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[KingofPhantoms]

I'm just gonna ask this from you all out of curiosity and for some fun, before I turn in for the night: what's your favorite song from your favorite video game?

You can choose no more than three if you have a hard time picking just one.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The Riddler you say...I think I got it.

I was referencing a mafia game but good guess.

Not it though. The games also aren't Batman games.

 

[Deleted member]

That was actually a reference to Red being the Riddler.

The actual games haven't all been chosen yet, but none of them will be Pokemon.

Something to do with a riddler, hmmm..

I...I think I'm gonna go see what the real life people are doing...

Wait, do not go! I am sorry!

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

I assume provinces have a lot more autonomy to determine stuff like that, Quebec in particular

I don't really know how it works in the US but here every province has its own government with autonomy on some stuff such as legal drinking age (also education, healthcare system and other important stuff).

Edit: Canadian federal gov. is more for nationwide stuff, like the dollar, army, international relations etc.

 

[redfeatherraven]

That was actually a reference to Red being the Riddler.

Ah.

It's Hey Me, Pikachu.

 

[Zinith]

I don't really know how it works in the US but here every province has its own government with autonomy on some stuff such as legal drinking age (also education, healthcare system and other important stuff).

Pretty much the same way in the US.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey you, Pikachu! is actually a great game. Don't @ me.

Very adorable experience that lets you have wholesome moments with Pokemon and you get to cook stir fry!

 

[Deleted member]

Pretty much the same way in the US.

US has more money but the Canadians are happier.

 

[Knight Dude]

I was referencing a mafia game but good guess.

Not it though. The games also aren't Batman games.

Well, if it ain't GTA, Mafia, Sleeping Dogs, Yakuza or L.A Noire, I wouldn't know.

I don't even know if L.A Noire has the mafia(or some counterpart) in it. It looks like it would though.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Well, if it ain't GTA, Mafia, Sleeping Dogs, Yakuza or L.A Noire, I wouldn't know.

I don't even know if L.A Noire has the mafia(or some counterpart) in it. It looks like it would though.

Oh you silly be.

I meant our old forum mafia games. Not a video game.

 

[Deleted member]

Canada gets free healthcare while I die of injuries and sickness here in the US.

Canada wins tbh.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hey, guys. Sorry for what happened. I just wanted to give you a brief grasp of the situation related to me.

I deleted the post that posted a link to Reddit about Zipzo's actions. What the issue is that instead of bringing any attention to the Moderation that this user could be a problem, it immediately told members of the site he was a problem. I will outright say that Zipzo told me he got harassed. That means that people were rude to him(not that bigotry is justified. It is not) about it but it appears to have gotten worse. There may have been a raid too.

As you're all aware, I enforce the site rules as a hardass. Maybe sometimes too hard. But raiding, harassment, bigotry? None of this is tolerable. So what I did was trying to clean up a giant mess. My previous posts were to be respectful to the user due to them being a member of this site. It should go without saying that even if a member says something poor, you must be respectful towards them no matter what. If they say something illegal/against the rules, the only correct route beyond reporting is to call them out in a constructive manner. However, being that can lead to flame wars, a report is still better. I will note I probably spent at least 2-3 hours dealing with this.

Finally, I am fine. The situation did not affect me mentally whatsoever. I'm aware of the guy being a transphobe. And that is terrible. As a member of this site, I had to defend the fact he is to be treated civilly no matter what. It doesn't matter what anyone says, you must be civil. So again, reporting is the only real way to go at this point. I hope you can all understand why I did what I did.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey you, Pikachu! is actually a great game. Don't @ me.

Very adorable experience that lets you have wholesome moments with Pokemon and you get to cook stir fry!

Hey You Pikachu has pretty bad controls and there is too much time where you do nothing though.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Hey you, Pikachu! is actually a great game. Don't @ me.

@Kokonoe

Imma @ the hell outta you.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey You Pikachu has pretty bad controls and there is too much time where you do nothing though.

It's not a typical game in that regard. You have to think of it more as a viewing experience than a traditional game.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, guys. Sorry for what happened. I just wanted to give you a brief grasp of the situation related to me.

I deleted the post that posted a link to Reddit about Zipzo's actions. What the issue is that instead of bringing any attention to the Moderation that this user could be a problem, it immediately told members of the site he was a problem. I will outright say that Zipzo told me he got harassed. That means that people were rude to him(not that bigotry is justified. It is not) about it but it appears to have gotten worse. There may have been a raid too.

