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[Z25]

So cool to see Celeste here. Otherwise this is pretty much what you'd expect.

Your 6 nominees for Game of the Year at #TheGameAwards:
- Assassin's Creed Odyssey
- Celeste
- God of War
- Marvel's Spider-Man
- Monster Hunter World
- Red Dead Redemption II

Vote now for your pick at https://t.co/FBDcuHwiPa pic.twitter.com/ouOqtFtElz

— The Game Awards (@thegameawards) November 13, 2018

Celeste is surprising but I’ve heard it’s pretty good.

It’s gotta come down to spider man or red dead. I think spider man will pull it off.

I could see a lot of people vote it in memory of Stan lee since it’s one of his last big projects before his passing

 

[MSmariosonic]

People are welcome to tag me elsewhere if you want the Death Battle conversation to continue, I find discussions like this geniunely interesting.

I think this is the best place to discuss DB now that SA forums has been shut down

 

[Pakky]

She can do multiple Witch Times at once?

Huh, it does put things into perspective.

Yeah during some cutscenes and game play segments while Witch time or Light Speed is affecting the environment, Light Speed and Witch time can still be used against an opponent

 

[KMDP]

Yeah during some cutscenes and game play segments while Witch time or Light Speed is affecting the environment, Light Speed and Witch time can still be used against an opponent

I think the whole battle between Bayo and Jeanne in Bayonetta 1 takes place in Witch Time, where you can still use Witch Time to slow down time even further.

Bayonetta isn't even exhausted by this.

 

[Megadoomer]

My main problem with Death Battle (Dante vs. Bayonetta being the main one that comes to mind, though it applies to others) is that there are some cases where they exaggerate what some characters are capable of while ignoring or downplaying others.

To use Dante vs. Bayonetta specifically, they gave Dante weapons that he doesn't normally use (ex. Yamato, which he has for a grand total of one boss fight before giving it to Nero), exaggerated his abilities (severely exaggerating the strength of Yamato, and I'm pretty sure they also exaggerated his healing capabilities), and played up Bayonetta's moments of weakness (ex. getting hit by Loptr's laser in a cutscene) while ignoring Dante's similar moments. (ex. getting exhausted and weakened from his fight with Vergil, meaning that his healing has a limit of roughly what he can dish out)

 

[KMDP]

My main problem with Death Battle (Dante vs. Bayonetta being the main one that comes to mind, though it applies to others) is that there are some cases where they exaggerate what some characters are capable of while ignoring or downplaying others.

To use Dante vs. Bayonetta specifically, they gave Dante weapons that he doesn't normally use (ex. Yamato, which he has for a grand total of one boss fight before giving it to Nero), exaggerated his abilities (severely exaggerating the strength of Yamato, and I'm pretty sure they also exaggerated his healing capabilities), and played up Bayonetta's moments of weakness (ex. getting hit by Loptr's laser in a cutscene) while ignoring Dante's similar moments. (ex. getting exhausted and weakened from his fight with Vergil, meaning that his healing has a limit of roughly what he can dish out)

One could chalk that up to the limitations of their research (because you can't know everything about every series), but it happens so consistently that it's probably more to do with bias.

 

[Chrono.]

I'm surprised at people underselling God of War.

To me thats the most likely to win it all imo.

 

[Deleted member]

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[MSmariosonic]

My main problem with Death Battle (Dante vs. Bayonetta being the main one that comes to mind, though it applies to others) is that there are some cases where they exaggerate what some characters are capable of while ignoring or downplaying others.

To use Dante vs. Bayonetta specifically, they gave Dante weapons that he doesn't normally use (ex. Yamato, which he has for a grand total of one boss fight before giving it to Nero), exaggerated his abilities (severely exaggerating the strength of Yamato, and I'm pretty sure they also exaggerated his healing capabilities), and played up Bayonetta's moments of weakness (ex. getting hit by Loptr's laser in a cutscene) while ignoring Dante's similar moments. (ex. getting exhausted and weakened from his fight with Vergil, meaning that his healing has a limit of roughly what he can dish out)

Yeah the inclusion of Yamato was pretty odd. Especially when he only gets it at the end of dmc4, but I guess it's the same thing they did with giving Raiden the hf blade in his fight with wolverine.

Dante's healing factor and stamina are quite inconsistent in the dmc media.

