you get all nickpicky about stuff like this and act like these we are chastising fans of Daisy. It's nothing different from anything else.

Plus you're acting like it's just 'Anna' fans and not anyone else. All over this for a bunch of video game characters.

God, you guys are so sensitive over stuff like this, man.
 

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Let's... change the subject...

I agree with Burb that we shouldn't bash characters.

Instead...


Here's an interesting question.

Out of all the single rep Nintendo series...

Do you think they would ever get a second character, who would that character be and list them in how likely you think that character appearing some time in the future is.
Complicated question.

To clarify, the single rep series are...

:4gaw: (Game and Watch)
:4littlemac::4wiremac:(Punch Out!!)
:4duckhunt: (Duck Hunt)
:4rob: (Gyromite/Stack Up)
:4falcon:(F-Zero)
:4villager::4villagerf:(Animal Crossing)
:4olimar::4alph:(Pikmin)
:4wiifit::4wiifitm:(Wii Fit)
:4shulk:(Xenoblade)


For my opinion, in order of likeliness.

  1. :4villager: Likely for next game. Probably Isabelle.
  2. :4olimar::4alph::4shulk: Have pretty decent shots. I can see Alph getting promoted and a new Xenoblade protagonist getting in too.
  3. :4falcon:If revived, near guaranteed. Goroh or Black Shadow please.
  4. :4littlemac::4wiremac:Possible, I suppose. King Hippo?
  5. :4rob:Professor Hector ain't happening anytime soon.
  6. :4gaw::4duckhunt::4wiifit::4wiifitm:Literally no one left to add.

And on top of that, add rate your three most wanted Nintendo series.

Golden Sun (Unless we get a major revival, it will be just Isaac)
Chibi-Robo (Literally no one from this series aside from it's protagonist works)
Rhythm Heaven (I can only see one working as token representation.)
 

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Yeah but you get all nickpicky about stuff like this and act like these we are chastising fans of Daisy. It's nothing different from anything else.
You guys took issue with me saying Anna is an unrealistic request who will never be made playable.
I'm taking issue with fans of that same character saying making fun of the fact that Daisy isn't playable.

I don't why it's so hard for you to see the issue with this. It's the same thing, only one was done "as a joke", and my post was said seriously. At the end of the day, they both send the same message regardless of the tone.

Plus you're acting like it's just 'Anna' fans and not anyone else. All over this for a bunch of video game characters.

God, you guys are so sensitive over stuff like this, man.
Oh, lord, the hypocrisy.

That's exactly the kind of stuff I was thinking when you guys were pitching a fit over me saying Anna has no chance.
 

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Who made the posts mocking Daisy?

You, Zoroarking, and Ryuga. Three Anna fans. She's your avatar, for crying out loud.
I didn't bash her. She's my favorite princess. Saying rip princes orange because nobody has seen her costume in Mario Maker doesn't automatically turn this into me not wanting her in smash.

Nice reach tho. Not even Mr. Fantastic could stretch his arms that long

Ryuga is just talking about dumb fans. He's right, every character as there lowest fans
Zorarking didn't even say anything wrong lol. He was ****ting on other characters like sonic too



What exactly is wrong with my generalization?
oh well I guess all Wolf and Krystal fans are gross furry's because I saw a lewd picture of them on google images
 
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I didn't bash her. She's my favorite princess. Saying rip princes orange because nobody has seen her costume in Mario Maker doesn't automatically turn this into me not wanting her in smash.

Nice reach tho. Not even Mr. Fantastic could stretch his arms that long

Ryuga is just talking about dumb fans. He's right, every character as there lowest fans
Zorarking didn't even say anything wrong lol. He was ****ting on other characters too
It was in direct response to Ryuga saying "Wouldn't it be funny if the Daisy palette swap was removed?"

oh well I guess all Wolf and Krystal fans are gross furry's because I saw a lewd picture of them on google images
Nice strawman.

"Everyone who likes Wolf and Krystal are furries" =/= "Zoroarking, one of the people who had an issue with me saying Anna has no chance, made fun of Daisy not being playable. Two other Anna fans proceeded to do the same."
 
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The next person I see continuing this Anna/Daisy fight will get infracted.

You lot are insane.

Just calm down for one and learn to drop things on your own.

You people don't have to "win" every fight.
 
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