As you're all aware, I enforce the site rules as a hardass. Maybe sometimes too hard. But raiding, harassment, bigotry? None of this is tolerable. So what I did was trying to clean up a giant mess. My previous posts were to be respectful to the user due to them being a member of this site. It should go without saying that even if a member says something poor, you must be respectful towards them no matter what. If they say something illegal/against the rules, the only correct route beyond reporting is to call them out in a constructive manner. However, being that can lead to flame wars, a report is still better. I will note I probably spent at least 2-3 hours dealing with this.

Finally, I am fine. The situation did not affect me mentally whatsoever. I'm aware of the guy being a transphobe. And that is terrible. As a member of this site, I had to defend the fact he is to be treated civilly no matter what. It doesn't matter what anyone says, you must be civil. So again, reporting is the only real way to go at this point. I hope you can all understand why I did what I did.

You are a legendary moderator! You have my full respect.

 

[Starbound]

Canada gets free healthcare while I die of injuries and sickness here in the US.

Canada wins tbh.

Hi my Smash Ultimate copy will run me $85

I will give you my heathcare in exchange.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

US has more money but the Canadians are happier.

Free healthcare and cheaper education is the secret ah and also poutine...

 

[Knight Dude]

Hey, guys. Sorry for what happened. I just wanted to give you a brief grasp of the situation related to me.

I deleted the post that posted a link to Reddit about Zipzo's actions. What the issue is that instead of bringing any attention to the Moderation that this user could be a problem, it immediately told members of the site he was a problem. I will outright say that Zipzo told me he got harassed. That means that people were rude to him(not that bigotry is justified. It is not) about it but it appears to have gotten worse. There may have been a raid too.

As you're all aware, I enforce the site rules as a hardass. Maybe sometimes too hard. But raiding, harassment, bigotry? None of this is tolerable. So what I did was trying to clean up a giant mess. My previous posts were to be respectful to the user due to them being a member of this site. It should go without saying that even if a member says something poor, you must be respectful towards them no matter what. If they say something illegal/against the rules, the only correct route beyond reporting is to call them out in a constructive manner. However, being that can lead to flame wars, a report is still better. I will note I probably spent at least 2-3 hours dealing with this.

Finally, I am fine. The situation did not affect me mentally whatsoever. I'm aware of the guy being a transphobe. And that is terrible. As a member of this site, I had to defend the fact he is to be treated civilly no matter what. It doesn't matter what anyone says, you must be civil. So again, reporting is the only real way to go at this point. I hope you can all understand why I did what I did.

You did what you had to do as a mod on the site. A shame all this drama crept up, regardless of the guy being an asshole. And I can't agree on dog-piling on anyone online, no matter what their views are. It only serves to make people more heated than they already are.


That said I WILL say **** ResetERA. They are the LAST group of people that should be ****ting on mods doing their job, let even being decent people.

I needed to get that out.

Oh you silly be.

I meant our old forum mafia games. Not a video game.

Well, since I never got involved in those, I wouldn't know.

 

[Deleted member]

Hi my Smash Ultimate copy will run me $85

I will give you my heathcare in exchange.

It's a deal then!

@Kokonoe

Imma @ the hell outta you.

It's great, man. It gives me the feels, and is very cute. Not only do I like it, it was one of my favorite games on the N64.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, guys. Sorry for what happened. I just wanted to give you a brief grasp of the situation related to me.

I deleted the post that posted a link to Reddit about Zipzo's actions. What the issue is that instead of bringing any attention to the Moderation that this user could be a problem, it immediately told members of the site he was a problem. I will outright say that Zipzo told me he got harassed. That means that people were rude to him(not that bigotry is justified. It is not) about it but it appears to have gotten worse. There may have been a raid too.

As you're all aware, I enforce the site rules as a hardass. Maybe sometimes too hard. But raiding, harassment, bigotry? None of this is tolerable. So what I did was trying to clean up a giant mess. My previous posts were to be respectful to the user due to them being a member of this site. It should go without saying that even if a member says something poor, you must be respectful towards them no matter what. If they say something illegal/against the rules, the only correct route beyond reporting is to call them out in a constructive manner. However, being that can lead to flame wars, a report is still better. I will note I probably spent at least 2-3 hours dealing with this.