 

[Pakky]

Personally One Minute Melee is far easier to watch.

and their otucomes make more sense most of the time, without junk explanations

For example Gaara losing to Crocodile makes more sense than say Gaara losing to I guess Composite Toph?

 

[Chrono.]

My takeaway from this Death Battle discussion is that One Minute Melee is still far better.

EDIT: lol Pakky beat me to it.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope spideyboy or MHW takes it. Don’t really care for RD2 and especially not the new GoW.

 

[Ivander]

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It's also small, as I can't see what is different about it and I can't zoom in.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I always enjoyed Death Battle

I feel like if the majority of viewers would get into the series with the same mentality as me there'd be a lot more upvotes on the videos.

The thing about death battle I like most in the end is the breakdown and analysis of every character. The fight is just for me the icing on the cake.

And sure... they can be wrong. People are wrong all the time. But those guys at SA get **** thrown at them for the wrong reasons.

And something like VS match-up will never have a definitive answer because of the whole concept of characters from different barely-comparable media fighting each other.

 

[Pakky]

My takeaway from this Death Battle discussion is that One Minute Melee is still far better.

EDIT: lol Pakky beat me to it.

Ditto fam

Also big belly laugh at how Sans vs Bill makes sense, without wasting my time with poop butt explanations.

 

[KMDP]

What? Do you even comic bro? Have you seen the feats Supes is capable of?

There are many different versions of Superman, not all of them possess the same level of strength.

Silver Age Superman is able to sneeze and obliterate a solar system, current age Superman is nowhere near that level of power.

Personally One Minute Melee is far easier to watch.

and their outcomes make more sense most of the time, without junk explanations

For example Gaara losing to Crocodile makes more sense than say Gaara losing to I guess Composite Toph?

Crocodile vs. Toph would make for an interesting battle.

Crocodile would definitely win, though.

 

[MSmariosonic]

There are many different versions of Superman, not all of them possess the same level of strength.

Silver Age Superman is able to sneeze and obliterate a solar system, current age Superman is nowhere near that level of power.

I know that. The Superman comics span almost a 100 years after all. But seeing as they use composites my point still stands. :v

 

[Pakky]

There are many different versions of Superman, not all of them possess the same level of strength.

Silver Age Superman is able to sneeze and obliterate a solar system, current age Superman is nowhere near that level of power.

Crocodile vs. Toph would make for an interesting battle.

Crocodile would definitely win, though.

Yes, but also true

One Minute Melee did Ace vs Natsu better imo

DB: Long explanation that has nothing to do with logia Devil fruit regen

OMM: Make e'm pop fam! O:<

 

[Deleted member]

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Don’t tell me you added Waldo. I see what you added otherwise though.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Yes, but also true

One Minute Melee did Ace vs Natsu better imo

DB: Long explanation that has nothing to do with logia Devil fruit rengen

OMM: Make e'm pop fam! O:<

Logia devil fruit users are incredibly hard to use in a VS debate due to the whole turn into an element thing.

And Natsu vs Ace is one of the few logia match-ups I actually see working.

 

[Deleted member]

It's also small, as I can't see what is different about it and I can't zoom in.

No one tell him

Don’t tell me you added Waldo. I see what you added otherwise though.

Why would I add that *****?

 

[Deleted member]

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Look above Snake and below Mewtwo.

Also did you really have to do it to me?

 

[Deleted member]

Why would I add that *****?

Exactly, you didn’t. And for that you’re dumb stupid.

@ShinyLegendary SSSSSHHHHHHH

 

[Pakky]

Logia devil fruit users are incredibly hard to use in a VS debate due to the whole turn into an element thing.

And Natsu vs Ace is one of the few logia match-ups I actually see working.

I agree, though it could go either way based on the rule set you wanna work with.

Does magical fire equate to Haki therefore bypassing logia regen? If yes then I can see the battle most likely going in Natsu's favor.


If not then Natsu could get popped from eating too much at once and or Ace gets beaten by fatigue possibly cuz element generation and exertion on the user differs from logia user it seems, hard to tell.

 

[Deleted member]

@ShinyLegendary SSSSSHHHHHHH

Got it.

 

[Ivander]

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Okay, I think I see what's different, but because it's so small, I still don't get it.

Edit: Is the image uploader broken or something today?

