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Yo, if two young dudes crash each other cars and get sent flying at the same time from them, who becomes the Isekai protagonist?
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Trick questions, The cars do
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he playin Persona 5. The expultion date is basickly the time limit of the dungeon his on/finished
 
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Is there a trope in gaming where the main protagonist of the story becomes the main antagonist in the later half of the story?

I mean some games do that in between different releases but what I had in mind is a character who's the main hero of the first half of the game but becomes the main villain in the latter half. The game would then go through a huge time skip where the game is played from a new hero's perspective.

Trying to look up the trope for this but the best fit I could find was Protagonist Journey to Villain. Which I guess partially describes that scenario.
 
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Ura said:
Is there a trope in gaming where the main protagonist of the story becomes the main antagonist in the later half of the story?

I mean some games do that in between different releases but what I had in mind is a character who's the main hero of the first half of the game but becomes the main villain in the latter half. The game would then go through a huge time skip where the game is played from a new hero's perspective.
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Well, in Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow, if you consider getting to the bad end as a first half and then Julius Mode as a later half, I guess that works a bit like that.

There is also that one character from Live a Live, but I believe you play that character last before the Final Boss bit, so it wouldn't really be a first half unless I'm wrong.

Actually, there is a game that doesn't quite make you the main antagonist, but in the game Lost Magic, after the first half of the game, there comes a choice where you either give what the main antagonist wants or don't. Depending on the choice, not only does the love interest die, but the main character actually gets outright mind broken and controlled by the main antagonist for the later half and kills almost all of the other important characters, including their father.

Not exactly a true Main Protagonist into a Main Antagonist due to mind control, but it's pretty close. And it's pretty dark for a very cutesy game too.
 
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Ah, don't think I ever mentioned that I got Gravity Falls: Lost Legends as a Christmas gift this year!

I decided to start reading the novel last night. Fantastic stuff already!
 
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Ivander said:
Well, in Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow, if you consider getting to the bad end as a first half and then Julius Mode as a later half, I guess that works a bit like that.

There is also that one character from Live a Live, but I believe you play that character last before the Final Boss bit, so it wouldn't really be a first half unless I'm wrong.

Actually, there is a game that doesn't quite make you the main antagonist, but in the game Lost Magic, after the first half of the game, there comes a choice where you either give what the main antagonist wants or don't. Depending on the choice, not only does the love interest die, but the main character actually gets outright mind broken and controlled by the main antagonist for the later half and kills almost all of the other important characters, including their father.

Not exactly a true Main Protagonist into a Main Antagonist due to mind control, but it's pretty close. And it's pretty dark for a very cutesy game too.
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Yeah KMDP KMDP told me about Live a Live but the two scenario's differ a bit from what I had in mind. I guess the trope isn't as common as I thought it'd be.
 
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Ura said:
Is there a trope in gaming where the main protagonist of the story becomes the main antagonist in the later half of the story?.
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Spoilers for a game like 3 people care about but

this happens in the first Baten Kaitos.

Well sort of
 
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Ura said:
Is there a trope in gaming where the main protagonist of the story becomes the main antagonist in the later half of the story?

I mean some games do that in between different releases but what I had in mind is a character who's the main hero of the first half of the game but becomes the main villain in the latter half. The game would then go through a huge time skip where the game is played from a new hero's perspective.

Trying to look up the trope for this but the best fit I could find was Protagonist Journey to Villain. Which I guess partially describes that scenario.
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As far as I know, the one you've cited would be the most appropriate.

There aren't many games that do it, for the same reason most other mediums don't - because you spend so much one-on-one time with the villain, it requires two full story arcs to do right. Even when it is planned in advance, most of the time it makes more sense to tell two stories as...well, two stories.

Hence why the face-heel turn is more often saved for the sequel.

[EDIT]: If the initial hero gets on with the evilling rather quickly, you could perhaps consider it a case of a Decoy Protagonist.

However I maintain that Protagonist Journey to Villain is more appropriate if they're both given full story arcs and relatively equal screen time.
 
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As far as I know, the one you've cited would be the most appropriate.

There aren't many games that do it, for the same reason most other mediums don't - because you spend so much one-on-one time with the villain, it requires two full story arcs to do right. Even when it is planned in advance, most of the time it makes more sense to tell two stories as...well, two stories.

Hence why the face-heel turn is more often saved for the sequel.
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I guess the story I had in mind is a rarity then. Because it's apart of said character's ascent as a hero only to have one massive fall from grace to cause him to despise humanity.
 
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Ura said:
I guess the story I had in mind is a rarity then. Because it's apart of said character's ascent as a hero only to have one massive fall from grace to cause him to despise humanity.
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While I stand by my prior point generally, this may be something different specifically.

I'd peruse the Heel-Face Index and see what you think applies.
 
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redfeatherraven said:
While I stand by my prior point generally, this may be something different specifically.

I'd peruse the Heel-Face Index and see what you think applies.
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Well I actually brought this up a while ago here and I concluded that Despair Event Horizon and Fallen Hero best describes the character.

The story, however would be more suited towards the Protag Journey to Villain that I mentioned before but not completely. Again, it's a trope that hasn't been done as much as I thought it would be which is surprising. I love stories where the main hero slowly becomes the villain.
 
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Almost a month after Tumblr got rid of its NSFW content, my anti-virus now says the site is risky. Wut?
 
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Ann’s pants look like they’re the same shade as her skin so it looks like she’s sitting pantless right in front of me. lol
 
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So thanks to the boxart reveal, a huge MK11 email leak was just proven true.

Leak itself was more about the game's features though.
 
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Chrono. said:
So thanks to the boxart reveal, a huge MK11 email leak was just proven true.

Leak itself was more about the game's features though.
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Yeah it was the Gearas/Kronika leak I believe. And also the ****ty theme that's going to be played at the reveal unfortunately.
 
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Morgana is getting annoying. Every time I wanna train or build something he’s all “go to bed”.
 
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So apparently the Nintendo Store in New York is hosting a private event on the 15th.
What could this possibly be?
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So apparently the Nintendo Store in New York is hosting a private event on the 15th.
What could this possibly be?
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I'm ruling out a normal Nintendo Direct considering they recently revealed some big titles' release dates casually on social media.

Pokémon Direct maybe?
 
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Quit telling me to go to bed, Morgana! What’s the point of having the training or tool creating in the bedroom if I never can use it?
 
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