Finally, I am fine. The situation did not affect me mentally whatsoever. I'm aware of the guy being a transphobe. And that is terrible. As a member of this site, I had to defend the fact he is to be treated civilly no matter what. It doesn't matter what anyone says, you must be civil. So again, reporting is the only real way to go at this point. I hope you can all understand why I did what I did.

Tbh Irene, the issue here is when you say two wrongs don't make a right (in the post in the other thread) that's actually equating the two "wrongs" in the scenario as equal because the thing is they aren't the same and don't deserve the same kind of action.

My advice is that perhaps Smash Boards should consider off site behavior if it is actually truly terrible, even if they can't moderate it there they can see someone is a vile human being elsewhere and come to a decision based on that. I feel the concept of being unable to moderate off site is something forums need to work on to be better equipped in modern times.

I also disagree that certain people need to protected if their views actually hurt the protection of others being themselves and being happy.

 

[Mythra]

Friend reached 12% pity rate in the Lego Banner and got a -HP+Spd Nephenee.
I almost **** myself when he told me (jokingly) he sent her home.

 

[Androobie]

Jesus Christ, by the amount of like notifications I’m getting for posts before the Ultimate thread got locked, I might as well set my phone on vibrate and stick it my pants.

 

[Will]

I think it's about time I catched some Zs.

I'm just gonna ask this from you all out of curiosity and for some fun, before I turn in for the night: what's your favorite song from your favorite video game?

wow i'm so ****ing tired i couldnt understand the question. i thought it meant my favorite song period.
Credits is easily the best theme from WL3.

 

[Zinith]

I'm just gonna ask this from you all out of curiosity and for some fun, before I turn in for the night: what's your favorite song from your favorite video game?

You can choose no more than three if you have a hard time picking just one.

Yes, my favorite game of all time is not a Yoshi game

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

I'm just gonna ask this from you all out of curiosity and for some fun, before I turn in for the night: what's your favorite song from your favorite video game?

You can choose no more than three if you have a hard time picking just one.

Edit: Btw for FF6 fans, balance and ruins is an awesome musical project. Tons of remixes of the ost by different artists.

 

[Knight Dude]

Speaking of downloadable games, If I ever get a better computer, I'll try and get Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death. Heard it was an okay DMC/GOW style game.

Jesus Christ, by the amount of like notifications I’m getting for posts before the Ultimate thread got locked, I might as well set my phone on vibrate and stick it my pants.

I think I posted the Trunks image too soon.

 

[Will]

Jesus Christ, by the amount of like notifications I’m getting for posts before the Ultimate thread got locked, I might as well set my phone on vibrate and stick it my pants.

Tonight is a wild ride, isn't it?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Tbh Irene, the issue here is when you say two wrongs don't make a right (in the post in the other thread) that's actually equating the two "wrongs" in the scenario as equal because the thing is they aren't the same and don't deserve the same kind of action.

My advice is that perhaps Smash Boards should consider off site behavior if it is actually truly terrible, even if they can't moderate it there they can see someone is a vile human being elsewhere and come to a decision based on that. I feel the concept of being unable to moderate off site is something forums need to work on to be better equipped in modern times.

I also disagree that certain people need to protected if their views actually hurt the protection of others being themselves and being happy.

Nobody should be harassed. Period. That is not justifiable.

The point is by the rules here, he did nothing wrong beyond troll people at best. And we are making sure, if that is fully the case, he gets what he deserves. For that.

Besides, we are keeping an eye on him due to this information. What the other user did was basically say "Hey, harass this guy!". There is no way we were going to let that slide as is. That's not right. It had nothing to do with them being "equally wrong". Because they're not being measured. They're both wrong, against the rules, and will not tolerated. The fact we can't throw out people here for their actions offsite makes sense. What they do somewhere else is not our actual business. It doesn't mean we'll like it. If we start enforcing something stupid they did somewhere else, we'd cause more damage that needed. We might ban people who were once bigots but are legitimately trying to get better. This is why we enforce it when it comes here. That way we can fix the problem and possibly make others see the right way of things. The reality is, harassing bigots does little in itself. Hate breeds more hate. Trying to convince the few that don't understand why it's a problem that it is a problem in the end does a lot more useful stuff. A very important thing about creating a better life for everyone is teaching people the right way of things and to respect others. It'd be hypocritical to harass others instead of trying to help them. Of course, some cannot be helped and they get permabanned for that. Because they are disruptive/flaming/harassing others. Essentially, like with all warnings/infractions, our goal is to help people. Not hurt them.