 

[KMDP]

Yes, but also true

One Minute Melee did Ace vs Natsu better imo

DB: Long explanation that has nothing to do with logia Devil fruit regen

OMM: Make e'm pop fam! O:<

The Ace vs Natsu Death Battle makes a lot of assumptions about the interaction between Fire and Lightning within the One Piece world, until we see Sabo fighting Enel, we can't say one way or the other whether Natsu using lightning on Ace would have even done anything; the Fire vs Magma thing is a unique interaction between those specific powers, and while Akainu claims it's because Magma is hotter than Fire (which is... technically true, depending on the flame), what might actually be happening is the magma is smothering Ace's flame, then burning him like a normal person.

Also, they were clearly downplaying Ace's strength (which they are able to easily do because Ace doesn't have that many shown feats); just from implication, we know that Ace is stronger than Luffy, and about as strong as Sabo. You can use both to build a case for Ace's actual strength.

Just like Zoro vs Erza, Ace is probably way, way stronger than Natsu. If Ace never once used his fruit abilities, he'd probably be able to beat Natsu in a fist-fight (Ace, when weaker than he was when he first showed up in One Piece, was able to fight Jinbei for 10 days straight, that's like WTF levels of stamina).

Anyway, Sandy Mobster versus Blind Bandit, how does the fight go?

 

[Deleted member]

I'll start caring about Death Battle again when they do:
T x Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha
hanos

 

[MSmariosonic]

The Ace vs Natsu Death Battle makes a lot of assumptions about the interaction between Fire and Lightning within the One Piece world, until we see Sabo fighting Enel, we can't say one way or the other whether Natsu using lightning on Ace would have even done anything; the Fire vs Magma thing is a unique interaction between those specific powers, and while Akainu claims it's because Magma is hotter than Fire (which is... technically true, depending on the flame), what might actually be happening is the magma is smothering Ace's flame, then burning him like a normal person.

Also, they were clearly downplaying Ace's strength (which they are able to easily do because Ace doesn't have that many shown feats); just from implication, we know that Ace is stronger than Luffy, and about as strong as Sabo. You can use both to build a case for Ace's actual strength.

Just like Zoro vs Erza, Ace is probably way, way stronger than Natsu. If Ace never once used his fruit abilities, he'd probably be able to beat Natsu in a fist-fight (Ace, when weaker than he was when he first showed up in One Piece, was able to fight Jinbei for 10 days straight, that's like WTF levels of stamina).

Anyway, Sandy Mobster versus Blind Bandit, how does the fight go?

I agree.

Ace had no other tools to use due to his whole moveset consisting of fire. So the only way he could truly hurt Natsu was to actually hit him with his fleshy fists. And I don't know if being absorbed by Natsu and then Ace turning into his physical form would actually work.

Eh, logias are just hard to use in VS debates due to the rules of the one piece world. The only other logia match-up I might see happening is Gaara vs Crocodile should been him instead of Toph

I'll start caring about Death Battle again when they do:
T x Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha
hanos

That's a weird anagram for Aizen vs Madara

 

[Pakky]

The Ace vs Natsu Death Battle makes a lot of assumptions about the interaction between Fire and Lightning within the One Piece world, until we see Sabo fighting Enel, we can't say one way or the other whether Natsu using lightning on Ace would have even done anything; the Fire vs Magma thing is a unique interaction between those specific powers, and while Akainu claims it's because Magma is hotter than Fire (which is... technically true, depending on the flame), what might actually be happening is the magma is smothering Ace's flame, then burning him like a normal person.

Also, they were clearly downplaying Ace's strength (which they are able to easily do because Ace doesn't have that many shown feats); just from implication, we know that Ace is stronger than Luffy, and about as strong as Sabo. You can use both to build a case for Ace's actual strength.

Just like Zoro vs Erza, Ace is probably way, way stronger than Natsu. If Ace never once used his fruit abilities, he'd probably be able to beat Natsu in a fist-fight (Ace, when weaker than he was when he first showed up in One Piece, was able to fight Jinbei for 10 days straight, that's like WTF levels of stamina).

Anyway, Sandy Mobster versus Blind Bandit, how does the fight go?

I agree with you on flame cowboy vs Dragon kid thing.

Now to answer your question... poorly for the bandit, sadly.