Just because we don't justify bigotry doesn't mean we can't save some people from their own bad thoughts and try to improve the person into becoming better. That's an admirable goal(not always feasible, of course). We don't justify a lot of things. But we also try to help people so they'll follow the rules and become better too. If that style help, then it should be used. Because shouldn't helping people become better overall better than hating others for being scummy? I thought the overall point was to erase hatred. You can't do that by being hateful yourself. I hope you understand why my goal is to help people improve first and foremost, even if they are scummy(though that could be just a pure case of "at first" and they can be better). Let me note I've met some former bigots. The key term being former. Though they have gotten themselves banned for other reasons, it means that they were able to become better people and not be bigots any longer. Let's not forget that bigotry isn't some inherent thing. It's taught to others. The only way to erase it is to people how to be, well, not bigoted. That should explain my position well.

 

[Z25]

And out of nowhere, a Dragalia Lost direct!

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I have it pre-ordered but I wasn't able to pick it up today, once I get it I'll gladly help you go through some of the lower level quests.

I forgot this existed but it had peeled my interest.

With all these directs, I’m betting it’s to clear way for a full direct around the time of the Tokyo game show next month.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Hi my Smash Ultimate copy will run me $85

I will give you my heathcare in exchange.

You're lucky.

It'll cost me $92 with taxes.

 

[redfeatherraven]

It's great, man. It gives me the feels, and is very cute. Not only do I like it, it was one of my favorite games on the N64.

Just an @ for @ sake. Rebel without a cause, etc.

I always wanted to get it back in the day but never did.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

poutine

Man of culture, right there.

 

[Deleted member]

I just want to say that anyone who goes against LGBT+ are very bad people.
I welcome LGBT+ people.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Tbh Irene, the issue here is when you say two wrongs don't make a right (in the post in the other thread) that's actually equating the two "wrongs" in the scenario as equal because the thing is they aren't the same and don't deserve the same kind of action.

My advice is that perhaps Smash Boards should consider off site behavior if it is actually truly terrible, even if they can't moderate it there they can see someone is a vile human being elsewhere and come to a decision based on that. I feel the concept of being unable to moderate off site is something forums need to work on to be better equipped in modern times.

I also disagree that certain people need to protected if their views actually hurt the protection of others being themselves and being happy.

The two actions aren't equated.

They both just crossed a line.

A line of several actions we will not tolerate.

 

[Deleted member]

Nobody should be harassed. Period. That is not justifiable.

The point is by the rules here, he did nothing wrong beyond troll people at best. And we are making sure, if that is fully the case, he gets what he deserves. For that.

Besides, we are keeping an eye on him due to this information. What the other user did was basically say "Hey, harass this guy!". There is no way we were going to let that slide as is. That's not right. It had nothing to do with them being "equally wrong". Because they're not being measured. They're both wrong, against the rules, and will not tolerated. The fact we can't throw out people here for their actions offsite makes sense. What they do somewhere else is not our actual business. It doesn't mean we'll like it. If we start enforcing something stupid they did somewhere else, we'd cause more damage that needed. We might ban people who were once bigots but are legitimately trying to get better. This is why we enforce it when it comes here. That way we can fix the problem and possibly make others see the right way of things. The reality is, harassing bigots does little in itself. Hate breeds more hate. Trying to convince the few that don't understand why it's a problem that it is a problem in the end does a lot more useful stuff. A very important thing about creating a better life for everyone is teaching people the right way of things and to respect others. It'd be hypocritical to harass others instead of trying to help them. Of course, some cannot be helped and they get permabanned for that. Because they are disruptive/flaming/harassing others. Essentially, like with all warnings/infractions, our goal is to help people. Not hurt them.

Just because we don't justify bigotry doesn't mean we can't save some people from their own bad thoughts and try to improve the person into becoming better. That's an admirable goal(not always feasible, of course). We don't justify a lot of things. But we also try to help people so they'll follow the rules and become better too. If that style help, then it should be used. Because shouldn't helping people become better overall better than hating others for being scummy? I thought the overall point was to erase hatred. You can't do that by being hateful yourself. I hope you understand why my goal is to help people improve first and foremost, even if they are scummy(though that could be just a pure case of "at first" and they can be better). Let me note I've met some former bigots. The key term being former. Though they have gotten themselves banned for other reasons, it means that they were able to become better people and not be bigots any longer. Let's not forget that bigotry isn't some inherent thing. It's taught to others. The only way to erase it is to people how to be, well, not bigoted. That should explain my position well.

I'm sorry but that to me is you and this site's biggest flaw in terms of moderation. You are so concerned about the "rules" that you aren't thinking outside of them and it limits things that aren't covered by them and stuff like today happens. Someone bringing up him posting in a Gamergate reddit (which the OP was about him talking about reddit to begin with) is not harassment. People brought to light something that needed to be said. Was it out of nowhere? Yes, it was. But I'd rather not be taking part in genuine discussion with people who hate my friends, and well, your very existence.

As someone who grew up in a home full of hateful views I am aware that influence of others is the root of hate, but I don't see how allowing someone like that to be here improves them when that person can very well never discuss that view here, but here they are talking with fellow trans men and women on this site and people thinking they are just talking to a good person, but in reality, that other person wishes they didn't exist. It's a sick thought to me.

I don't agree with the people harassing him early on in the thread (as you can see me defending him until I found out this news) from people just wanting Smash information here and now like entitled children.

And as for as hate breeding hate, his actions are the hateful ones and calling stuff like that out is the only way it stops or actions being done. Once again, if you go entirely by the book you can have a site full of people with hateful views never mentioning them but they get to go on their daily lives thinking it's ok. If someone is very deliberately vile off site that should be considered.

Mentioning someone posting in Gamergate's HQ is not harassment, it's information on a culture that bathes in the harassment of women and LGBT.

 

[Silvera]

I'm just gonna ask this from you all out of curiosity and for some fun, before I turn in for the night: what's your favorite song from your favorite video game?

You can choose no more than three if you have a hard time picking just one.

Easily the best song in video game history:

 

[Swamp Sensei]

And as for as hate breeding hate, his actions are the hateful ones and calling stuff like that out is the only way it stops or actions being done.

My issues with this attitude is that stuff like this reinforces his ideals instead of weakens it. And it didn't stop with just a calling out. If it did, we wouldn't be here.

The man got doxed and threatened. Which is never excusable.

It just made him scared.

This is only going to make the idea that the "SJW ruin everything" a stronger one in his mind, because its backed up by even more experience.

but I don't see how allowing someone like that to be here improves them

That's the thing Koko, that's exactly how we solve this problem. Enough interaction with those people will cause familarity in his mind. After enough of that, attitudes soften and people start to change their views.

Being told its bad won't stop them at this point, its something they need to figure out through experience. Positive experience.

Once again, if you go entirely by the book you can have a site full of people with hateful views never mentioning them but they get to go on their daily lives thinking it's ok.

We can't control thoughts. Only actions. We can never read what's on a person's mind.

People are going to be hateful every which way no matter what. Just look at the way this thread treats Shiny.

We can't just control a forum's userbase. We simply can't. ResetERA tries to and it doesn't even work. We can deal with stuff when it happens but there's no way to screen someone's mind.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It's not so much about the rules that the idea anyone should be harassed... is a load of ****. Like, seriously, no. They're all bad. There's nothing to equate. Bigotry is bad. Harassment is bad. Doxxing is bad. Flaming is bad. Trolling is bad. I mean, seriously, there's just no justification for any of these.

Yes, we don't take care of offsite stuff. But there's more to it than the "we don't care". We do care, in that we keep an eye on them upon learning these actions. It's important to remember that we can only enforce what happens within our jurisdiction. That's something that's beyond key.