However Sandman vs Crocodile is a 'no contest'

 

[KMDP]

Now to answer your question... poorly for the bandit, sadly.

Toph: I can see through sand!
Crocodile: I am sand.
Toph: ****, where are you?
Crocodile: Boo.
Toph: *stabbed by hook*

Sounds about right.

 

[Pakky]

Toph: I can see through sand!
Crocodile: I am sand.
Toph: ****, where are you?
Crocodile: Boo.
Toph: *stabbed by hook*

Sounds about right.

lol, very good. XD

Here's a question how strong is ?

 

[Deleted member]

Toph: I can see through sand!
Crocodile: I am sand.
Toph: ****, where are you?
Crocodile: Boo.
Toph: *stabbed by hook*

Sounds about right.

Or you know:
Toph: *just crushes Crocodile's sand body with her mind*

 

[KMDP]

lol, very good. XD

Here's a question how strong is ?

Hmm...

At least strong enough to lift cannonballs.

Any further than that requires power scaling and extrapolation, considering he regularly fights DK, he's probably about as strong as him. The same DK able to (somehow) punch the moon out of orbit. So he's pretty strong.

Also, "math math shockwave in the air".

Or you know:
Toph: *just crushes Crocodile's sand body with her mind*

And then Crocodile immediately reforms none the worse for wear once Toph takes her thoughts off crushing him.

 

[Deleted member]

Hmm...

At least strong enough to lift cannonballs.

Any further than that requires power scaling and extrapolation, considering he regularly fights DK, he's probably about as strong as him. The same DK able to (somehow) punch the moon out of orbit. So he's pretty strong.

Also, "math math shockwave in the air".

And then Crocodile immediately reforms none the worse for wear once Toph takes her thoughts off crushing him.

I mean, if your opponent can quite literaply just control your body, there ain't much you can do.
It's like Magneto vs. Wolverine.

 

[Chrono.]

Oh hey, trending gamer nominees.

Pokimane's the one I've seen/like the most, but it's 100% gonna be Ninja.

Your nominees for Content Creator of the Year #TheGameAwards: @ninja @pokimanelol @drlupo @tsm_myth and @willrex pic.twitter.com/HPCcC8gx6S

— The Game Awards (@thegameawards) November 13, 2018

But this award seems to be cursed so get ready for the Ninja Racial Slur Scandal next year.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh hey, trending gamer nominees.

Pokimane's the one I've seen/like the most, but it's 100% gonna be Ninja.

Your nominees for Content Creator of the Year #TheGameAwards: @ninja @pokimanelol @drlupo @tsm_myth and @willrex pic.twitter.com/HPCcC8gx6S

— The Game Awards (@thegameawards) November 13, 2018

But this award seems to be cursed so get ready for the Ninja Racial Slur Scandal next year.

"Ninja said the N-Word."
"I mean, yeah, that's his name."
"Wha-- no, not that, you idiot."

 

[KMDP]

I mean, if your opponent can quite literaply just control your body, there ain't much you can do.
It's like Magneto vs. Wolverine.

Basically, Toph vs Crocodile would be a long stalemate.

Toph can't do anything to Crocodile, but Crocodile can't do anything to Toph in turn.

However, One Piece characters tend to have ridiculous amounts of stamina, and Crocodile is a very patient man. All he needs to do is wait until Toph tires (mentally or physically), then poison her in her sleep.

Not the most honorable way of winning, but perfectly in character for Croc.

 

[Deleted member]

Basically, Toph vs Crocodile would be a long stalemate.

Toph can't do anything to Crocodile, but Crocodile can't do anything to Toph in turn.

However, One Piece characters tend to have ridiculous amounts of stamina, and Crocodile is a very patient man. All he needs to do is wait until Toph tires (mentally or physically), then poison her in her sleep.

Not the most honorable way of winning, but perfectly in character for Croc.

What's his weakness then? I mean, they must have defeated him somehow.
Is it water? That would make sense and if it is, Toph can just mudbend.

 

[Deleted member]

I looked at the nominees for Game of the Year.

• Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
• Celeste
• God of War
• Marvel’s Spider-Man
• Monster Hunter: World
• Red Dead Redemption 2

The only one that surprised me was Celeste.

Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/13/the-game-awards-2018-nominations-announced
https://thegameawards.com/awards/