And yes, mentioning what somebody did on another site is 100% harassment. There's no reason to do it. All you do is create a situation to make a user a giant target for others. And you know what happens? A scumbag, as much as they are, get harassed severely and flamed severely(and trolled too, or one of those three). This is beyond unacceptable and cannot be justified in any way. There is a purpose in bring it up to the Staff of a user's offsite actions. And that's so we can keep a close eye on them to see if they cause trouble. We also may not know the whole context, and what happened on another site could be a very long time ago. People change all the time. People do get educated on why they're wrong. What happened in the past only affects here if it happened here in the first place. There's a reason why our infractions systems builds higher, from warning(0 points) to more. Because it's for repeated actions. If they've never done it here, then we can't actually do anything about them existing here. Opinions aren't good enough. When you let offsite stuff give you the ability to enforce the rules(instead of onsite only), that means you can ban anyone for anything they do offsite. Oh, they're a porn artist? Welp, they did it offsite. Guess they should be banned here. That can be 100% applied to every rule and why it is bad to ban based upon offsite stuff only. And that's one of our few "auto-ban things" we have. What happens offsite is not our business. We make it our business when it's here. Cause it actually relates to the site. You know what's also our business? People raiding the site. People using this site to dox others. Yeah, it's a big deal and we will stop it hard. We will stop bigotry hard when it comes here too. But if it doesn't come here, we have no power to enforce it. How on earth can we? It's nothing to do with us. I get that people feel uncomfortable, but that's why you bring it up to us so we keep an eye and enforce it the second they do anything bigoted.

The thing is, it's pointless to think of others as bad people here. It creates pointless drama and causes tons of turmoil while not improving the site at all. Nobody will ever justify bigotry. The fact bigots exist here does not mean we can them. What happens if they were a former bigot? Welp, apparently them changing for the better is irrelevant because of offsite stuff that happened some time ago. What happens if they're trying to get better? Guess they can't because people are so filled with hate instead of understanding what's actually going on. This is why harassment towards members is against the rules too. Because it's 100% malicious in every way. Hating on people is malicious. There's no excuse for it. Yeah, some are scumbags. Instead of hating, why not actually report their behavior and let us handle the behavior itself? I get the feeling uncomfortable, but how can you feel uncomfortable when you don't see the actions here? You can be weary of the user and avoid them. Hell, ignore them if you aren't sure they had changed. We understand that. But we can't justified inappropriate behavior towards any member of this site. Everybody is a human being here and will be treated as such. Even those who are getting permabanned for bigotry are still treated like a human being too. We professionally do it. And there's a reason for that. By not acting with hatred, we make the world better. The site's biggest important thing is making the place better for everyone. We cannot do that with people trying to spread hatred. Harassment is hatred, frankly. So think about it, what do you hope to accomplish at that point? Are you really making this place better? No. You're just making someone's life miserable. That's still wrong. Instead, try to help people improve. Those that can't will overall be banned from this site depending the situation(bigots and harassers will be banned indefinitely at some point).

 

[Deleted member]

My issues with this attitude is that stuff like this reinforces his ideals instead of weakens it. And it didn't stop with just a calling out. If it did, we wouldn't be here.

The man got doxed and threatened. Which is never excusable.

It just made him scared.

This is only going to make the idea that the "SJW ruin everything" a stronger one in his mind, because its backed up by even more experience.

That's the thing Koko, that's exactly how we solve this problem. Enough interaction with those people will cause familarity in his mind. After enough of that, attitudes soften and people start to change their views.

Being told its bad won't stop them at this point, its something they need to figure out through experience. Positive experience.
We can't control thoughts. Only actions. We can never read what's on a person's mind.

People are going to be hateful every which way no matter what. Just look at the way this thread treats Shiny.

We can't just control a forum's userbase. We simply can't. ResetERA tries to and it doesn't even work. We can deal with stuff when it happens but there's no way to screen someone's mind.

If he was doxxed, what does that have to do with calling out bigotry? Not only that, people were harassing him MAINLY because he was found out to be a fake leaker.

And no, that is not how that is fixed. Because if those people aren't correcting or calling them out when that view finally happens, they go on continue being that person. A lot of things go unchanged in this world because nothing is said about them, but in recent years a lot is changing for the better because people are being held responsible for their actions and this how someone truly learns, when they are explicitly taught that it isn't okay, and why it is not.

Okay? That doesn't mean we just give up.

It's kind of funny you say "we can't control a forum's userbase" but that is what just happened today.

The mods deleted all the posts from people talking about this development and told us all to stop talking about it. And no, it's not about controlling people, it's about not letting people who want people on this site to die for just being who they are. It's very clear cut here.

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I can't even find any evidence that he was doxxed. Where it this claim coming from?